Draconator Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 well that’s nuts. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Bengals fans are losing it on Twitter. Obviously not an ideal email to have sent out right before Free Agency starts. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Ohio state law requires all employers to provide workers compensation benefits to their employees, either through self-insurance or the state fund so likely Bengals owners believe they can pay less than Ohio charges but this would affect other athletes as well. But if they have option to self-insure there is no need to change law for them to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Ownership have always been cheap. That’s why their window will be very small. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 This feels like much ado about nothing. I worked for an employer that changed our ability go in the red on PTO by 2 days instead of 5. Normally not the biggest deal. But we could not roll time over and our PTO reset on our start date. So if you started in October, November, December you basically could never take off for the holidays. Anyways HR always said “blame Cuomo for changing state law”. When they’d bring it up in company meetings I would always ask “does the state prevent you from providing more than the bare minimum, or is that a choice you’ve made?”. Anyways, I have to imagine the CBA has its own language around workers comp right? RIGHT?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, Mango said: This feels like much ado about nothing. I worked for an employer that changed our ability go in the red on PTO by 2 days instead of 5. Normally not the biggest deal. But we could not roll time over and our PTO reset on our start date. So if you started in October, November, December you basically could never take off for the holidays. Anyways HR always said “blame Cuomo for changing state law”. When they’d bring it up in company meetings I would always ask “does the state prevent you from providing more than the bare minimum, or is that a choice you’ve made?”. Anyways, I have to imagine the CBA has its own language around workers comp right? RIGHT?! Probably is, but an email blast like that about a franchise notorious for not paying players isn’t ideal for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Wow this seems like fair reporting 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) Agree with this tweet: LOL: Edited March 12, 2023 by chongli 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, SCBills said: Probably is, but an email blast like that about a franchise notorious for not paying players isn’t ideal for them. Terrible. The Bengals are getting pretty good and their ownership lacks free cash flow compared to the rest of the league. Perfect timing for a (well deserved) public shaming 14 hours ago, chongli said: Jesus. That’s bonkers. I’m legitimately shocked the NFLPA doesn’t have a comprehensive plan in place of state funded workers comp. Shame on the league. I know care for retired players has been tough to come by. But I didn’t realize it was this tough. Edited March 12, 2023 by Mango 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mango Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 26 minutes ago, chongli said: I actually think this should be enough for the other owners to force Brown to sell. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Mike Brown is about to write a check and put $150mm into an escrow account when he extends Burrow. Things must be tight around the Brown house, and after looking under couch cushions for $150mm with no luck, he decided to try and save a buck on worker's comp insurance premiums instead. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 54 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: Mike Brown is about to write a check and put $150mm into an escrow account when he extends Burrow. Things must be tight around the Brown house, and after looking under couch cushions for $150mm with no luck, he decided to try and save a buck on worker's comp insurance premiums instead. as hilarious as this sounds on its face, given that we’re talking about an NFL owner, this ABSOLUTELY tracks and I would be unsurprised if true. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Are Pro athletes considered "workers" under labour law? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 19 minutes ago, stuvian said: Are Pro athletes considered "workers" under labour law? is that a serious question? Why wouldn’t they be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) Workman's Comp coverage for an athlete making more than $100k per game is kind of ridiculous. WC wasn't meant for application to the NFL or highly paid workers in general. Take the WC fund and use it for workers that really need to tap that fund when injured on the job . In the abstract, I actually can see where the Bengals are coming from. The WC fund is not a bottomless pool of $$. The optics of this are really bad for the team and they should have considered that, but fundamentally their position makes some sense. An NFL type workplace injury could drain the fund unnecessarily (bc the team/player has more than enough dough to pay) and the fund is designed/meant for the quadriplegic phone company worker making $20/hr with 4 kids Edited March 12, 2023 by ProcessTruster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 2 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: Workman's Comp coverage for an athlete making more than $100k per game is kind of ridiculous. WC wasn't meant for application to the NFL or highly paid workers in general. Take the WC fund and use it for workers that really need to tap that fund when injured on the job . In the abstract, I actually can see where the Bengals are coming from. The WC fund is not a bottomless pool of $$. The optics of this are really bad for the team and they should have considered that, but fundamentally their position makes some sense. An NFL type workplace injury could drain the fund unnecessarily (bc the team/player has more than enough dough to pay) and the fund is designed/meant for the quadriplegic phone company worker making $20/hr with 4 kids Yeah the important optics are that it's something that ownership has to pay for though. NYSIF charges a figure based on per $100 paid to employee.......so essentially a tax rate. It's significant........it's in the millions in annual contributions that an NFL team has to make and I'd expect it to be more like 8 figures given the high risk nature of the job. You have to offer an alternative privately funded option if you are taking it away though. I've been perplexed how this notoriously frugal franchise has been able to steal some free agents that the Bills were also interested in. DJ Reader in particular. Why do players sign on with that team? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Typical behavior of one percenters to do what they can to make others lives more difficult, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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