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Immigration Is Good For America


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LEGAL and regulated immigration is good for countries.

 

Unregulated immigration brings crime, trafficking and a host of other issues.

 

Eff, DEM "sanctuary cities" are already moving social services from Americans to illegal aliens.

 

 

Hint, if you sneak over the border vs going through a port of call. your committing a crime.

 

 

 

 

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29 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 


Why do you assume that the migrants will only vote democrat when Hispanic voters increasingly vote conservative, evidenced by Miami-Dade County in Florida in the 2020 election?

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6 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


Why do you assume that the migrants will only vote democrat when Hispanic voters increasingly vote conservative, evidenced by Miami-Dade County in Florida in the 2020 election?


This is a fair point. 
 

Hispanics are typically socially conservative and believe in a strong work ethic & the nuclear family. 
 

Those are heavy characteristics of a Republican voter .. and we’re starting to see shifts in the Hispanic community that, at the least, their voting block could become a 50/50 proposition.  
 

Especially once they’ve assimilated over some time and established themselves in the country.  
 

However.. a lot of these people coming over recently are immediately reliant upon the government and seem to be staying that way. 
 

That creates a reliable blue voting block. 
 

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In regards to “Replacement Theory”.. Dems are having a tough time convincing normal Americans that this isn’t happening, when black folks in cities are starting to talk about this.

 

When politicians talk about turning states blue with due to demographic change. 
 

It’s a normie view now.. Due to the actions of this Administration, that term left the Tucker Carlson/Alex Jones sphere and began to permeate mainstream political conversation. 

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22 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


Why do you assume that the migrants will only vote democrat when Hispanic voters increasingly vote conservative, evidenced by Miami-Dade County in Florida in the 2020 election?

Cause those in Florida are Cuban who actually had to deal with the brutal effects of a brutal regime. Thinking is hard.

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25 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


Why do you assume that the migrants will only vote democrat when Hispanic voters increasingly vote conservative, evidenced by Miami-Dade County in Florida in the 2020 election?

First off, not all of the illegal migrants are Hispanic.  Secondly, they haven't been here long enough, nor are they citizens, to see the corruption and see that they are being used to someone else's gain before they are discarded once the are of no use or catch on to being preyed upon.  They are also being bribed by being given thousands of dollars, free health care, free travel, and free passes.  They probably feel like they owe a vote (which they have no right to do) as a thank you for all of the freebies they receive. Plus, if they keep voting for the politicians that let them commit crimes and get away with it and released within hours, well, why wouldn't they.  No accountability, free money, free lodging in luxury hotels, free health care, free to drive, free to commit crime...AND get PAID for it???  Do you really have to ask?? 

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10 minutes ago, phypon said:

First off, not all of the illegal migrants are Hispanic.  Secondly, they haven't been here long enough, nor are they citizens, to see the corruption and see that they are being used to someone else's gain before they are discarded once the are of no use or catch on to being preyed upon.  They are also being bribed by being given thousands of dollars, free health care, free travel, and free passes.  They probably feel like they owe a vote (which they have no right to do) as a thank you for all of the freebies they receive. Plus, if they keep voting for the politicians that let them commit crimes and get away with it and released within hours, well, why wouldn't they.  No accountability, free money, free lodging in luxury hotels, free health care, free to drive, free to commit crime...AND get PAID for it???  Do you really have to ask?? 


If this is the case, why don’t republicans offer free stuff to sway votes instead?

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6 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


If this is the case, why don’t republicans offer free stuff to sway votes instead?

In a world populated with Tiberius and Dufus from Riverside this might be the most vapid post this board has ever seen. 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽🤦🏽‍♀️

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1 minute ago, JDHillFan said:

In a world populated with Tiberius and Dufus from Riverside this might be the most vapid post this board has ever seen. 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽🤦🏽‍♀️

 

Debate me then! If this is the only reason migrants want to come here, why don't the Republicans take advantage of this and offer more amenities? 

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7 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


If this is the case, why don’t republicans offer free stuff to sway votes instead?

I'm apolitical, but, to answer your question, because it's wrong.  I believe that any truly elected politician that are true to their constituents know that hard working people aren't down with that kind of thing. To break it down, it's simply not fair.  Not only that, they know that the constituent base realizes that they will have to work harder in order to pay for those programs and pay for those freebies.  It's just not right.  This is how the middle class is being dismantled and they are not happy about it.  An example would be, I don't think it 's right for you to pay for someone else's kid to go to college.  It's not fair to you and people are getting fed up, especially when it's taking food off of their table when times are getting tough.

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5 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

Debate me then! If this is the only reason migrants want to come here, why don't the Republicans take advantage of this and offer more amenities? 

Offering more “amenities” as you call them is, in essence, socialism. While many on your side have been advocating for that, I’m quite certain it’s not what most Americans want for our country. You made more sense when you were advocating for elementary schools to stock reading materials on anal/oral. 

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56 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Why do you assume that the migrants will only vote democrat when Hispanic voters increasingly vote conservative, evidenced by Miami-Dade County in Florida in the 2020 election?

