muppy Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 3 hours ago, LabattBlue said: Pegula doesn’t know what he wants. Executives are coming and going under his leadership, scandals(Brandon), PSE created, PSE dissolved, etc… Pegula is clueless, and if it wasn’t for Josh Allen, the Bills would probably be stuck in neutral much like his beloved Sabres. oh SNAP. This one hurts. Especially regarding the sabres. Being new to a teams fan base has its advantages. They may or likely may not make the playoffs but the games themselves lately have been exciting and fun. I am optimistic about the team. No jumping off any bandwagons now. Regarding the upper management of 2 sports franchises, to me a novice it does sound like a Huge Job. He better trust and have a great support staff. That sounds like a lot for one guy to me, I dunno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, Westside said: He looks creepy They picked a really poor picture for his introduction article. Nothing in PSE seems to have any vetting process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 So if this guy was Russ Brandon's understudy...how long until we can expect our first inappropriate scandal with an intern? I'm giving it 6 months 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Just don’t screw everything up! And don’t stick your nose where it doesn’t belong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 7 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: So if this guy was Russ Brandon's understudy...how long until we can expect our first inappropriate scandal with an intern? I'm giving it 6 months FWIW, he’s a different personality. There were others in that regime that had similar “transgressions.” This dude is a standup guy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 5 hours ago, Nephilim17 said: Is there any successful precedent for one guy being COO of two separate pro sports teams? I don't follow other sports like football and have not idea but it seems odd to me. Why not get a football guy to focus on football? what exactly do you believe the role entails? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 we seem to go through executives like we do coordinators Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 20 minutes ago, NoSaint said: what exactly do you believe the role entails? Frankly, I don't know what a Chief Operating Officer does. Many people here are upset I asked a simple question and many have said it has nothing to do with football so my comment about getting a "football" guy is totally wrong. Mea culpa. I didn't know what the role entailed but I took a crazy leap of faith that if you're a Chief any kind of Officer that it's likely that a good knowledge of the industry you're in is a good thing. I thought that industry is football and not running a stadium or whatever it is. I'm still confused. I didn't know you could do this job well and not know football . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Oversee the business side only. Sabres really need a President IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Super Fan Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Before someone asks, yes I know Pete Guelli. Yes, he is close with Russ Brandon. Yes, he’s a very smart and experienced sports business executive with local ties. He has years of sponsorship experience. It’s a shrewd hire prior to moving into the new stadium. There are lots of examples. His role has ZERO to do with football or hockey. He is in charge of the business of sports. He sells tickets, advertising, etc… If Pete Guelli is very smart he wouldn’t mention he is close friends with Russ Brandon. Russ Brandon the driving force behind the Buffalo Bills Toronto Series and the Bills playoff drought isn’t exactly popular in Western New York. This is another nothing move Pete Guelli will just pass through the night and take some of Terry Pegula’s money before he is let go. But Terry Pegula can’t afford a Buffalo USL Super League soccer team for Buffalo in the new Bills stadium. When is Western New York going to get the money Terry Pegula wasted on fired executives would have bought and paid for a Buffalo expansion USL Super League soccer team in the new Bills stadium. Pegula Sports and Entertainment waste money on executives and basically nonsense that cost the Bills money. That doesn’t bring in new money and jobs for Western New York. Ditto Key Bank Center even when it’s full renovated it will still empty I would bet the house on that unless Terry Pegula sells the Sabres to someone else. The Buffalo Sabres and Buffalo Bandits were the Knox Brothers legacy to Buffalo. The Buffalo Bills were Ralph Wilson legacy to Buffalo. What has Terry Pegula ever really created that was a business success and cemented his ownership legacy in Buffalo? The Buffalo Bisons are Bob Rich Family legacy to Buffalo. I am waiting? I will be waiting a long time because Terry Pegula isn’t capable of really creating anything long lasting. He has plenty of opportunity he controls both our major sports houses he isn’t capable of creating anything lasting or new for Western New York. We are building a World Class Soccer Stadium with no soccer team in it. But it’s Terry Pegula so that explains everything. If Terry Pegula doesn’t win a Super Bowl or Stanley Cup he will be like Tom Golisano just passing through a period of time in Buffalo paddling his fortune. For some Buffalo fans that is good enough I guess carry on in my opinion. Go Bills! Go Sabres! Let’s Go Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: FWIW, he’s a different personality. There were others in that regime that had similar “transgressions.” This dude is a standup guy. In all seriousness, that is good to hear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 45 minutes ago, Buffalo Super Fan said: If Pete Guelli is very smart he wouldn’t mention he is close friends with Russ Brandon. Russ Brandon the driving force behind the Buffalo Bills Toronto Series and the Bills playoff drought isn’t exactly popular in Western New York. This is another nothing move Pete Guelli will just pass through the night and take some of Terry Pegula’s money before he is let go. But Terry Pegula can’t afford a Buffalo USL Super League soccer team for Buffalo in the new Bills stadium. When is Western New York going to get the money Terry Pegula wasted on fired executives would have bought and paid for a Buffalo expansion USL Super League soccer team in the new Bills stadium. Pegula Sports and Entertainment waste money on executives and basically nonsense that cost the Bills money. That doesn’t bring in new money and jobs for Western New York. Ditto Key Bank Center even when it’s full renovated it will still empty I would bet the house on that unless Terry Pegula sells the Sabres to someone else. The Buffalo Sabres and Buffalo Bandits were the Knox Brothers legacy to Buffalo. The Buffalo Bills were Ralph Wilson legacy to Buffalo. What has Terry Pegula ever really created that was a business success and cemented his ownership