John from Riverside Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Just now, ScottLaw said: The line has been bad since AFC championship game 2020… Beane continues to patch it together with questionable additions while Chiefs/Bengals go no doubter signings…. The problem(and one that continues) is McBeane love their own defensive guys way too much and do what a lot to keep them together…. The same guys who get their ***** blown off every year in the playoffs. Translation, do you think the name on the back of the jersey is more important than their actual production on the field? Point in case Kansas City, just let go of their left tackle and allowed him to sign somewhere else 1 minute ago, JohnNord said: I agree McGovern will be better than Saffold, but again this move pales in comparison to how KC and CIN attempted to address their OL. I would have liked a better player at guard like Seumalo or Powers. Brown is just not very good. I think the Bills are putting too much hope in him. You mentioned “drafting competition,” like who? Tommy Doyle? We’ll see what the final OL room looks like, but without investing significant resources on the OL, you end up with a unit like last season Brown is what is recovering from a back injury We should draft competition for him. No one is saying we should go into the season with Tommy Doyle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Brown looks like the kind of guy who will coast once he gets the big money deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 24 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Not sure McBeane will ever see it this way. Exactly. Not with McD ultimately running the organization. Defense will always come first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottLaw Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Translation, do you think the name on the back of the jersey is more important than their actual production on the field? Point in case Kansas City, just let go of their left tackle and allowed him to sign somewhere else Brown is what is recovering from a back injury We should draft competition for him. No one is saying we should go into the season with Tommy Doyle. Translation: I’m a homer. 2 minutes ago, Billznut said: Exactly. Not with McD ultimately running the organization. Defense will always come first. And special teams… then offense Edited March 16 by ScottLaw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 23 minutes ago, arcane said: Brown sucks Darnell Walker would look good competing for his starting position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 6 minutes ago, CDogg20 said: Lots of Chiefs fans seem very happy to have this kid gone. Most things i’m reading go along the lines of “this kid had Mahomes running for his life, only good game was the SB” on the flip side I see lots of Bengal fans saying “still better than anything we’ve had for a while” So they're like our fans once a player leaves and hates on the guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 3 minutes ago, Billznut said: Exactly. Not with McD ultimately running the organization. Defense will always come first. There’s only one way to fix that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Bengals spending to surround Joe Burrow at the expense of defense. Complete opposite of the Bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 22 minutes ago, CDogg20 said: The sad thing is, that’s debatable 🤣 I do like Morse but am sooo glad Saffold is gone. Bates should be first man off the bench in my opinion. I’m hoping we have a wood levitre type draft though. I actually think they’d like Bates off the bench. The problem is they paid him a starter’s contract to keep him on the team. So either he has to be really bad that he gets benched or Ike Boettger has to be really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 (edited) 16 minutes ago, CDogg20 said: Lots of Chiefs fans seem very happy to have this kid gone. Most things i’m reading go along the lines of “this kid had Mahomes running for his life, only good game was the SB” Chiefs fans are delusional about Orlando Brown. A Chiefs fan that likes to troll on here said the Chiefs had "one of the worst starting tackle duos in the NFL." No clue what they're watching. He's a great player. What happens sometimes is Mahomes drifts back in the pocket which makes it harder for his tackles to wash their pass rusher out of the play. And I guess Chiefs fans blame Orlando Brown for that? Anyways, Burrow won't have this problem. The Bengals may have just a turned a weakness of their offense into a strength. Edited March 16 by HappyDays 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 15 minutes ago, JohnNord said: We think alike. My problem is that unlike CIN and KC who proactively put a lot of resources in their crappy OL’s, the Bills seem content to hope that last years line will get better. Replacing Saffold for McGovern should help but is that really enough? And does anyone actually think Spencer Brown is suddenly going to be a great RT after two largely below average seasons? I'd like to see competition for Mitch Morse spot too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Translational: I’m a homer. And special teams… then offense Excuse me, but 1 Orlando Brown can buy you a Tyler Matakevich, Siran Neal, Deonte Harty and Connor McGovern. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcane Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 4 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Darnell Walker would look good competing for his starting position I mean orlando Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Translation, do you think the name on the back of the jersey is more important than their actual production on the field? Point in case Kansas City, just let go of their left tackle and allowed him to sign somewhere else Brown is what is recovering from a back injury We should draft competition for him. No one is saying we should go into the season with Tommy Doyle. I’m bringing up Tommy Doyle because that’s usually the level of play you can expect from a mid-round rookie draft pick. Do you really think that a rookie tackle is going to be the type of player that pushes Brown? Unless he’s a first round draft pick… I don’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottLaw Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Excuse me, but 1 Orlando Brown can buy you a Tyler Matakevich, Siran Neal, Deonte Harty and Connor McGovern. Insane… and sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 34 minutes ago, JohnNord said: I’m starting to get concerned with the Bills offensive line when compared to the other two top rivals in the AFC. When it became painfully obvious they needed to upgrade their OL, here’s what they did. Kansas City - paid big money for Joe Thuney (best guard available) and Orlando Brown and also drafted Creed Humphrey last season. This season they signed Jawan Taylor who was arguably the best tackle available in free agency. Cincinnati - last season signed one of the top RT’s in FA La’el Collins as well as two FA guards in Karras and Kappa to decent contracts. This season they went out and signed Brown. Buffalo - signed Connor McGovern to a decent contract. Returning 4/5 staters. I’m very much concerned about the Bills OL Then you want better run blockers and that means an overhaul. This regime covets pass blocking more. I disagree with it fundamentally - although it’s a passing league - we PLAY IN BUFFALO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: Chiefs fans are delusional about Orlando Brown. A Chiefs fan that likes to troll us on here said the Chiefs had "one of the worst starting tackle duos in the NFL." No clue what they're watching. He's a great player. What happens sometimes is Mahomes drifts back in the pocket which makes it harder for his tackles to wash their pass rusher out of the play. Burrow won't have this problem. The Bengals may have just a turned a weakness of their offense into a strength. Chiefs line was a definite strength of that team. If, IF, the tackles were the worst of their line, its amazing what having an elite interior does for a line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 2 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: I'd like to see competition for Mitch Morse spot too Morse isn’t perfect but you can argue he probably was their best lineman last season 4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Bengals spending to surround Joe Burrow at the expense of defense. Complete opposite of the Bills. They probably watched the Super Bowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Just now, JohnNord said: Morse isn’t perfect but you can argue he probably was their best lineman last season Be a short argument, he is their best lineman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Just now, JohnNord said: I’m bringing up Tommy Doyle because that’s usually the level of play you can expect from a mid-round rookie draft pick. Do you really think that a rookie tackle is going to be the type of player that pushes Brown? Unless he’s a first round draft pick… I don’t. I’m not positive that it’s going to be a mid round draft pick they gets brought up in the draft That’s actually the reason why I am concerned that we have not signed a veteran linebacker. I don’t want to use that number 27 on a linebacker I would rather draft a lineman. I don’t think we’re done on the o line I think we’re bargain shopping because we don’t have money. Eventually, the chairs are going to be filled with people and the music is going to stop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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