HankBulloughMellencamp Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 11 hours ago, boyst said: I'm all for drafting one in the 3rd or 4th. In a draft like this where there isn't a major market for QBs or hot commodity potentials we can take a flier and find a 4 year backup for Josh. I'd argue we need those type of picks for many other positions, not for potential backups who we don't even want to have to use for 4 years. Maybe take the flier if someone falls closer to Brock Purdy/Mr. Irrelevant territory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Just now, HankBulloughMellencamp said: I'd argue we need those type of picks for many other positions, not for potential backups who we don't even want to have to use for 4 years. Maybe take the flier if someone falls closer to Brock Purdy/Mr. Irrelevant territory. Brock Purdy is so interesting to me. In 5 years what we will be seeing from him. I think it is worth it to get a 3rd or 4th round simply to develop them and recover a comp pick while having a backup QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Is Sam Darnold under contract with 49ers next year. If not, then he would be a decent backup. I know Allen would like that as he and Darnold are good friends. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 12 hours ago, stuvian said: apparently he saved someone's life once by doing Heimlich or CPR he killed Kaepernick's career twice though...and unwittingly launched a worldwide movement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankBulloughMellencamp Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Just now, boyst said: Brock Purdy is so interesting to me. In 5 years what we will be seeing from him. I think it is worth it to get a 3rd or 4th round simply to develop them and recover a comp pick while having a backup QB. He will only get better working in Shanahan's offense. Realistically, he is nearly as much of an exception as Tom Brady was in the 6th. And I just don't like the idea of training a guy only to lose him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 2 minutes ago, HankBulloughMellencamp said: He will only get better working in Shanahan's offense. Realistically, he is nearly as much of an exception as Tom Brady was in the 6th. And I just don't like the idea of training a guy only to lose him. We can't put him in the same sentence as Brady. Not unless he does another decade and multiple rings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankBulloughMellencamp Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) 7 minutes ago, boyst said: We can't put him in the same sentence as Brady. Not unless he does another decade and multiple rings. As far as late round QB hit rate, you can. But obviously, Brady is the GOAT. I am just casting a vote for using mid draft picks on other needs. Gabbert as a FA would likely cost too much. And based on what they've shown, I want absolutely ZERO to do with Mac Jones and/or Zach Wilson! Edited February 15 by HankBulloughMellencamp 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 12 hours ago, DCofNC said: Seriously though, Blake Bortles. He’s basically just the 2nd year version of Josh, perfect back up. Didn't Bortles derail his career with too much partying? I thought that was the story going around when he failed so miserably in several spots after looking so promising early in his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, HankBulloughMellencamp said: He will only get better working in Shanahan's offense. Realistically, he is nearly as much of an exception as Tom Brady was in the 6th. As long as Purdy can play for Shanahan or a Shanahan disciple, he'll probably do well. I'm not sure he would be very good playing for many other coaches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Kylen Allen's fourth quater of the Cowboy's game wasn't compelling enough for you'all to resign him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 As many others have commented before, Beane will probably have to go low cost for the backup QB. We don't see much of the players at practice, so it's hard for me to really judge K. Allen running the Bills offense. He also had limited game reps. I just believe Beane can get a better low cost option. I also think the influx of drafted QB's this year will push some starters into backup roles and send some current backups to free agency. I think we may be surprised at the number of better options that may become available for the Bills. It may take a while to sort out as potential FA candidates search for the most lucrative options or the best chances to win a championship. My hope is that a decent candidate panics and signs with the Bills on the cheap before the game of musical chairs runs out of landing spots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 16 hours ago, stuvian said: apparently he saved someone's life once by doing Heimlich or CPR You can't use "Heimlich" unless you pay the Heimlich family. Years ago the American Red Cross had to stop using that name, under threat of being sued, so now they just call it the "Abdominal Thrust method." True Story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 The Tre White situation is going to be the fascinating storyline. He was injured in week 5, realistically he should be full go (or close to it) by training camp. You release him, you still pay him 10 million while freeing up 6 million in cap. You can restructure, but that makes moving on harder in the future. You can also negotiate a pay cut, Cover-1 speculates that could open up 3-4 million and you can experiment with where Tre lines up next season. He has the reputation of being a less than willing tackler, but his missed tackle percentages are just slightly higher than Hyde, Poyer, and Johnson since 2018. Imagine, for a second, healthy Tre White playing open range Free Safety. NO ONE is going deep. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 12 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: The Tre White situation is going to be the fascinating storyline. He was injured in week 5, realistically he should be full go (or close to it) by training camp. You release him, you still pay him 10 million while freeing up 6 million in cap. You can restructure, but that makes moving on harder in the future. You can also negotiate a pay cut, Cover-1 speculates that could open up 3-4 million and you can experiment with where Tre lines up next season. He has the reputation of being a less than willing tackler, but his missed tackle percentages are just slightly higher than Hyde, Poyer, and Johnson since 2018. Imagine, for a second, healthy Tre White playing open range Free Safety. NO ONE is going deep. Not in this defense. We don't use traditional Free/Strong safeties 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I don’t give a ***** about the backup because if Josh goes down no one is taking this team anywhere. No sense climbing up the draft board only to lose anyway. If you need a guy for a couple games it’s more important that the other 10 do a better job just so the backup isn’t asked to do much 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 6 hours ago, Bob Jones said: You can't use "Heimlich" unless you pay the Heimlich family. Years ago the American Red Cross had to stop using that name, under threat of being sued, so now they just call it the "Abdominal Thrust method." True Story. not true. The American Red Cross dumped Heinrich and the term after he paid for shady research to discredit alternative method (back blows) of dislodging food in the trachea. Heimlichs own son admitted this. In fact the family would like nothing more than for the Red Cross to ONLY teach the Heimlich Maneuver in basic lifesaving courses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 @Mr. WEO I stand corrected. Wiki says this about it: 1) When the American Red Cross introduced back blows to its official guidelines on treating choking, Dr Heimlich disagreed that back blows should be used and asked that his name be removed from the guidelines. Leading to the renaming of the Heimlich maneuver as an Abdominal thrust. Weird that he disagreed on that point, since it seems that two different methods would be better than one, but I guess he had his reasons. And the Heimlich move IS the abdominal thrust move, while the back blows are just that, back blows. Not sure where I heard the lawsuit story, but it was years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cincinnati Kid Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 The Backup QB will very likely be whoever Josh wants it to be, so Kyle Allen because they’re besties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 if he loses games, we can Blame Gabbert 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 If Josh gets hurt, unless Mahomes is his backup, we’re 100% *****. I wouldn’t waste time or energy on anyone other than a clipboard holder who can hand the ball to Cook 55 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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