legacy in Buffalo? The Buffalo Bisons are Bob Rich Family legacy to Buffalo. I am waiting? I will be waiting a long time because Terry Pegula isn’t capable of really creating anything long lasting. He has plenty of opportunity he controls both our major sports houses he isn’t capable of creating anything lasting or new for Western New York. We are building a World Class Soccer Stadium with no soccer team in it. But it’s Terry Pegula so that explains everything. If Terry Pegula doesn’t win a Super Bowl or Stanley Cup he will be like Tom Golisano just passing through a period of time in Buffalo paddling his fortune. For some Buffalo fans that is good enough I guess carry on in my opinion. Go Bills! Go Sabres! Let’s Go Buffalo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 2 hours ago, Nephilim17 said: Frankly, I don't know what a Chief Operating Officer does. Many people here are upset I asked a simple question and many have said it has nothing to do with football so my comment about getting a "football" guy is totally wrong. Mea culpa. I didn't know what the role entailed but I took a crazy leap of faith that if you're a Chief any kind of Officer that it's likely that a good knowledge of the industry you're in is a good thing. I thought that industry is football and not running a stadium or whatever it is. I'm still confused. I didn't know you could do this job well and not know football . really stressed you out to have like 3 low key corrections head your way, eh? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 17 hours ago, JimS said: I went to High School with him, he was a good guy. Name dropper - over achiever !! 😂 😜 😆 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 12 hours ago, QCity said: Oversee the business side only. Sabres really need a President IMO. They really don't. Sabres are on the right track. It just takes longer in hockey when you are developing your own players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimS Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 15 hours ago, Maynard said: I don’t know who this is, but he has a nice hairline. It was much better in 1983. 🙂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Great, another Rochester executive like Brandon. That worked out so well we didn't see playoffs for what seemed like 50 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) 18 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Before someone asks, yes I know Pete Guelli. Yes, he is close with Russ Brandon. Yes, he’s a very smart and experienced sports business executive with local ties. He has years of sponsorship experience. It’s a shrewd hire prior to moving into the new stadium. There are lots of examples. His role has ZERO to do with football or hockey. He is in charge of the business of sports. He sells tickets, advertising, etc… You are certainly much more plugged in than everybody. So i will trust your judgement on the whole thing. But I think some of the reflex is that historically terrible Buffalo Sabres owner said that the new guy "turned around""...checks notes...The Charlotte Hornet's. Another bad team. It is admitedly pedantic for me an others to take shots. But also Pegula has to read the room he is speaking to. What bad phrasing. I don't doubt that Pete is well respected in multiple sports league circles. But saying anybody "turned around" a Jordan brand from the business side gives me pause. Especially one whose major revenue stream is the state of North Carolina. He is the states golden child; he has been heavily invested in that community for a very long time, and continues to invest in Charlotte even after the sale. I don't think there is a comparable in the big 4 sports to Michael Jordan buying the Charlotte Bobcats/Hornet's. I don't believe that was a heavy lift. Working for adn being successful Michael Jordan as part of the larger Jordan and NBA brand is a major feather in anybodies cap. But turned around..... 3 hours ago, JimS said: It was much better in 1983. 🙂 Is it just me or does he look kind of like Bob Weir if Bobby had made a number of different decisions and started hitting those TRX bands 60 years earlier. Edited March 20 by Mango 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mango said: You are certainly much more plugged in than everybody. So i will trust your judgement on the whole thing. But I think some of the reflex is that historically terrible Buffalo Sabres owner said that the new guy "turned around""...checks notes...The Charlotte Hornet's. Another bad team. It is admitedly pedantic for me an others to take shots. But also Pegula has to read the room he is speaking to. What bad phrasing. I don't doubt that Pete is well respected in multiple sports league circles. But saying anybody "turned around" a Jordan brand from the business side gives me pause. Especially one whose major revenue stream is the state of North Carolina. He is the states golden child; he has been heavily invested in that community for a very long time, and continues to invest in Charlotte even after the sale. I don't think there is a comparable in the big 4 sports to Michael Jordan buying the Charlotte Bobcats/Hornet's. I don't believe that was a heavy lift. Working for adn being successful Michael Jordan as part of the larger Jordan and NBA brand is a major feather in anybodies cap. But turned around..... Is it just me or does he look kind of like Bob Weir if Bobby had made a number of different decisions and started hitting those TRX bands 60 years earlier. One of the problems that people have when they look at sports business executives, is that they try to associate their success with on field / court success. I’m not saying that you are doing that here but others are in the thread. I know a good bit about the Charlotte NBA situation. The Hornets left on TERRIBLE terms with lawsuits between the owners. They were an AMAZING franchise until the late ‘90’s. The Bobcats situation was pretty much a disaster. Jordan coming in was not really the savior that people thought. He was not a very good owner on the court or on the business side. That’s hard for me to say because he’s my favorite athlete ever. The franchise turned up under Guelli’s leadership and by engaging NBA best practices. As stated earlier, the NBA has always been the best at the business of sports. When he was with the Bills they were like middle of the league in sponsor revenue I think. That’s impossible with an old stadium and garbage teams. That’s a credit to the creativity and staff that he had built. This is a very good hire for the Bills & Sabres. His experience dwarfs that of the last few people “running the show.” Edited March 20 by Kirby Jackson 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Aurelius Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 23 hours ago, Dillenger4 said: Guelli Guelli... tastes great. Guelli Guelli.. can't wait. who???? Only us REALLY old guys know the reference 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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