Richard Noggin Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Pay Justin Simmons and let’s roll!!! 1 hour ago, boyst said: Id take that in a heartbeat I mean, is there a Bills fan who would NOT take that early draft haul + the future picks? I don't love the 2nd WR or the 1st RB, but I DO love the b2b 2nd round DT and WR, even though that DT will be a rotational piece at best early on. The prospect of one of the rotational DEs making it (one of them probably ends up elsewhere, though) is nice, but there isn't much else to love unless that Penn State OC becomes essential depth (best case for him and team). So that 1st and 2nd round pick in 2025 is the real haul after those two essential 2024 pieces in rd 2. Trading back a little bit out of the first can be wildly lucrative long term, but risky in the short term. It's difficult lately for me to run a Bills mock and NOT take the bait on at least one or two trade back offers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Am I just deluded for thinking the first 5 or 6 picks here should be contributors sooner rather than later? Of course at least one or more of them has to miss, statistically, but these seem like strong picks at positions of need and value. I think Robinson and Legette are potential game-changers. Interesting to consider such a sweeping defensive retooling while also adding a couple needed offensive pieces. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 7 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: I mean, is there a Bills fan who would NOT take that early draft haul + the future picks? I don't love the 2nd WR or the 1st RB, but I DO love the b2b 2nd round DT and WR, even though that DT will be a rotational piece at best early on. The prospect of one of the rotational DEs making it (one of them probably ends up elsewhere, though) is nice, but there isn't much else to love unless that Penn State OC becomes essential depth (best case for him and team). So that 1st and 2nd round pick in 2025 is the real haul after those two essential 2024 pieces in rd 2. Trading back a little bit out of the first can be wildly lucrative long term, but risky in the short term. It's difficult lately for me to run a Bills mock and NOT take the bait on at least one or two trade back offers. i don't know for certain but i think Kirbs is in the camp of 2024 being a retool year. knowing, like many of us in this camp that our team isn't a top 4-6 talent. i think our goal should be much lower than the last 4-5 years. Win the East. Make the playoffs. Win a game. build depth. Go in 2025 in a decent cap space and if we have some extra premium picks than cool because this year has quality depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 I really like Robinson as an inside/out player. End on early downs, inside on passing downs. The problem being as with all McDermott picks he'll have to earn his time, so drafting him that early means he'll make the team but his contribution year one, will be light. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 8 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said: I really like Robinson as an inside/out player. End on early downs, inside on passing downs. The problem being as with all McDermott picks he'll have to earn his time, so drafting him that early means he'll make the team but his contribution year one, will be light. This is where I like Maason Smith. 6'6" 315 can play anywhere and draws comps. to Calais Campbell. Could also have some Chris Jones to him. If we can get him at 128? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Just now, nosejob said: This is where I like Maason Smith. 6'6" 315 can play anywhere and draws comps. to Calais Campbell. Could also have some Chris Jones to him. If we can get him at 128? I like that very much, Smith is perfect at that spot. Very athletic for his size, just needs the proper coaching and motivation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Just now, ScorpionZero said: I like that very much, Smith is perfect at that spot. Very athletic for his size, just needs the proper coaching and motivation. Like Latu getting poopooed and falling to us, maybe the same will work for us with Smith...( bit of an injury history etc.) Can you imagine getting Latu, Sweat and Smith? Young , solid core of intimidating DLine for years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 2 minutes ago, nosejob said: Like Latu getting poopooed and falling to us, maybe the same will work for us with Smith...( bit of an injury history etc.) Can you imagine getting Latu, Sweat and Smith? Young , solid core of intimidating DLine for years. Oh, oh, something just happened in my pants. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 8 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said: Oh, oh, something just happened in my pants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ScorpionZero Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Some minor trading compared to others. 