\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 https://nypost.com/2023/08/17/man-jumps-to-his-death-from-roof-of-nycs-ritzy-mandarin-oriental-hotel/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 I saw a guy jump off a building once. Not a pretty sight. Nor was it a pretty sound when he hit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Irv said: I saw a guy jump off a building once. Not a pretty sight. Nor was it a pretty sound when he hit. You are right about that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: You are right about that. The poor bastards that have to clean it up. Has to be horrible job. The one I saw, there was nothing reported in the news about it. I think the media tries not to draw attention to suicides. I'm surprised to see this one reported and so graphically. Edited August 18, 2023 by Irv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LeGOATski Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Irv said: The poor bastards that have to clean it up. Has to be horrible job. The one I saw, there was nothing reported in the news about it. I think the media tries not to draw attention to suicides. I'm surprised to see this one reported and so graphically. I think the amount of attention it gets just depends on the context. Media reports on suicides all the time if there's anything notable about them. In this case, super well known high rise in NYC where well known celebrities have lived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 55 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: I think the amount of attention it gets just depends on the context. Media reports on suicides all the time if there's anything notable about them. In this case, super well known high rise in NYC where well known celebrities have lived. IDK. Don't you think "his body split in half" and "an arm was found across the street, where construction scaffolding was seen dripping with blood" isn't a little extreme? What if this guy had younger kids? Seems pretty heartless and unnecessary reporting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, Irv said: IDK. Don't you think "his body split in half" and "an arm was found across the street, where construction scaffolding was seen dripping with blood" isn't a little extreme? What if this guy had younger kids? Seems pretty heartless and unnecessary reporting. Yeah, definitely. My post obviously wasn't centred on that, though, as I clearly talked about the attention. I was responding to "I think the media tries not to draw attention to suicides. I'm surprised to see this one reported..." It's even less surprising when consider it's the NY Post, which is more akin to a tabloid than a normal newspaper. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Well, this sure was fun. I think I’ll……go somewhere else now and just be thankful I didn’t click. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 The dude who jumped off buffalos downtown building impaling himself on the flag pole and living for a few hours outdid him, tho. Gruesome photos of that out there. People actually came from around town to see that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 I clicked on this thread because when I saw "Yuck" I thought of the indie rock band. I know them personally. Mariko is Japanese. The afro hair guy drummer is the nicest guy ever. The guitarist was super sweet. The lead singer was pretty full of himself kind of douchey. They were on a worldwide tour with my sons band in Australia/ New Zealand approx 12 years ago Im too chicken to click the OP thread link I dont do well with graphic SPLAT violence just sayin'-m 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Sounds like a badly torn UCL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, Gugny said: Sounds like a badly torn UCL. I’ve gotta think that would do both of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 4:19 PM, Irv said: IDK. Don't you think "his body split in half" and "an arm was found across the street, where construction scaffolding was seen dripping with blood" isn't a little extreme? What if this guy had younger kids? Seems pretty heartless and unnecessary reporting. You expect the news to care more about the kids than the Dad did? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: You expect the news to care more about the kids than the Dad did? Yes. I do. Do you give *****? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 7 hours ago, Irv said: Yes. I do. Do you give *****? Yes, I care about the kids. I feel awful that this guys was so lost on life that he did something so selfish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 In J-school, the ethics of reporting on it was that public suicides like this are fair game for coverage… bc quite a lot of people saw it. The case study then was the government official accused of embezzlement in Philly iirc who called a news conference and shot himself in the head on air at the podium. To not mention it at all is a whitewash to something that happened so publicly. That they published graphic description and so many photos including a lot of the sheet-draped remains? Yeah, that is *quite* tough to defend… but I’m also betting the story got a lot of clicks for the same reason people slow down and look over at accident scenes #rubbernecking. Suicide where it was done privately is generally not reported unless the person was a public figure, and even then is not accompanied by scene photos… but for some true rags like NYP it may have less to do with decency and more that they don’t have access to the scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 19 minutes ago, UConn James said: In J-school, the ethics of reporting on it was that public suicides like this are fair game for coverage… bc quite a lot of people saw it. The case study then was the government official accused of embezzlement in Philly iirc who called a news conference and shot himself in the head on air at the podium. To not mention it at all is a whitewash to something that happened so publicly. That they published graphic description and so many photos including a lot of the sheet-draped remains? Yeah, that is *quite* tough to defend… but I’m also betting the story got a lot of clicks for the same reason people slow down and look over at accident scenes #rubbernecking. Suicide where it was done privately is generally not reported unless the person was a public figure, and even then is not accompanied by scene photos… but for some true rags like NYP it may have less to do with decency and more that they don’t have access to the scene. The case in point was a politically targeted attack against the PA dude it is argued. It was a really messed up situation The video is on the Internet if anyone wants to see it. There is also video of a newswoman using a pistol to the temple live on the news during broadcast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 20 minutes ago, boyst said: The case in point was a politically targeted attack against the PA dude it is argued. It was a really messed up situation The video is on the Internet if anyone wants to see it. There is also video of a newswoman using a pistol to the temple live on the news during broadcast. Her co-anchor was a guy that was on TV in Buffalo before that. I believe that was in Miami. tHe guy used to be on WGR. Cn't remember his name. Happened in the 80s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 9:05 PM, boyst said: The dude who jumped off buffalos downtown building impaling himself on the flag pole and living for a few hours outdid him, tho. Gruesome photos of that out there. People actually came from around town to see that. The dude was a teen (17 or 18) and he died instantly. It took a few hours to cut him down. My cousin had business downtown and saw him on the pole. His parents wanted to sue the city because they claimed someone had thrown him off. The observation deck has waist high stone walls with 8 ft high glass mounted on top with the top angled back in towards the building. Impossible to toss someone off it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 7 hours ago, boyst said: The case in point was a politically targeted attack against the PA dude it is argued. It was a really messed up situation The video is on the Internet if anyone wants to see it. There is also video of a newswoman using a pistol to the temple live on the news during broadcast. Just looked it up… Bill Dwyer was in the Penn. State House and had been found guilty a few months prior of a bunch of racketeering, bribery, perjury, conspiracy charges about taking money to award a contract to an auditing firm in California. He was to be sentenced the next day. Some say that the hounding of the press drove him to it, but 🤷🏻♂️. That was a lengthy sentence coming his way and his life was basically over so he probably would’ve have done it anyway, but maybe in a different, private way. News can’t / shouldn’t let a guy off easy there’s a chance of whatever. But if it hadn’t happened how he did so publicly, I imagine the coverage would have been quite different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 31 minutes ago, UConn James said: Just looked it up… Bill Dwyer was in the Penn. State House and had been found guilty a few months prior of a bunch of racketeering, bribery, perjury, conspiracy charges about taking money to award a contract to an auditing firm in California. He was to be sentenced the next day. Some say that the hounding of the press drove him to it, but 🤷🏻♂️. That was a lengthy sentence coming his way and his life was basically over so he probably would’ve have done it anyway, but maybe in a different, private way. News can’t / shouldn’t let a guy off easy there’s a chance of whatever. But if it hadn’t happened how he did so publicly, I imagine the coverage would have been quite different. There was some speculation I've seen where it was obvious he was over sentenced and made an example of compared to other crimes and events of the time. Some political recourse, essentially. I'm all for the politicians being held accountable for their *****ups but the guy got a LOT of time in the 80s when sentences were usually more lax than we know. Especially white collar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 12:13 PM, Irv said: The poor bastards that have to clean it up. Has to be horrible job. The one I saw, there was nothing reported in the news about it. I think the media tries not to draw attention to suicides. I'm surprised to see this one reported and so graphically. Had a friend that cleaned up this stuff in Chicago during a few summers in college. Money was stupid good in the day. After a few weeks along puking at everything, he says by the end of the summer he was eating a sandwich sweeping up brains. guess you can get used to about most anything after a while On 8/18/2023 at 12:13 PM, Irv said: The poor bastards that have to clean it up. Has to be horrible job. The one I saw, there was nothing reported in the news about it. I think the media tries not to draw attention to suicides. I'm surprised to see this one reported and so graphically. Had a friend that cleaned up this stuff in Chicago during a few summers in college. Money was stupid good in the day. After a few weeks along puking at everything, he says by the end of the summer he was eating a sandwich sweeping up brains. guess you can get used to about most anything after a while On 8/18/2023 at 12:13 PM, Irv said: The poor bastards that have to clean it up. Has to be horrible job. The one I saw, there was nothing reported in the news about it. I think the media tries not to draw attention to suicides. I'm surprised to see this one reported and so graphically. Had a friend that cleaned up this stuff in Chicago during a few summers in college. Money was stupid good in the day. After a few weeks along puking at everything, he says by the end of the summer he was eating a sandwich sweeping up brains. guess you can get used to about most anything after a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) On 8/21/2023 at 12:20 PM, Wacka said: The dude was a teen (17 or 18) and he died instantly. It took a few hours to cut him down. My cousin had business downtown and saw him on the pole. His parents wanted to sue the city because they claimed someone had thrown him off. The observation deck has waist high stone walls with 8 ft high glass mounted on top with the top angled back in towards the building. Impossible to toss someone off it. They cut the pole so as to slide the guy off the pole Edited September 5, 2023 by MarkyMannn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k2mountain Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 9:05 PM, boyst said: The dude who jumped off buffalos downtown building impaling himself on the flag pole and living for a few hours outdid him, tho. Gruesome photos of that out there. People actually came from around town to see that. Yes. This is a true and gory story. I remember it. It was 1976, City Hall. I found a picture of it on Google Images, but I'm not posting it. I don't know the rules around here regarding that type of gore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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