Eagles replace DC Sean Desai with Matt Patricia...

[Big Turk]

Wow...this one likely won't age well based on Patricia's track record outside New England...

 

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/sports/nfl/report-eagles-replace-sean-desai-with-matt-patricia-amid-defensive-struggles/3723981/#:~:text=The Eagles have replaced defensive,Patricia%2C a league source confirmed.

Edited December 18, 2023 by Big Turk

[Beck Water]

  On 12/18/2023 at 3:24 PM, Big Turk said:

Wow...this one likely won't age well based on Patricia's track record outside New England...

 

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/sports/nfl/report-eagles-replace-sean-desai-with-matt-patricia-amid-defensive-struggles/3723981/#:~:text=The Eagles have replaced defensive,Patricia%2C a league source confirmed.

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This gave me a double-take.  I hadn't even realized that Philly brought Patricia onboard as an assistant.

 

I do think Patricia is a strong defensive coordinator but sucked as a HC.  Patricia's track record outside NE is as a HC, then he came back to work for NE on the offensive side of the ball and that was a disaster. 

 

But when he stays in his defensive lane, I think he's pretty sound.  He had top-10 defenses in NE from 2012 to 2017.  Of course with NE, you never know how much was the assistant and how much was Belicheck, and, during that era, how much was Brady and the refs.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

  On 12/18/2023 at 3:41 PM, Beck Water said:

 

This gave me a double-take.  I hadn't even realized that Philly brought Patricia onboard as an assistant.

 

I do think Patricia is a strong defensive coordinator but sucked as a HC.  Patricia's track record outside NE is as a HC, then he came back to work for NE on the offensive side of the ball and that was a disaster. 

 

But when he stays in his defensive lane, I think he's pretty sound.  He had top-10 defenses in NE from 2012 to 2017.  Of course with NE, you never know how much was the assistant and how much was Belicheck, and, during that era, how much was Brady and the refs.

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I can’t even say Matt Patricia at OC was a disaster when bill O’Brien is doing even worse 😂

[Bills Fan in MD]

Patricia calling NE's offense last year has to go down as one of the weirdest coaching decisions ever.

[Jauronimo]

Promoting the league's hottest offensive coordinator to lead your defense is some out of the box thinking.

[T master]

I hope this doesn't do for their D what brady has done for the Bills offense ...

[JohnNord]

  On 12/18/2023 at 3:41 PM, Beck Water said:

 

This gave me a double-take.  I hadn't even realized that Philly brought Patricia onboard as an assistant.

 

I do think Patricia is a strong defensive coordinator but sucked as a HC.  Patricia's track record outside NE is as a HC, then he came back to work for NE on the offensive side of the ball and that was a disaster. 

 

But when he stays in his defensive lane, I think he's pretty sound.  He had top-10 defenses in NE from 2012 to 2017.  Of course with NE, you never know how much was the assistant and how much was Belicheck, and, during that era, how much was Brady and the refs.

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Everyone wants to get in their little jab by calling Patricia a OC.  That was an incredibly strange move by Belichick and that hubris is largely why it appears New England is going to fire him in 3 more games.

 

Regardless as stated Patricia had a relatively strong background in NE as DC, although when he branched out on his own in Detroit the results weren’t pretty.  
 

What surprises me more is that Philly made the switch to begin with, only because Sean Desai was thought of to be a rising star and a potential HC candidate.  His defense has certainly struggled but they never had good inside LB’s and were suspect in the secondary.  
 

But you have to think that this is the end of Desai in Philly.  Unless Patricia sucks (which is possible) you can’t go back to Desai.  And if you were Desai, would you want to go back after getting the rug pulled from under you?  All signs point to him leaving Philly. 

It should also  be noted that Philadelphia has only scored 13 and 19 points when facing Dallas and SF the past two weeks.  While the defense hasn’t been good, the offense has also been far below its standard against contenders.  
 

Maybe Nick Sirianni should have fired himself?!?!?!?

  On 12/18/2023 at 3:50 PM, T master said:

I hope this doesn't do for their D what brady has done for the Bills offense ...

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Wouldn’t surprised me to see a little boost.  The DL is freaking stacked so they should get more out of that unit.  
 

Aside from that the LB’s are bad and just about everyone in the secondary other that Byard are suspect.  Maybe Shaq Leonard makes a difference?  

[Fan in Chicago]

  On 12/18/2023 at 3:24 PM, Big Turk said:

Wow...this one likely won't age well based on Patricia's track record outside New England...

 

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/sports/nfl/report-eagles-replace-sean-desai-with-matt-patricia-amid-defensive-struggles/3723981/#:~:text=The Eagles have replaced defensive,Patricia%2C a league source confirmed.

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This is very surprising with how late in the season the change is being made. Eagles are still on the path to the playoffs and messing with the key staff positions is highly risky. 

[dpberr]

This was a poor move.  There's a lot of film on Patricia's defensive strategies, and he's not a guy who adjusts the strategy ever.  Seattle will have a good idea of what's coming.

 

Eagles have slow linebackers and an old secondary outside Blankenship.  Teams can dink and dunk and run to the outside all game long.    

 

 

 

 

[JohnNord]

  On 12/18/2023 at 3:43 PM, Bills Fan in MD said:

Patricia calling NE's offense last year has to go down as one of the weirdest coaching decisions ever.

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Classic Belichick thinking he’s the smartest man in football.   A blend of hubris and insecurity.   Rather than realizing his preference of “smash mouth” football was outdated, he brought back old cronies to support him rather than hiring someone from outside the org with new ideas.  
 