33 Graham Barton IOL | Duke TRADE 60 Xavier Legette WR | South Carolina 101 Austin Booker EDGE | Kansas TRADE 117 Jaden Hicks S | Washington State TRADE 128 Blake Fisher OT | Notre Dame 133 Mason McCormick IOL | South Dakota State 160 Will Shipley RB | Clemson 194 Luke McCaffrey WR | Rice TRADE 214 A.J. Barner TE | Michigan TRADE 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Traded ALL OVER the board going from 11 picks to 6 LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 I wonder how many draft picks this team thinks it can roster? If I am looking at the roster I am seeing 7-9 spots for rookies. QB- Josh and Mitch are there probably no room on the 53 will need a PS QB in case of emergency but that’s likely a UDFA or a late stage free agent. RB- This team carrier 3 RB’s plus a FB. Cook and Ty plus Gilliam at FB are locks easily room for a draft pick to be the RB3 and provide for depth and special teams. WR- Team usually carries 5-6 right now they have 4 locks in Diggs, Samuel, Shakir and Hollins with a probable player in Shorter. Room for 1 more if they want it. TE- This team usually carries 3 and the DK bros are locks while Morris is a probable. Maybe a late round pick to push Morris but not a clear spot here. Oline- They usually carry 9 you have Dawkins, Edwards, McGovern, Torrence and Brown as starters with Van Denmark and Alex Anderson as locks for reserve spots. Clapp will also compete. Easily room for 1-2 picks here. DE- Team usually carries 6 and there’s 3 locks in AJE, Groot and Von with Kingsley Jonathan and Toohill there as back end competition. Easily room for 1-2 picks here. DT- Team usually carries 5 - Right now they have Oliver, Daquon and Jonathan as locks with Williams as back end depth and a fringe player. Easily room for 1-2 rookies. LB- Team usually carries 5 - Bernard, Morrow, Milano, and Dorian Williams are locks while I think Spector is a probable. Maybe room for late round competition for Spector but not a need. CB- Team usually carries 6 - Douglas, Elam, Benford, and Taron are locks. Easily room for 1-2 picks here depending on where they slot Cam Lewis. S- Team usually carries 5 - Rapp, Edwards, Hamlin and Lewis are here easily room for a pick here as they will likely want to develop someone behind Edwards. Punter and Kicker could also use competition but I don’t see them viewing it as a need to spend picks on. That’s about 9-10 slots by my count. 1RB, 1WR, 1OL, 1DE, 1DT, 1CB, and 1S and I think you could see a double dip at CB, DT, OL or DE. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 My first trade-UP. Cost me next year's 1st and a couple 4ths. Very happy with the results overall, but probably should have taken a couple modest mid-round tradebacks to win back some 2025 draft capital. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 today's PFF: I like this draft. I really like the WR in Rd. 1 and 2 idea. Here, we have two potential stud X receivers. Burton may be a headcase, so that will depend. The backup WR here would be Million from Washington, who appears more of a slot. I like Hadden, the CB from Tenn, as PFF gives him a 90 zone coverage grade. Allen upgrades the RB room, Travis is a great backup project who can be traded for a higher round pick perhaps, Zinter goes higher if not hurt, and the edges posses some rotation potental. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I used our 1 and a 2 from next year as part of trades to maneuver into this result. Nubin also fell to 65 which I could not resist. Good interior OL depth which is where we need it with so much OT depth already on the team. And of course, Odunze, the cherry on top 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 28 Adonai Mitchell WR | Texas 39 Troy Franklin WR | Oregon 60 T'Vondre Sweat DL | Texas 65 Trey Benson RB | Florida State 80 Cooper Beebe IOL | Kansas State 101 Cole Bishop S | Utah 105 Austin Booker EDGE | Kansas 149 Nehemiah Pritchett CB | Auburn 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ScorpionZero Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 28: R1 P28 WR Adonai Mitchell - Texas 60: R2 P28 WR Xavier Legette - South Carolina 128: R4 P28 WR Jalen McMillian - Washington 133: R4 P33 EDGE Javon Solomon - Troy 144: R5 P9 C Mason McCormick - South Dakota State 160: R5 P25 OT Garret Greenfield - South Dakota State 163: R5 P28 RB Isaac Guerendo - Louisville 196: R6 P20 DL Khristian Boyd - Northern Iowa 200: R6 P24 EDGE Austin Booker - Kansas 248: R7 P28 TE A.J. Barner - Michigan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 16 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said: 28: R1 P28 WR Adonai Mitchell - Texas 60: R2 P28 WR Xavier Legette - South Carolina 128: R4 P28 WR Jalen McMillian - Washington 133: R4 P33 EDGE Javon Solomon - Troy 144: R5 P9 C Mason McCormick - South Dakota State 160: R5 P25 OT Garret Greenfield - South Dakota State 163: R5 P28 RB Isaac Guerendo - Louisville 196: R6 P20 DL Khristian Boyd - Northern Iowa 200: R6 P24 EDGE Austin Booker - Kansas 248: R7 P28 TE A.J. Barner - Michigan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 15. Brian Thomas Jr. , WR, LSU * Gave up 28 and a 2025 RD2 ick 60. Ja’Lynn Polk, WR, Washington 128. Mason McCormick, OG, South Dakota State 133. Beaux Limmer, OG, Arkansas 144. DJ James, CB, Auburn 160. Tykee Smith, S/NCB, Georgia 163. Jaylin Simpson, CB, Aubrun 189. Marist Liafu, LB, Notre Dame 200. Grayson Murphy, EDGE, UCLA 204. Logan Lee, DL, Missouri 248. Tahj Washington, WR, USC 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 My own simulation 🤪 28, 2025 1st, 2nd, 4th to NYG for #6 60, 2025 2nd, Dawson Knox to PHI for #22 6. Malik Nabers 22. Brian Thomas Jr 😎🤣 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 At the risk of being a total joiner... Traded up to Saints #14 = Bills #28 + Bills 2025 1st and Min 2025 2nd -- to grab Rome Odunze, among other moves. How we feeling about Odunze and Cornelius Johnson at WR plus value at DT, RB, OG, S (former Miami secondary coach is with Bills now) and CB? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 4 round mock. Legette and Baker didn't make it so I went different than usual 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KOKBILLS Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I did a 2 round mock last night with a group of my Draft crazy friends. I got AD Mitchell at 28 and pretty easily traded up to 42 in order to Draft Xavier Legette... I gave up a 3rd in 2025, a 4th and 6th this year. Mitchell and Legette on Rookie deals for the next 4 years minimum and Josh Allen as the QB... Along with Samuel, Kincaid and Shakir... I think that would be pretty amazing personally... 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Beane goes wild on the WR Train 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Not really a lock draft but over the past few days since the adjustment of talent rankings for these sims, all I got to say is this after seeing some of the teams draft classes… Thankfully the Cardinals are in the NFC. Real strong chance that team is a completely different one if Kyler can play well. 6 picks in the top 90; 5 in the top 71 is bonkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaldimandBills Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Playing around with the different mock draft simulators and I dont think its unreasonable to trade up in the 2nd round if we find a few recievers are slipping out of the 1st round. Using this method I have a few times ended up with the ability to draft two receivers from the following group. Xavier Worthy Adonai Mitchell Xaiver Legette Keon Coleman Ladd McConkey Troy Franklin Ja'Lynn Polk In fact in every mock draft I've ended up with two of these guys by picking at # 28 and trading into the top 40 using our # 60 and 133 pick and a 2nd next year. Obviously mock draft simulators isn't reality but I see a world where the Bills could double dip on two of these guys. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Traded 28, 128 and a 2025 2nd to get up to 19 for Thomas. No idea why Newton dropped to 60 but that was a must get. Filled depth with the rest. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Three different types of receivers, and the next killer safety tandem for years. Allen and Barner for the running game. Which may be why they traded diggs, thinking of more TE's and a thumper RB, with play action that works. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ScorpionZero Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Out of these 4 who do you select @ 28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 31 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said: Out of these 4 who do you select @ 28 Really is such a tough call... Benefits and concerns with all 4. Upside is highest with Worthy and Coleman but also the most risk of failure as I see it. Franklin and McConkey should help right away with McConkey having the highest floor of the 4 and Franklin looking a little better on deep routes. I can't decide which trigger I would ultimately pull. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 30. Ladd McConkeyWR Georgia 60. Xavier LegetteWR South Carolina 93. DeWayne CarterDT Duke 128. Maason SmithDT LSU 133. Tykee SmithS Georgia 148. Zak ZinterOG Michigan 160. Jonah EllissEDGE Utah 183. Garret GreenfieldOT South Dakota State 204. Joe Milton IIIQB Tennessee 248. Kendall MiltonRB Georgia 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Traded back 3 times from 28 and getting the 3 late 3rd rounders. I went McConkey because of his high end routes, which just lost with diggs. 35 Ladd McConkey WR | Georgia TRADE 60 Tyler Nubin S | Minnesota 90 Jermaine Burton WR | Alabama TRADE 93 Cole Bishop S | Utah TRADE 97 Blake Corum RB | Michigan TRADE 115 Dominick Puni IOL | Kansas TRADE 128 Tyler Davis DL | Clemson 133 Ben Sinnott TE | Kansas State 218 Dwight McGlothern CB | Arkansas TRADE 228 Braiden McGregor EDGE | Michigan 1 hour ago, 34-78-83 said: Really is such a tough call... Benefits and concerns with all 4. Upside is highest with Worthy and Coleman but also the most risk of failure as I see it. Franklin and McConkey should help right away with McConkey having the highest floor of the 4 and Franklin looking a little better on deep routes. I can't decide which trigger I would ultimately pull. After thinking about the WR thing, I think if like to see them get AD and Coleman. With Samuel in the slot I think it gives us a really good balance to the offense. We should be able to wrangle the picks needed if they really wanted to 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 30 Ladd McConkey WR | Georgia TRADE 35 Keon Coleman WR | Florida State TRADE 60 Tyler Nubin S | Minnesota 66 Cooper Beebe IOL | Kansas State TRADE 93 Cole Bishop S | Utah TRADE 133 Matt Goncalves OT | Pittsburgh 160 Nehemiah Pritchett CB | Auburn 162 Jalyx Hunt EDGE | Houston Baptist TRADE 200 Joe Milton QB | Tennessee 204 Jordan Jefferson DL | LSU 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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