Kemp Posted August 12, 2023 Author Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 12:47 AM, SoCal Deek said: This may be true….or not….but if so then wouldn’t a court rule that he cannot RUN for President? Expand That's what the article is about.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 12, 2023 Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 12:04 AM, Kemp said: Trumpers thumping Expand
ChiGoose Posted August 12, 2023 Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 12:47 AM, SoCal Deek said: This may be true….or not….but if so then wouldn’t a court rule that he cannot RUN for President? Expand Seems unlikely to me. The Constitution sets the requirements for president and I personally don’t think the charges Trump is currently facing rise to the 14th Amendment’s disqualification clause. Maybe if he ends up being charged with incitement to insurrection but I remain unconvinced that Jack Smith will bring that charge. Also, there’s a really weird and unsettled debate as to whether the President is an “officer of the United States.” So it’s not sure that clause can apply to the president at all. 1
John from Riverside Posted August 12, 2023 Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/11/2023 at 8:03 PM, Kemp said: Nobody knows for sure if Trump can control himself when faced with imprisonment. Expand I’m gonna go with he’s not gonna be able to control himself because he know that these judges won’t jail him The real question is whenever he starts outing people that are going to testify against him, and they start getting death threats then what 1
TSOL Posted August 12, 2023 Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 3:58 AM, John from Riverside said: I’m gonna go with he’s not gonna be able to control himself because he know that these judges won’t jail him The real question is whenever he starts outing people that are going to testify against him, and they start getting death threats then what Expand The FBI executes them? 1 1
Kemp Posted August 12, 2023 Author Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 3:58 AM, John from Riverside said: I’m gonna go with he’s not gonna be able to control himself because he know that these judges won’t jail him The real question is whenever he starts outing people that are going to testify against him, and they start getting death threats then what Expand If he does that, he's going to jail. 1
Kemp Posted August 12, 2023 Author Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 4:07 AM, TSOL said: The FBI executes them? Expand Executes the judges? The witnesses?
SoCal Deek Posted August 12, 2023 Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 3:54 AM, ChiGoose said: Seems unlikely to me. The Constitution sets the requirements for president and I personally don’t think the charges Trump is currently facing rise to the 14th Amendment’s disqualification clause. Maybe if he ends up being charged with incitement to insurrection but I remain unconvinced that Jack Smith will bring that charge. Also, there’s a really weird and unsettled debate as to whether the President is an “officer of the United States.” So it’s not sure that clause can apply to the president at all. Expand Thanks Goose (honestly) So in short, it’s going to be a real clown show. But, I thought Smith already brought his charges. Was incitement one of them? 1
ChiGoose Posted August 12, 2023 Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 12:38 PM, SoCal Deek said: Thanks Goose (honestly) So in short, it’s going to be a real clown show. But, I thought Smith already brought his charges. Was incitement one of them? Expand Smith has brought charges and they do not include incitement. That doesn’t preclude him from bringing more charges though. I still think there’s a decent chance he charges wire fraud but I would be surprised by an incitement charge because it’d be so much harder to prove than the charges he’s already brought. 1 1 1
SoCal Deek Posted August 12, 2023 Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 12:58 PM, ChiGoose said: Smith has brought charges and they do not include incitement. That doesn’t preclude him from bringing more charges though. I still think there’s a decent chance he charges wire fraud but I would be surprised by an incitement charge because it’d be so much harder to prove than the charges he’s already brought. Expand What’s the wire fraud charge about? I have to admit I don’t know that one.
Kemp Posted August 12, 2023 Author Posted August 12, 2023 Real big surprise, eh? Judge Cannon is compromised. https://accountable.us/judge-cannon-gifted-luxury-trip-by-leo-backed-scalia-law-school/ 1
ChiGoose Posted August 12, 2023 Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 1:14 PM, SoCal Deek said: What’s the wire fraud charge about? I have to admit I don’t know that one. Expand So far, there is no wire fraud charge. I’m just guessing there might be in the future based on what we know. Trump has a PAC he set up to challenge the 2020 election and received tens of millions of dollars in donations. He seems to have been using that money for other things including paying for his personal attorneys. If he was using the money for things other than what the PAC’s stated purpose was, that would mean that he was inducing people to give him money under fraudulent pretenses. This is what Steve Bannon and the “Build the Wall PAC” people got in trouble for. From what we can tell, the Special Counsel has been asking witnesses about the PAC, so it’s on Smith’s radar. So I guess the questions are: was Trump a careful steward of other people’s money? If not, is there enough evidence to prove he wasn’t? 1 1
BillsFanNC Posted August 12, 2023 Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) @ChiGoose wire fraud! Deranged indeed On 8/12/2023 at 1:14 PM, SoCal Deek said: What’s the wire fraud charge about? I have to admit I don’t know that one. Expand Something the King learned about from his masters of course. Edited August 12, 2023 by BillsFanNC
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 12, 2023 Posted August 12, 2023 Meadows is going to be key imo. If he's agreed to testify, I wonder if he'll be given protection...
BillsFanNC Posted August 12, 2023 Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) Who needs the babylon bee anyway? We've got @ChiGoose and @redtail hawk with their serious legal analysis keeping us entertained. Edited August 12, 2023 by BillsFanNC
BillsFanNC Posted August 12, 2023 Posted August 12, 2023 Good little marxist... Just like.... @ChiGoose @redtail hawk @The Frankish Reich @BillStime Et al..
Kemp Posted August 12, 2023 Author Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 9:11 PM, BillsFanNC said: Good little marxist... Just like.... @ChiGoose @redtail hawk @The Frankish Reich @BillStime Et al.. Expand I love that the lady who said the cops who testified at J6 were crisis actors remains your go-to gal. Is Sidney your go-to legal expert? Or do you prefer the guy who puts shoe polish in his hair? 1
Kemp Posted August 12, 2023 Author Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) Wannabe cult leader spouts Benito Gaetz: "I cannot stand these people that are destroying our country ... we know that only through force can we make any change in a corrupt town like Washington DC" The Law and Order Party Strikes Again. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited August 12, 2023 by Kemp
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