stevestojan Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 This is absolute nightmare fuel. I couldn’t imagine many worse ways to go. At this point, I’m hoping the thing just cracked and the end was quick for these 5. However I’ve read that of all the ways the thing was duct taped together, the hull was one thing that wouldn’t fail. Also, was watching an interview with a guy who had been on this death trap last year. He said it wasn’t uncommon to lose communication for 2-3 hours at a clip. So he said that it was likely many many hours before anyone called the coast guard or for any other help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, stevestojan said: This is absolute nightmare fuel. I couldn’t imagine many worse ways to go. At this point, I’m hoping the thing just cracked and the end was quick for these 5. However I’ve read that of all the ways the thing was duct taped together, the hull was one thing that wouldn’t fail. Also, was watching an interview with a guy who had been on this death trap last year. He said it wasn’t uncommon to lose communication for 2-3 hours at a clip. So he said that it was likely many many hours before anyone called the coast guard or for any other help. It could be buoyant near the surface. They have no way to get out. If you think this a nightmare, how about the 3 sailors alive on the USS West Virginia after Pearl Harbor. They stayed alive for 16 days judging from the calendar they made. They probably heard rescuers all the time. Sorry for the lack of empathy... I can't believe they were so complacent. At least it will be quick for these guys... Edited June 21, 2023 by ExiledInIllinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Take a look. I betcha it's these cluster of vessels that are working the area: https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-59.0/centery:41.7/zoom:8 Or maybe not... lol Out there somewhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Further east. A stopped vessel in the middle of nowhere. Seems to be the proper angle off of St.John's NF/LAB: https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-49.8/centery:41.6/zoom:7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 If this tourist craft Is found in time This story goes straight to Hollywood movie production. The script would literally write itself. Even if not found in time this story has the creep factor all over it. A mean gnarly Horror film instead. I would like to know one way or the other what did happen in the end. But I may need to learn with disappointment. 😙 We may never know. Having a black box aboard such craft is such a no brainer really it's amazing they never thought of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 I understand they also wouldn’t want to exit the vehicle underwater, nor could they with the pressure. But something about literally being bolted in from the outside adds to the terror of this for me. And, if the thing just used buoyancy and ended up breaking the surface, I assume that it doesn’t let air in at that point and still needs the bolts removed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 I hope they're found alive. And if they are, please keep them away from all rational people. From the Owner, Captain, to the passengers they clearly all lack any hint of sound judgement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 4 hours ago, stevestojan said: I understand they also wouldn’t want to exit the vehicle underwater, nor could they with the pressure. But something about literally being bolted in from the outside adds to the terror of this for me. And, if the thing just used buoyancy and ended up breaking the surface, I assume that it doesn’t let air in at that point and still needs the bolts removed? Yeah. The integrity (of hull) has to be maintained. Gotta just accept, it's a death trap. This one is going 13,000 feet. Military submarines go only like 1,500 feet... Not sure where I heard that. Update: They supposedly are picking up noises in the water... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Can't bring myself to care about these rich idiots when 600+ migrants just drowned after their boat capsized in the Mediterranean sorry not sorry 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 19 hours ago, muppy said: this thread reeks of morbid thoughts EEEEK what a tragic ridiculous reckless story. Ive read this thread. It's giving me the creeps just sayin' I dont like to think about someone suffering this. mistake. BIG. Lord have mercy. Yeah it's interesting to me who we mock and who we don't when FAFO things happen. Even if we accept the premise that these folks are stupid and entitled they're still far less worthy of mockery than certain individuals in the last several years who had highly-publicized deaths and were instead rewarded with ivory or gold caskets and thousands of public mourners. Then of course there's the war porn constantly strewn about the internet over the last year; people clapping like seals over men being turned into ground meat on thermal cameras. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 2 hours ago, LeviF said: Yeah it's interesting to me who we mock and who we don't when FAFO things happen. Even if we accept the premise that these folks are stupid and entitled they're still far less worthy of mockery than certain individuals in the last several years who had highly-publicized deaths and were instead rewarded with ivory or gold caskets and thousands of public mourners. Then of course there's the war porn constantly strewn about the internet over the last year; people clapping like seals over men being turned into ground meat on thermal cameras. this event is one more bit of drama and indeed even Trauma on top of all else we see that is wrong with the world. And that we are exposed to in news media on the daily. I don't applaud anybodies trauma. And these thrill seekers were out there looking for an adventure NOT death. It sucks really. It's unfortunate. And Hopefully these endeavors will be done more safely or not at all in the future. blech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 3 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Yeah. The integrity (of hull) has to be maintained. Gotta just accept, it's a death trap. This one is going 13,000 feet. Military submarines go only like 1,500 feet... Not sure where I heard that. Update: They supposedly are picking up noises in the water... From what seem to be expert posts in the field (who knows on the interwebs) I’ve seen a few posts about readings from the window where it disappeared there was a likely implosion picked up, and the current noises are likely normal day to day stuff 15 minutes ago, muppy said: this event is one more bit of drama and indeed even Trauma on top of all else we see that is wrong with the world. And that we are exposed to in news media on the daily. I don't applaud anybodies trauma. And these thrill seekers were out there looking for an adventure NOT death. It sucks really. It's unfortunate. And Hopefully these endeavors will be done more safely or not at all in the future. blech. honestly, as long as everyone knows the risks going in, I’m fine with risk taking… but should come with a preface of adequate insurance coverage to cover rescue costs or if funded by tax expense minimal search/rescue on the back end… as morbid as that sounds 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 55 minutes ago, NoSaint said: From what seem to be expert posts in the field (who knows on the interwebs) I’ve seen a few posts about readings from the window where it disappeared there was a likely implosion picked up, and the current noises are likely normal day to day stuff honestly, as long as everyone knows the risks going in, I’m fine with risk taking… but should come with a preface of adequate insurance coverage to cover rescue costs or if funded by tax expense minimal search/rescue on the back end… as morbid as that sounds Agree... If you read about the USS Thresher... First nuclear submarine of ours to be lost... They were picking up weird sounds... But ruled it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) Legitimately the most terrifying thing I’ve ever heard in my life. I go into an existential crisis anytime I try to imagine what they’re going through. As someone above said … nightmare fuel. Listening to a Twitter space on this and it sounds like they have about 9 hours and 30 minutes left of air. …it would likely take about 8 hours to get it to the surface (allegedly) 5 hours ago, GoBills808 said: Can't bring myself to care about these rich idiots when 600+ migrants just drowned after their boat capsized in the Mediterranean sorry not sorry What if I told you that you can not be a ghoul and care about both… Edited June 22, 2023 by SCBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, GoBills808 said: Can't bring myself to care about these rich idiots If they were just regular idiots and not rich would you care? Edited June 22, 2023 by 4merper4mer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 25 minutes ago, SCBills said: Legitimately the most terrifying thing I’ve ever heard in my life. I go into an existential crisis anytime I try to imagine what they’re going through. As someone above said … nightmare fuel. Listening to a Twitter space on this and it sounds like they have about 9 hours and 30 minutes left of air. …it would likely take about 8 hours to get it to the surface (allegedly) What if I told you that you can not be a ghoul and care about both… and even that is best case scenario on the air. Short of finding them floating on the surface, it’s over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 19 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: If they were just regular idiots and not rich would you care? Play stupid games win stupid prizes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 20 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Play stupid games win stupid prizes Some people have a sense of adventure and, if they have the means, want to experience things. Our culture has made us so bitter and docile. Don’t worry .. you can go watch your footage of the titanic on YouTube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, SCBills said: Some people have a sense of adventure and, if they have the means, want to experience things. Our culture has made us so bitter and docile. Don’t worry .. you can go watch your footage of the titanic on YouTube. lol yeah that's me, the bitter docile ghoul on youtube you, however, are surely wanting to conserve that energy as you participate in the rescue effort. ill send you my thoughts and prayers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 31 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Play stupid games win stupid prizes And the 600 migrants you mentioned were being smart? Did they deserve their prize too? No one should be able to force you to think or not think in a certain way. It seems you’re taking glee in some peoples horrific death because they were rich. That’s your prerogative. It’s my prerogative to find that pathetic and sad…..which I do. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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