Kemp Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: This may be true….or not….but if so then wouldn’t a court rule that he cannot RUN for President? That's what the article is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Kemp said: Trumpers thumping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: This may be true….or not….but if so then wouldn’t a court rule that he cannot RUN for President? Seems unlikely to me. The Constitution sets the requirements for president and I personally don’t think the charges Trump is currently facing rise to the 14th Amendment’s disqualification clause. Maybe if he ends up being charged with incitement to insurrection but I remain unconvinced that Jack Smith will bring that charge. Also, there’s a really weird and unsettled debate as to whether the President is an “officer of the United States.” So it’s not sure that clause can apply to the president at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 7 hours ago, Kemp said: Nobody knows for sure if Trump can control himself when faced with imprisonment. I’m gonna go with he’s not gonna be able to control himself because he know that these judges won’t jail him The real question is whenever he starts outing people that are going to testify against him, and they start getting death threats then what 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I’m gonna go with he’s not gonna be able to control himself because he know that these judges won’t jail him The real question is whenever he starts outing people that are going to testify against him, and they start getting death threats then what The FBI executes them? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 5 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I’m gonna go with he’s not gonna be able to control himself because he know that these judges won’t jail him The real question is whenever he starts outing people that are going to testify against him, and they start getting death threats then what If he does that, he's going to jail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 6 hours ago, TSOL said: The FBI executes them? Executes the judges? The witnesses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 8 hours ago, ChiGoose said: Seems unlikely to me. The Constitution sets the requirements for president and I personally don’t think the charges Trump is currently facing rise to the 14th Amendment’s disqualification clause. Maybe if he ends up being charged with incitement to insurrection but I remain unconvinced that Jack Smith will bring that charge. Also, there’s a really weird and unsettled debate as to whether the President is an “officer of the United States.” So it’s not sure that clause can apply to the president at all. Thanks Goose (honestly) So in short, it’s going to be a real clown show. But, I thought Smith already brought his charges. Was incitement one of them? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 17 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Thanks Goose (honestly) So in short, it’s going to be a real clown show. But, I thought Smith already brought his charges. Was incitement one of them? Smith has brought charges and they do not include incitement. That doesn’t preclude him from bringing more charges though. I still think there’s a decent chance he charges wire fraud but I would be surprised by an incitement charge because it’d be so much harder to prove than the charges he’s already brought. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 16 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Smith has brought charges and they do not include incitement. That doesn’t preclude him from bringing more charges though. I still think there’s a decent chance he charges wire fraud but I would be surprised by an incitement charge because it’d be so much harder to prove than the charges he’s already brought. What’s the wire fraud charge about? I have to admit I don’t know that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 Real big surprise, eh? Judge Cannon is compromised. https://accountable.us/judge-cannon-gifted-luxury-trip-by-leo-backed-scalia-law-school/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: What’s the wire fraud charge about? I have to admit I don’t know that one. So far, there is no wire fraud charge. I’m just guessing there might be in the future based on what we know. Trump has a PAC he set up to challenge the 2020 election and received tens of millions of dollars in donations. He seems to have been using that money for other things including paying for his personal attorneys. If he was using the money for things other than what the PAC’s stated purpose was, that would mean that he was inducing people to give him money under fraudulent pretenses. This is what Steve Bannon and the “Build the Wall PAC” people got in trouble for. From what we can tell, the Special Counsel has been asking witnesses about the PAC, so it’s on Smith’s radar. So I guess the questions are: was Trump a careful steward of other people’s money? If not, is there enough evidence to prove he wasn’t? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) @ChiGoose wire fraud! Deranged indeed 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: What’s the wire fraud charge about? I have to admit I don’t know that one. Something the King learned about from his masters of course. Edited August 12, 2023 by BillsFanNC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Meadows is going to be key imo. If he's agreed to testify, I wonder if he'll be given protection... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) Who needs the babylon bee anyway? We've got @ChiGoose and @redtail hawk with their serious legal analysis keeping us entertained. Edited August 12, 2023 by BillsFanNC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Only the best 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Good little marxist... Just like.... @ChiGoose @redtail hawk @The Frankish Reich @BillStime Et al.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 45 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Good little marxist... Just like.... @ChiGoose @redtail hawk @The Frankish Reich @BillStime Et al.. I love that the lady who said the cops who testified at J6 were crisis actors remains your go-to gal. Is Sidney your go-to legal expert? Or do you prefer the guy who puts shoe polish in his hair? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) Wannabe cult leader spouts Benito Gaetz: "I cannot stand these people that are destroying our country ... we know that only through force can we make any change in a corrupt town like Washington DC" The Law and Order Party Strikes Again. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited August 12, 2023 by Kemp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts