Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Hopefully new OC will convince McD that he is useless. A team with Josh Allen does not need a FB. A third TE can take all his snaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Time to move on and save nearly $2 mill in cap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, Pete said: Reggie is a core special teamer, playing all 4 units. His hit on opening kickoff is one of the Bills plays of the year. Gilliam is a very valuable Bill With our cap a core special team player should be a late round rookie or UDFA. Have to stop wasting money on marginal players. And wouldn't it have been nice to have an extra DB on the team? And same goes for Matakevich. He can't play LB yet he has a roster spot. Sure would have been nice to have an actual LB on the roster for that final game Waste of money, cap space, and roster spots. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 6 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: With our cap a core special team player should be a late round rookie or UDFA. Have to stop wasting money on marginal players. And wouldn't it have been nice to have an extra DB on the team? And same goes for Matakevich. He can't play LB yet he has a roster spot. Sure would have been nice to have an actual LB on the roster for that final game Waste of money, cap space, and roster spots. Gilliam does more that special teams. He is a swiss army knife. He is making $2 million, and hes earning his $. We have to pay someone to replace him. And our special teams sucked last year. Failure, after failure. I do not want to see the Bills regress on special teams. Cam, Reggie, and Siran are our aces. Removing one of our aces is not wise IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Pete said: Gilliam does more that special teams. He is a swiss army knife. He is making $2 million, and hes earning his $. We have to pay someone to replace him. And our special teams sucked last year. Failure, after failure. I do not want to see the Bills regress on special teams. Cam, Reggie, and Siran are our aces. Removing one of our aces is not wise IMO Our coverage on special teams was terrible. Get rid of them all and start again. Edited January 27 by GASabresIUFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 2 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: Our coverage on special teams was terrible. Get rid of them all and start again. No doubt we need to improve special teams. But we don’t want to throw the baby out with the bath water. Did you study every all 22 special team play? I think a better strategy is to let coaches break down failures and identify weak links. There are 11 players- they do not all suck on every play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Here is what Reggie Gilliam is: Good blocker Good special teams player Good athlete Emergency TE Cheap (1.6m in 2024) No reason to question his spot on this team at all. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 11 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Here is what Reggie Gilliam is: Good blocker Good special teams player Good athlete Emergency TE Cheap (1.6m in 2024) No reason to question his spot on this team at all. Exactly. He does a lot of different things. Special Teams, added blocker, and versatile. And he doesn't cost much. But a majority of posters around here feel anyone can block and anyone can play special teams. And unless you're scoring points or getting INT's or sacks, you're useless, can be replaced by literally anyone, and are a waste of resources. Edited January 28 by BillsFanForever19 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I found it interesting that they extended him after only two years … can’t recall them doing that otherwise with a undrafted guy …. They must have liked him I’m not going to lose any sleep if he sees out his last year at $1.9m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 He’s ok but more of a #2 imho. This team need a true #1 fullback to get them over the hump in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 41 minutes ago, Pete said: No doubt we need to improve special teams. But we don’t want to throw the baby out with the bath water. Did you study every all 22 special team play? I think a better strategy is to let coaches break down failures and identify weak links. There are 11 players- they do not all suck on every play However given our cap issues we need players that contribute on O\D and special teams. We really can’t afford special teams specialists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 6 hours ago, NoSaint said: Are there 6 true fullbacks in the nfl? There are in the pro bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 6 hours ago, FireChans said: I think he might be. Ricard and Juice are probably the only 2 dudes I take over him. Ricard isn't a fullback. Cmon. Dude is just a big guy who they give the rock to carry. No different than Kyle Williams was. I can't believe more teams simply don't do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 28 Author Share Posted January 28 6 minutes ago, boyst said: Ricard isn't a fullback. Cmon. Dude is just a big guy who they give the rock to carry. No different than Kyle Williams was. I can't believe more teams simply don't do this. They also throw the ball to Ricard. He had 5 catches for 52 yards on the year. Those are Trent Sherfield numbers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: They also throw the ball to Ricard. He had 5 catches for 52 yards on the year. Those are Trent Sherfield numbers. Sherfield was just gross I remember last spring when he and Harty were going to make us completely forget Isaiah McKenzie existed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 How many snaps did he take at fullback? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 9 minutes ago, klos63 said: How many snaps did he take at fullback? 99 snaps in total, I’m sure most at FB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 We seem to run a lot of extra offensive lineman sets for a team that carries a fullback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 9 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said: However given our cap issues we need players that contribute on O\D and special teams. We really can’t afford special teams specialists The point is that Reggie is not only a core special teamer- he protects Josh, he’s 3rd TE, he is a key player helping do dirty work, enabling plays to succeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 16 hours ago, eSJayDee said: Do you even call him a FB? There's nobody on the roster ahead of him; as I recall he's been healthy all year & he's played what, prolly (well) under 100 offensive snaps. Meanwhile, he plays most ST snaps & has prolly played 300+ there. No, he's not a top 5 FB & he's arguably not even a FB. For that matter, as someone mentioned above, how many true FBs are there these days? Not well under. 99 in the regular season. He has had less value on offense this year than in previous years. But yes, he is a proper full back and in terms of how many guys would I rank above him as fullbacks.... It's Ricard, Jusczyk and Burton (Denver). I reckon there are about 10-12 teams I'd say keep and use a fullback - it is mainly Shanahan stretch zone teams: San Francisco, Miami, Minnesota, Houston, Atlanta and then E-P teams: Denver, Las Vegas, Buffalo, New Orleans and then Baltimore who kinda fit into that category as well. I'm probably missing a couple. Normally you'd add New England to that list but they didn't carry one this year I don't think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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