 

Illegals see that Dems are not only rolling out the red carpet but trying to allow them to remain in the US, where they can financially benefit.  So they'll be far more likely to vote Dem.  Values don't pay the bills. And those were legal citizens of the US who voted in MDC.

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16 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Illegals see that Dems are not only rolling out the red carpet but trying to allow them to remain in the US, where they can financially benefit.  So they'll be far more likely to vote Dem.  Values don't pay the bills. And those were legal citizens of the US who voted in MDC.

Why would migrants embrace the Democratic party, the party of welfare?  You're kidding right?

 

From the Brookings Institute....

Welfare Benefits for Non-citizens

"Refugees and asylees are eligible for all welfare benefits for the first seven years they reside in the U.S."

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31 minutes ago, phypon said:

I'm apolitical, but, to answer your question, because it's wrong.  I believe that any truly elected politician that are true to their constituents know that hard working people aren't down with that kind of thing. To break it down, it's simply not fair.  Not only that, they know that the constituent base realizes that they will have to work harder in order to pay for those programs and pay for those freebies.  It's just not right.  This is how the middle class is being dismantled and they are not happy about it.  An example would be, I don't think it 's right for you to pay for someone else's kid to go to college.  It's not fair to you and people are getting fed up, especially when it's taking food off of their table when times are getting tough.

 

Then extend the programs, such as healthcare, to all Americans. 

 

I don't mind such programs because they ultimately benefit ME by providing a more robust and healthier country to live in. Just to stay on the healthcare point, our healthcare system is the most expensive on the planet yet it still leaves people out. A medicare for all type public option would actually SAVE us money. 

26 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Illegals see that Dems are not only rolling out the red carpet but trying to allow them to remain in the US, where they can financially benefit.  So they'll be far more likely to vote Dem.  Values don't pay the bills. And those were legal citizens of the US who voted in MDC.

 

They benefit, start businesses, have kids, pay taxes, etc etc. 

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4 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

Then extend the programs, such as healthcare, to all Americans. 

 

I don't mind such programs because they ultimately benefit ME by providing a more robust and healthier country to live in. Just to stay on the healthcare point, our healthcare system is the most expensive on the planet yet it still leaves people out. A medicare for all type public option would actually SAVE us money. 

 

They benefit, start businesses, have kids, pay taxes, etc etc. 

I completely understand your premise.  The healthcare system in this country is completely f'up.  It's too focused on profits and disregards the individual, which is bad for the people of this country.  The bolded part is, what I think, makes most people upset.  We need to be able to take care of ourselves first before we offer those benefits to non-citizens.  I don't think it's fair to offer those benefits to non-Americans when Americans like you and me may be struggling.  When literally millions of people are getting benefits at our expense while there are over 600,000 homeless Americans in this country not getting the same level of benefits, it's going to rub people the wrong way.  Let alone the neglect of the veterans of this county.  It's like the old analogy of being on an airplane and something bad happens, you have to put on your oxygen mask before you can help other people, otherwise, you won't be able to help other people.  You have to have the capacity to take care of your own first before you can take care of others.  

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9 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

They benefit, start businesses, have kids, pay taxes, etc etc. 

 

In most cases, they don't.  But again, they'll vote Dem in the hope that they can stay in the country.

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1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

In most cases, they don't.  But again, they'll vote Dem in the hope that they can stay in the country.

Totally agree.  I've worked on jobs with "people not from this country" (I'll just say it that way).  They send the majority of their money back home as the USD is stronger than their home currency.  Most don't start businesses and basically export their tax dollars to their home country essentially not contributing to the US economy.  I understand why they do it, and I don't blame them, but they are not contributing to this country.  It's just the way it is, and it's fact.

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I think roundyfuk.c should have a few "migrants" come into its home uninvited and squat.

 

She can pay their rent. He can feed them. Zir can pay their bills. They (read non-binary roundyfuk.c) can pay their (read illegals) taxes.

 

I'm sure it will all turn out as a net positive for Roundyfuk.c

 

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On 2/3/2024 at 2:28 PM, Tiberius said:

Germany's MAGA like scum proposing to round up immigrants for deportation has people standing up to them 

 

 

Do you know, for certain, that’s the reason? 
 

The guy that responded to the video says “Demonstrations against Putin’s puppets”…But who are Putin’s puppets, and what does that have to do with Germany’s immigration policy?

 

What am I missing?

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On 11/17/2023 at 9:15 AM, Tiberius said:

Even illegal immigration

 

Makes our country stronger. Look at China telling women to have more babies. Workers shortages, inflation, aging population. 

 

Ya, we are the melting pot 

Grr just grr

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33 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

Do you know, for certain, that’s the reason? 
 

The guy that responded to the video says “Demonstrations against Putin’s puppets”…But who are Putin’s puppets, and what does that have to do with Germany’s immigration policy?

 

What am I missing?

 

Putin rules the World, according to the Dems...

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