JohnNord Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 50 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: No. Middle linebacker and offensive line were the two biggest questions, and the Bills seem to have gotten both correct. They did. WR2 was a big question mark as well. The Bills showed a ton of faith in Davis and it didn’t pay off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 20 minutes ago, JohnNord said: They did. WR2 was a big question mark as well. The Bills showed a ton of faith in Davis and it didn’t pay off Despite the coaches saying how well he played Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 If you’re looking for a wide receiver who can do everything but receive, Gabe is your man. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 1 hour ago, oldmanfan said: Despite the coaches saying how well he played They are referring to his run blocking in one game last week. When you look at his performance and numbers over the course of the season, he’s essentially the same player he’s always been. There was hope he’d step it up a little, and it really never happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Not one drop all day. Now, can he do that two games in a row? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Kyle Allen was pretty special too No fumbles or interceptions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Imagine what Joe would've said if Gabe had gotten open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 1 hour ago, JohnNord said: They are referring to his run blocking in one game last week. When you look at his performance and numbers over the course of the season, he’s essentially the same player he’s always been. There was hope he’d step it up a little, and it really never happened. Right. That’s what they needed from him in the game. That’s what he delivered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Just now, oldmanfan said: Right. That’s what they needed from him in the game. That’s what he delivered. In that game they needed him as a blocker. But over the past 3 weeks he has like 3 receptions. This is not what they need from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, JohnNord said: In that game they needed him as a blocker. But over the past 3 weeks he has like 3 receptions. This is not what they need from him. I will be interested to see how things proceed under Brady. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 23 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: Gabe is TE / OL level blocking on the edge. It reminds of the old days where Robert Woods would not get credit for fantastic blocking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, Limeaid said: It reminds of the old days where Robert Woods would not get credit for fantastic blocking. Maybe in terms of run blocking as a WR. But I don’t find Woods and Davis to be comparable at all. Two different kinds of WR’s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) I'm all for unselfish play and realize stats don't tell the whole story. However, when your full time WR who plays the majority of the snaps is averaging 3.3 catches and 49 yds a game, there's more than just helping out in the run game and others get open going on. Edited November 25, 2023 by White Linen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 While everyone is ragging on Davis, he'll keep doing the dirty work....then when everyone least expects it...he'll catch an 80yd bomb. The Bills wanted him to be a number 2 and in case Diggs goes down, he could be a number one. That is not what he is, but he does make a big play from time to time. I've been so infuriated watching the Bills target only Diggs and Davis. Defenses catch on to that too. Using him as a down field blocker and getting the ball into the hands of a multitude of other play makers is just playing smart. It also opens things up for Gabe when the defense doesn't know who it's going to next. Early in the season people were talking about the 2 TE set and how to get a single high safety so Gabe could do what he does. That all sounds nice, but when you neglect to put the ball in multiple hands, spread the wealth, you are doing a great disservice to your team. Our new OC picked up on that right away. The route concepts opened up last week. The presnap motion was back. Everyone on offense was involved. Even Dion Dawkins was running all the way across the line to put a hat on someone. More than that, it looked like everyone was having fun. Meanwhile, Davis was quietly doing the dirty work so the rest of the team could. Ain't nothing wrong with that. He's going to make some catches too, and opening things up for everyone else is exactly how he does it. Davis can be a number 2, just not the way everyone thought at the beginning of the year. I think Davis' struggles this year is because he has not been put in position to succeed. He isn't quick twitch and able to plant a foot and gain quick separation. He's pretty good at deep routes, but those short routes are better off going to Shakir, Kincaid, Cook. Everyone has different skill sets. I'm happy to see a play caller recognize that and start playing to the team's strengths for a change. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) Switch Davis to TE & Kincaid to WR-2. There fixed. Edited November 25, 2023 by Donuts and Doritos 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 21 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: HAIKU FOR YOU: Gabe Davis questions Can we win with him at WR Only time will tell my friends You're early on this Sincerely, The haiku committee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 21 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Again, McD was not the reason for that loss. There is zero reason to think so. Levi Wallace made it plain they called the right play on D, but that the communication between himself and Poyer broke down and that resulted in that big hole for Kelce. I can't stop laughing! First of all, what about the pass to Hill on the prior play? What the pro-McD excuse for that one? Secondly, here's a clip of that Kelce play. I'd absolutely love to get your take, not the rest of the forum's, but your take on the "communicational breakdown" between Wallace and Poyer, who were what, 25 yards away from each other, with Wallace clearly the cover responsibility on Kelce? What was the breakdown? What was each "supposed to do?" ... Many would suggest that maybe Poyer shouldn't have been nearly 30 yards away from any play and backpeddling on the snap. How is that a "communication breakdown" between the two players? Did you mean a communication breakdown between Poyer and the sideline? Poyer's 27 yards from the line-of-scrimmage, and 20 yards from Wallace. Poyer immediately begins backpeddling when the ball is snapped, and doesn't even begin to reverse his momentum until Mahomes throws to Kelce. So I'm all ears as to this supposed breakdown between Wallace and Poyer who weren't even near each other, with Poyer nowhere near any receiver, much less Kelce. Let's also keep in mind that McD called a timeout immediately prior to that play, presumably to get it right. He certainly had plenty of time to think things through. Blaming anyone but McD for that loss is at least partially misguided. Has there ever been a coach that's taken less heat for the major gaffs of his own team than McD? 21 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: It really was a great game by Davis and of course by Allen as well. Yeah, that goes without saying. 21 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: I love what Brady said here. Clearly Davis wasn't the MVP, but equally he's doing a lot that goes under the radar and Brady is pointing that out and keeping the team together by spreading the praise. Good for him That's fair, and I don't begrudge him doing that. He and the rest of the staff have to say whatever they need to say to keep team unity and increase their odds of optomizing their performance. The words are nice, but it'd also be nice if the executional aspects of our coaching followed suit. Wouldn't you say. And BTW, it still doesn't alter the fact that the only reason why we were even in that game, besides Allen, was Davis. Without Davis that day, McD has yet another horrible playoff loss on his hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 I never had unrealistic expectations for GD so it’s all good… except after the Denver loss when he and another “Captain” decided they weren’t gonna speak with the media. To me that was the moment he was supposed to exhibit leadership, perspective, and wisdom. As a Captain he got a failing grade IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 (edited) Davis takes a lot of heat for a WR that gets paid as little as he's been paid. It'd be one thing if he were brought on at $10/season or something, but he's far from that. His original contact w/o escalators was less than $1M/season. It seems that a lot of the dissatisfaction with Davis would be more appropriately directed at Beane. But he appears to be off-limits in this context. As a reminder, Davis was a late 4th-round pick, the 22nd pick in the 4th. He's done just fine considering. Will he be worth what he'll get in free-agency? Probably not. Could we use an upgrade, sure. But that's not Davis' fault. Edited November 26, 2023 by PBF81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, PBF81 said: Davis takes a lot of heat for a WR that gets paid as little as he's been paid. It'd be one thing if he were brought on at $10/season or something, but he's far from that. His original contact w/o escalators was less than $1M/season. For me, once he was named a Team Captain, that changed things. It's an opportunity that he is so far squandering... and not necessarily by his play. This has been a dark season so far and he has not brought anything to change that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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