Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 1 minute ago, wnyguy said: Okay let's say it's all circumstantial but there is one thing you can't deny is the video that then VP Biden bragged about in getting a Ukrainian prosecutor fired who was investigating Burisma by threatening to withhold 1 billion dollars in aid. Do you believe Biden used his political power to aid his sons business arrangement or is that just circumstantial too? He was a documented crook. The entire EU wanted him gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: He was a documented crook. The entire EU wanted him gone. Aaah so then he was charged with being a corrupt prosecutor and found guilty of these allegations? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, wnyguy said: Aaah so then he was charged with being a corrupt prosecutor and found guilty of these allegations? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/08/28/viktor-shokin-fox-interview/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted September 14, 2023 Author Share Posted September 14, 2023 37 minutes ago, wnyguy said: Lack of evidence? Open your eyes man, look at the situation without any prejudice and tell me you can't see it. He can't. Useful idiot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: He can't. Useful idiot. Why didn't the cult subpoena Hunter? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wnyguy Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 19 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/08/28/viktor-shokin-fox-interview/ Thanks for the article, I guess it's a classic case of he said-he said, but I did read it and have an open mind about it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: to me, it's all circumstantial ...Joe was around Hunter and some of his scuzzy friends. Doesn't prove he illegally profited. Bank records would do that. Do you think they might announce it, if they had them? Geez, if they impeached trump for being around scuzzy people, it would have been nonstop... Circumstantial...like the phone call impeachment? 2 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/08/28/viktor-shokin-fox-interview/ That doesn't answer the question he asked at all. Was he charged with, much less prosecuted for, corruption? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49er Fan Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 29 minutes ago, Doc said: Circumstantial...like the phone call impeachment? Uhhh, Trump himself ordered almost $400M of military aid to Ukraine to be withheld a week before the “perfect” phone call with Zelenskyy in an extortion attempt. This has never been disputed because it can’t be. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Just now, 49er Fan said: Uhhh, Trump himself ordered almost $400M of military aid to Ukraine to be withheld a week before the “perfect” phone call with Zelenskyy in an extortion attempt. This has never been disputed because it can’t be. 😂😂😂😂 So now it’s “extortion” when we don’t give taxpayer money away with no question asked? Unbelievable. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Establishment mouthpiece, David Ignatius, wrote an Op-Ed in the Post Tuesday signaling the end for Joe Biden. The deep state has spoken. Time to move on. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/09/12/biden-trump-election-step-aside/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNjk0NDkxMjAwLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNjk1ODczNTk5LCJpYXQiOjE2OTQ0OTEyMDAsImp0aSI6ImRhMTIzNzk3LWI3ZjAtNGExZC04NGZiLTYxMzI1NTQwMDdhMCIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9vcGluaW9ucy8yMDIzLzA5LzEyL2JpZGVuLXRydW1wLWVsZWN0aW9uLXN0ZXAtYXNpZGUvIn0.vm5cVGubaNB4ni3wASQKLk5Jo0327oNkfeobyiiCLno The official narrative has shifted. Next day appearing on Morning Joe where the hosts echoed the sentiment on queue. Apparently, Biden apologists here have yet to receive the memo. With Newsome saying he's not interested in 2024 and Harris being unacceptable who will the party run in his place? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: 😂😂😂😂 So now it’s “extortion” when we don’t give taxpayer money away with no question asked? Unbelievable. Trump wanted Ukraine to launch a fake investigation into Hunter... just like he wanted the DOJ to launch a fake investigation into election fraud = who benefits? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: Trump wanted Ukraine to launch a fake investigation into Hunter... just like he wanted the DOJ to launch a fake investigation into election fraud = who benefits? But facts to this point prove it wasn't fake. So swing and a miss for you. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Just now, BillStime said: Trump wanted Ukraine to launch a fake investigation into Hunter... just like he wanted the DOJ to launch a fake investigation into election fraud = who benefits? Not even close. In a private phone call to a newly elected administration of an ally nation, the US President asked that this incoming administration better look into what appears to be corruption on the part of BOTH of their predecessors. There is literally nothing wrong with that. In fact I’d expect the same from EVERY American President. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 On 9/12/2023 at 1:14 PM, BillStime said: 🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯 Well that's about par for the course i have never seen anything become of a impeachment of any POTUS since i have been on earth it's nothing but a major S**T show that winds up spending a huge amount of tax payers money for little bit of nothing in the end . Same with the Trump impeachments what was it worth not a dam thing just a s**t show even if there are any actual proof and it doesn't matter what it is they just go through the motions to show who has the biggest male appendage & nothing ever becomes of it . Same thing will happen with the indictment of Hunter on gun charges dad will pardon him & waste a bunch of money & time putting him through a trial & in the end he will say Thanks Dad your the best and another criminal will be living a life better than we could imagine . So Fettermans reaction is right in line with what will happen . OH I"M SO SCARED ... Just another political S**T show !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 20 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: But facts to this point prove it wasn't fake. So swing and a miss for you. What facts? 20 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Not even close. In a private phone call to a newly elected administration of an ally nation, the US President asked that this incoming administration better look into what appears to be corruption on the part of BOTH of their predecessors. There is literally nothing wrong with that. In fact I’d expect the same from EVERY American President. That’s cute and all but Trump could have asked his own FBI or CIA to conduct such investigations. Why didn’t he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted September 14, 2023 Author Share Posted September 14, 2023 ⬆️ Fuk.c stain? 🎯 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: ⬆️ Fuk.c stain? 🎯 Awe - Karen Psyop having a hissy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 34 minutes ago, T master said: Well that's about par for the course i have never seen anything become of a impeachment of any POTUS since i have been on earth it's nothing but a major S**T show that winds up spending a huge amount of tax payers money for little bit of nothing in the end . Same with the Trump impeachments what was it worth not a dam thing just a s**t show even if there are any actual proof and it doesn't matter what it is they just go through the motions to show who has the biggest male appendage & nothing ever becomes of it . Same thing will happen with the indictment of Hunter on gun charges dad will pardon him & waste a bunch of money & time putting him through a trial & in the end he will say Thanks Dad your the best and another criminal will be living a life better than we could imagine . So Fettermans reaction is right in line with what will happen . OH I"M SO SCARED ... Just another political S**T show !! Agree w everything but I’m not sure Biden will have to pardon his son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 This is already an all time top 3 thread title. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 3 hours ago, BillStime said: What facts? That’s cute and all but Trump could have asked his own FBI or CIA to conduct such investigations. Why didn’t he? That’s not what those agencies do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted September 15, 2023 Author Share Posted September 15, 2023 Nothing is more hilarious than useful idiots referring to "Trumps FBI and CIA" Do they mean the same intelligence agencies that Schumer said have "six ways from Sunday at getting back at you" (Trump)? Do they mean the very same FBI that spied on Trumps campaign? Yeah Trump had those agencies right in his back pocket to do his bidding.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49er Fan Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 4 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: 😂😂😂😂 So now it’s “extortion” when we don’t give taxpayer money away with no question asked? Unbelievable. It’s always been extortion, you’ve just never heard it because you watch Newsmax. The military aid was appropriated and approved by Congress. Clearly you know nothing about how any of this works. 5 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Nothing is more hilarious than useful idiots referring to "Trumps FBI and CIA" Do they mean the same intelligence agencies that Schumer said have "six ways from Sunday at getting back at you" (Trump)? Do they mean the very same FBI that spied on Trumps campaign? Yeah Trump had those agencies right in his back pocket to do his bidding.... Who appointed the heads of those agencies when Trump was president? Who fired James Comey because he wasn’t “loyal” enough to Trump? Hint: It was Trump. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 27 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: That’s not what those agencies do. That’s EXACTLY what those agencies do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 4 hours ago, 49er Fan said: Uhhh, Trump himself ordered almost $400M of military aid to Ukraine to be withheld a week before the “perfect” phone call with Zelenskyy in an extortion attempt. This has never been disputed because it can’t be. Yeah and Joke extorted Ukraine to fire a prosecutor he claimed was corrupt but was never charged with it, much less convicted, before he would give them $1B. And the prosecutor was investigating the company that had his son on the board, for no reason other than accessibility to do exactly what he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Yeah and Joke extorted Ukraine to fire a prosecutor he claimed was corrupt but was never charged with it, much less convicted, before he would give them $1B. And the prosecutor was investigating the company that had his son on the board, for no reason other than accessibility to do exactly what he did. he did? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, BillStime said: That’s EXACTLY what those agencies do. No it isn’t! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: No it isn’t! Please educate us with citations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 4 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: But facts to this point prove it wasn't fake. So swing and a miss for you. what facts? be specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Please educate us with citations. You believe it’s the job of the FBI to conduct investigations into corruption inside foreign countries? Ally countries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: or CIA to conduct such investigations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 20 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: No it isn’t! What do they do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said: Answer my question. You believe the President of a sovereign ally nation is going to be open to having the FBI snooping around inside his own government making accusations of corruption? Sure! Just now, BillStime said: What do they do? See my response above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 Just now, SoCal Deek said: Answer my question. You believe the President of a sovereign ally nation is going to be open to having the FBI snooping around inside his own government making accusations of corruption? Sure! See my response above. what do they do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 Meanwhile. . . . . . . . . . at the impeachment thread. The best part of this exchange is that he gets this reporter to admit that there’s evidence of wrongdoing, at least enough to warrant an inquiry: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 1 minute ago, BillStime said: what do they do Well we know they spy on the Trump campaign. That we know for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Well we know they spy on the Trump campaign. That we know for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 18 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Answer my question. You believe the President of a sovereign ally nation is going to be open to having the FBI snooping around inside his own government making accusations of corruption? Sure! if I'm understanding your question, yes, trump's FBI would do what he requested or he fired them. Hell, he got the secret service to delete emails and try to mislead pence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49er Fan Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 51 minutes ago, Doc said: Yeah and Joke extorted Ukraine to fire a prosecutor he claimed was corrupt but was never charged with it, much less convicted, before he would give them $1B. And the prosecutor was investigating the company that had his son on the board, for no reason other than accessibility to do exactly what he did. How many times are you going to post that garbage? For the millionth time, Burisma was not under scrutiny at the time Biden called for Shokin to be removed, per the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine, an independent agency that has worked closely with the FBI. In 2014, Shokin had investigated Burisma for money laundering and tax irregularities. The probe focused on 2010-12, according to the National Anti-Corruption Bureau. Hunter Biden — who joined the board in 2014 and served on it until early 2019 — was not the subject of the investigation. You’re just a stupid liar. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, 49er Fan said: How many times are you going to post that garbage? For the millionth time, Burisma was not under scrutiny at the time Biden called for Shokin to be removed, per the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine, an independent agency that has worked closely with the FBI. In 2014, Shokin had investigated Burisma for money laundering and tax irregularities. The probe focused on 2010-12, according to the National Anti-Corruption Bureau. Hunter Biden — who joined the board in 2014 and served on it until early 2019 — was not the subject of the investigation. You’re just a stupid liar. Right. The State Department said that the money should be released without condition because Ukraine was holding up their end of the bargain and most importantly, Shokin was never charged with corruption, much less convicted. So Joke lied about why he fired Shokin. Care to guess why, simp? Edited September 15, 2023 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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