Patricia and Joe as OC’s, was one of the final nails 

[Big Turk]

  On 12/18/2023 at 4:03 PM, JohnNord said:

Classic Belichick thinking he’s the smartest man in football.   A blend of hubris and insecurity.   Rather than realizing his preference of “smash mouth” football was outdated, he brought back old cronies to support him rather than hiring someone from outside the org with new ideas.  
 

Patricia and Joe as OC’s, was one of the final nails 

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And yet they did far better than O'Brien has on offense this year. Except in their first game against us.

Edited December 18, 2023 by Big Turk

[RoyBatty is alive]

  On 12/18/2023 at 3:43 PM, Bills Fan in MD said:

Patricia calling NE's offense last year has to go down as one of the weirdest coaching decisions ever.

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That signaled the beginning of the demise of Belichek, his ego got the best of him.

[PatsFanNH]

  On 12/18/2023 at 3:24 PM, Big Turk said:

Wow...this one likely won't age well based on Patricia's track record outside New England...

 

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/sports/nfl/report-eagles-replace-sean-desai-with-matt-patricia-amid-defensive-struggles/3723981/#:~:text=The Eagles have replaced defensive,Patricia%2C a league source confirmed.

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Roflmao his D stunk up here in NE!!! OMG the fools with all that talent and you give it to rocket scientist Patricia!  OMG… I may pee myself laughing.

[BADOLBILZ]

  On 12/18/2023 at 3:43 PM, Bills Fan in MD said:

Patricia calling NE's offense last year has to go down as one of the weirdest coaching decisions ever.

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Andy Reid fired Sean McDermott as DC in Philly and replaced him with Juan Castillo(yeah, the O-Line coach).

[PatsFanNH]

  On 12/18/2023 at 4:25 PM, Big Turk said:

 

And yet they did far better than O'Brien has on offense this year. Except in their first game against us.

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O line has been a mess only 1 true starting OT and he been hurt a lot this year and well the O line just started playing better and the O looks a bit better, especially the last 2 weeks against good D’s.. 

[Beck Water]

  On 12/18/2023 at 4:29 PM, BADOLBILZ said:

Andy Reid fired Sean McDermott as DC in Philly and replaced him with Juan Castillo(yeah, the O-Line coach).

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That would also be up there, yes

[Big Turk]

  On 12/18/2023 at 3:51 PM, JohnNord said:

Everyone wants to get in their little jab by calling Patricia a OC.  That was an incredibly strange move by Belichick and that hubris is largely why it appears New England is going to fire him in 3 more games.

 

Regardless as stated Patricia had a relatively strong background in NE as DC, although when he branched out on his own in Detroit the results weren’t pretty.  
 

What surprises me more is that Philly made the switch to begin with, only because Sean Desai was thought of to be a rising star and a potential HC candidate.  His defense has certainly struggled but they never had good inside LB’s and were suspect in the secondary.  
 

But you have to think that this is the end of Desai in Philly.  Unless Patricia sucks (which is possible) you can’t go back to Desai.  And if you were Desai, would you want to go back after getting the rug pulled from under you?  All signs point to him leaving Philly. 

It should also  be noted that Philadelphia has only scored 13 and 19 points when facing Dallas and SF the past two weeks.  While the defense hasn’t been good, the offense has also been far below its standard against contenders.  
 

Maybe Nick Sirianni should have fired himself?!?!?!?

Wouldn’t surprised me to see a little boost.  The DL is freaking stacked so they should get more out of that unit.  
 

Aside from that the LB’s are bad and just about everyone in the secondary other that Byard are suspect.  Maybe Shaq Leonard makes a difference?  

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If Shaq Leonard was making a difference he would still be in Indy.  He is a shell of his former self.

[Billy Claude]

  On 12/18/2023 at 4:28 PM, PatsFanNH said:

Roflmao his D stunk up here in NE!!! OMG the fools with all that talent and you give it to rocket scientist Patricia!  OMG… I may pee myself laughing.

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Agreed.  I don't understand how Patricia got the job in Detroit in the first place. The Patriots defense was 2nd worse in yards per play and 4th worse in total yards given up in Patricia's last year as D.C. in New England.  Their defense also gave up 41 points to the Eagles in the Super Bowl that year.  Partly the stats are due to teams playing from behind but being 31st in an important defensive metric is not good no matter how you parse it.

 

 

 

Edited December 18, 2023 by Billy Claude

[JohnNord]

  On 12/18/2023 at 4:25 PM, Big Turk said:

 

And yet they did far better than O'Brien has on offense this year. Except in their first game against us.

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Right… and this goes back to Bill’s outdated philosophy and being totally clueless as GM.  It was clear that Mac Jones wasn’t the type of QB that could elevate the offense and needed better playmakers at WR.  
 

So Bill lets their best WR Jakobi Meyers walk and overpays his replacement JuJu, re-signs an underwhelming Devante Parker, and low balls DeAndre Hopkins.  
 

He also signs Ezekiel Elliot to be his third down back.

 

It’s bot a surprise they were worse this season
 

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

  On 12/18/2023 at 4:25 PM, Big Turk said:

 

And yet they did far better than O'Brien has on offense this year. Except in their first game against us.

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If we had Douglas/joseph for that game I think it’s a two score win.  O’Brien lucked out facing one of the worst defensive lineups in the league this year that week.  I think Ed was out as well on top of no Daquan no Milano no tre white and von playing terrible in his big knee brace