Boatdrinks Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Bogie_Klinkhammer said: No Cole Beasley You may not be far off.. first downs are now a struggle to come by . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, RiotAct said: Jets D will probably have a pretty good game against Allen and the boys, but we are gonna beat the 15-year-old-looking-MILF-lover in the rematch, and that’s all there is to it. Are you saying there's something wrong with MILFs? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 As much as it's easy to point the finger and McD/Dorsey as being the main reason for these issues. One really has to wonder what has really happened to JA17. I still think he's a top 10 NFL QB by default, but all the critics who have called him a fraud are being vindicated this season because there's simply no excuse for such wildly inconsistent play and enough anecdotal evidence is there that perhaps he is the main problem right now and is already on the downswing of what might be a very short NFL career akin to Cam Newton who many also warned as a relevant cautionary tale. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaBillsJunkie Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 7 hours ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: Who from the list below do you want over the current bills offense? Texans Chargers 6 hours ago, FilthyBeast said: As much as it's easy to point the finger and McD/Dorsey as being the main reason for these issues. One really has to wonder what has really happened to JA17. I still think he's a top 10 NFL QB by default, but all the critics who have called him a fraud are being vindicated this season because there's simply no excuse for such wildly inconsistent play and enough anecdotal evidence is there that perhaps he is the main problem right now and is already on the downswing of what might be a very short NFL career akin to Cam Newton who many also warned as a relevant cautionary tale. It's the damn Madden cover curse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 8 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I think offensive output is down throughout the nfl. Come on!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT is why there are these clear and shocking statistics, (and maybe the reason the Bills' offense has fallen off a cliff this year too?) and the fact the Bills have fallen out of playoff contention? Do your own eyes deceive you? Makes no sense at all, whistling past the graveyard... 8 hours ago, ngbills said: That is true Ditto! 6 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: You may not be far off.. first downs are now a struggle to come by . Shakir looks like him, sure handed, smooth, gets separation--so why did it take Dorsey so long to see what I and so many others saw??? And saw too late, to maybe save the season--as there are many many other things he doesn't see either it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) Downward trend is on both sides of the ball. I think the O is a much quicker fix if Beane actually puts a little more effort in this unit. The D is just aging and young players aren’t stepping up. A lot of money and draft picks continue to get used for this group but not much transition in starting lineup until injuries force players on the field. Most of the time those players aren’t ready, that’s a big coaching problem. Father Time gets everyone at some point and it’s noticeable when you watch this unit. McD holds every young player accountable for their play, when they struggle they don’t see the field. For the vets it’s the total opposite, doesn’t matter if they can’t physically get the job done as long as they have the brains to be in the right position and put in the effort. Results just don’t ***** matter when it comes to them. Edited November 7, 2023 by BananaB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 8 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: You may not be far off.. first downs are now a struggle to come by . Bills are 4th in the league in first downs/game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Bills are 4th in the league in first downs/game Recently or season to date ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: How about force a turnover once in awhile. 1 in last 5 games. Been in them games without the D forcing a turnover though man… 🤷♂️ All losses by 6 or >. That’s one TD in each loss. ONE. How bout they score some more with one of the best the league can showcase @ QB & WR. Edited November 7, 2023 by BBFL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 41 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Recently or season to date ? season and last 3 games as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 The Bills have lost 4 games where they have scored 79 points (16, 20, 25, 18). They have turned the ball over 10 times while generating 4 turnovers. Cut down on the turnovers, get back to uptempo and play more risky. If McDermott can send 6, he can certainly go for it on 4th down. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 20 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: season and last 3 games as well I’m mistaken then. Scoring definitely down so maybe just perception. Haven’t scored 30 since Miami ? Under 20 points in 2 of last 3. Something amiss with the offense- hopefully they can turn it around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Not letting the offense do what it does best is an egregious error by McDermott and Dorsey. Them saying they went away from up tempo to "try" other things on offense is a fireable offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 10 hours ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: How about force a turnover once in awhile. 1 in last 5 games. Things that help create turnovers: consistent pass rush, physicality, a lead, playmakers/timing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: I’m mistaken then. Scoring definitely down so maybe just perception. Haven’t scored 30 since Miami ? Under 20 points in 2 of last 3. Something amiss with the offense- hopefully they can turn it around. Dolphins and Chiefs offenses both under 20points 2 of their last 3 as well, Niners 3/3 it happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: Recently or season to date ? The bills still have good offensive stats compared to the league over the bad stretch of game because there will be 1-2 quarters where they are dreadful and 1-2 quarters where they are unstoppable. The Giants game is the exception. The potential is there for the offense to put it all together. We’ve seen it a few times this year. We’ve seen it for a quarter or 2 in other games. Once they figure out who they are they will be good. I think they’re getting close. It’ll be the Diggs and Kincaid show moving forward. Edited November 7, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 13 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I think offensive output is down throughout the nfl. Bottom line the Bills have regressed and are continuing to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Bottom line the Bills have regressed and are continuing to do so. Until they figure out their 2nd option on offense expect inconsistency. I think Allen is finally trusting Kincaid. Shakir also. We’ll see more consistency if that trust remains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 25 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Until they figure out their 2nd option on offense expect inconsistency. I think Allen is finally trusting Kincaid. Shakir also. We’ll see more consistency if that trust remains. It's more than that. The offensive system needs to change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: It's more than that. The offensive system needs to change. It’s the same system we’ve had since 2018. It’s not the system. Play selection, player usage, and execution of the system has changed. Edited November 7, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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