ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 The decision to kick a 53 FG when already up 4+ points knowing your kicker has been shaky and shanked another 53 yarder earlier in the game. Missing the kick would put the Giants in good field position w/ a time out to work with and ample time to dink & dunk their way down to the red zone. If McDermott would’ve punted, it would’ve placed the Giants around the 10 (who haven’t scored a TD in multiple games) and made them drive 90 yards! This decision would’ve eliminated all those Trent Edwards check downs and forced Tyrod to make multiple big plays. I’m sure the analytics would back this up all day. I know it’s irrelevant now, but the Bills are darn lucky to have escaped this game w/ a win. 8 1 4 6 20 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 You trust your great kicker. 9 2 2 19 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Just now, ChronicAndKnuckles said: The decision to kick a 53 FG when already up 4+ points knowing your kicker has been shaky and shanked another 53 yarder earlier in the game. Missing the kick would put the Giants in good field position w/ a time out to work with and ample time to dink & dunk their way down to the red zone. If McDermott would’ve punted, it would’ve placed the Giants around the 10 (who haven’t scored a TD in multiple games) and made them drive 90 yards! This decision would’ve eliminated all those Trent Edwards check downs and forced Tyrod to make multiple big plays. I’m sure the analytics would back this up all day. I know it’s irrelevant now, but the Bills are darn lucky to have escaped this game w/ a win. Agreed. If Mahomes had thrown the last pass of the game, the officials would have ripped their pants off throwing a flag 1 1 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: The decision to kick a 53 FG when already up 4+ points knowing your kicker has been shaky and shanked another 53 yarder earlier in the game. I said on 2nd down that I hoped he'd trust his defense and let Bass try it to go up 8. I stand by that and think it was the right call. 7 1 2 12 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Or you make that kick and the giants have to go 75 yards and score a td and an extra point just to tie…right decision bad result imo. Giants still had plenty of time to get down the field and one of your corners is kaiir elam 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Yes it was extremely questionable. About a 5% chance Giants drive 90 yards with 1:30. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said: Agreed. If Mahomes had thrown the last pass of the game, the officials would have ripped their pants off throwing a flag I don’t think I’ve ever seen two 50/50 pis called in a row leading to untimed downs in my life and I don’t think mahomes gets both those calls either I think that’s just as controversial if not more so than what actually ended up happening Edited October 16, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I don’t think I’ve ever seen two 50/50 pis called in a row leading to untimed downs in my life and I don’t think mahomes gets both those calls either There's no way Taron didn't interfere with Waller on that last pass. Had his back turned to the QB the whole time and hooked his left arm to prevent making the catch 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: You trust your great kicker. If you for some reason aren't trusting him earlier why start now? It was like McDermott knew something was off with our kicking unit but then changed his mind half way. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Or you make that kick and the giants have to go 75 yards and score a td and an extra point just to tie…right decision bad result imo. Giants still had plenty of time to get down the field and one of your corners is kaiir elam They would have to score a TD regardless ! Forget about the 2 point conversion. They would need to go 90 yards instead of working from damn near mid field. I thought it was absolutely idiotic. 3 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Just now, buffalo2218 said: There's no way Taron didn't interfere with Waller on that last pass. Had his back turned to the QB the whole time and hooked his left arm to prevent making the catch I don’t think Waller got the call cuz he had his hands on taron too…it was probably pi and if they didn’t get a questionable one a play earlier they probably would’ve called it 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 What happens if you get a Jets II? Highly unlikely with that field position granted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Just now, ChronicAndKnuckles said: They would have to score a TD regardless ! Forget about the 2 point conversion. They would need to go 90 yards instead of working from damn near mid field. I thought it was absolutely idiotic. They’d need to score a td to outright win rather than a td and a whole other play just to tie? Why should we just ignore that point? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said: There's no way Taron didn't interfere with Waller on that last pass. Had his back turned to the QB the whole time and hooked his left arm to prevent making the catch Absolutely. It was a crap non-call and I’d be furious if it happened against the Bills, but the refs made it rain flags on us during the London game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 I think Daboll made the biggest blunders. One was the poor time management at the end of first half to lose the FG opportunity. Then at the end of the game where he called a pass play when they were gashing the Bills on the ground. Bills escaped with a lucky win. Also, the unreliable Davis and Knox were in full force with a fumble and drop at critical times 6 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: They’d need to score a td to outright win rather than a td and a whole other play just to tie? Why should we just ignore that point? Lol Because you trust that your defense is going to hold an offense (starting a backup QB ) who hasn’t scored a TD in 10+ quarters. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Yeah, short of tackling the receiver mid end zone, I can’t see a flag coming out on a second consecutive potential game ender. You got an untimed down from the one, those flags aren’t coming out for anything less than a takedown. Just sort of an unwritten rule, and it is what it is. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: They would have to score a TD regardless ! Forget about the 2 point conversion. They would need to go 90 yards instead of working from damn near mid field. I thought it was absolutely idiotic. How many times have you seen Tyrod Taylor come from behind in a final drive? When he was Bills QB I never trusted him to come back late in the 4th quarter. However, if by some miracle he did, I'd rather try to get up by 8 rather than to give him the chance to beat me with a TD & punt with a 5 point lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: I think Daboll made the biggest blunders. One was the poor time management at the end of first half to lose the FG opportunity. Then at the end of the game where he called a pass play when they were gashing the Bills on the ground. Bills escaped with a lucky win. Also, the unreliable Davis and Knox were in full force with a fumble and drop at critical times Daboll beat himself, but we know Giants fans are going to blame the refs. 15 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: You trust your great kicker. You trust your defensive line u dolled out millions of dollars and multiple high draft picks too. You have faith in your own players and scheme. 3 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: How many times have you seen Tyrod Taylor come from behind in a final drive? When he was Bills QB I never trusted him to come back late in the 4th quarter. However, if by some miracle he did, I'd rather try to get up by 8 rather than to give him the chance to beat me with a TD & punt with a 5 point lead. I just feel like it’s a losing mentality. Punt the ball and let Rousseau and AJE cook. That’s what they were drafted so highly to do 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: I think Daboll made the biggest blunders. One was the poor time management at the end of first half to lose the FG opportunity. Then at the end of the game where he called a pass play when they were gashing the Bills on the ground. Bills escaped with a lucky win. Also, the unreliable Davis and Knox were in full force with a fumble and drop at critical times The daboll pass on 3rd and 1 near the ten yards line then proceed to kick a FG to go up 9-7 was the ball game instead of going for it on fourth Worst case you don't pick the first down up and force the bills to go 90 yards for a TD and if they do you're still down one score best case you end up forcing a punt and only need a FG to win 4 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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