Never NEVER Give-up Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Success said: I'm not sure if any other fanbase has had to endure so much bad QB play over such a long stretch - maybe Cleveland. Agree with your article, except for the above. Soooo many teams have never had a great QB on their roster. Think Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland, Cardinals, Rams (maybe) and Falcons. And most will never see guys as good as Brady, Manning, Mahomes, Josh, Herbert & Burrow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 2 hours ago, ALLinALLEN said: lol I know that....the OP said he wouldnt trade allen for mahomes which is a ludicrous statement. It's not ludicrous. Mahomes is probably more consistent of a player, but they are very close in talent level. Mahomes has for sure done more in the league, including winning a Superbowl and an MVP. So he has that going for him. And then there is stuff like leadership, likeability, temperament, competitiveness, etc. I like Josh Allen more than Mahomes in all those areas. And that is part of why Allen is so endearing to Bills fans. They like him as a person, as a leader, etc. That's why we wouldn't trade him for Mahomes. If it was reversed and KC had Allen, I'm sure they'd feel the same and Bills fans would similarly not want to trade Mahomes. Each fanbase likes their guy. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 28 minutes ago, ALLinALLEN said: There are also a ton of stats and data that say this is not just purely a "personal preference" point either. That's also OK too. Mahomes is undeniably great. It's entirely reasonable to prefer him to Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Mahomes is undeniably great. It's entirely reasonable to prefer him to Allen. But not ludicrous to prefer Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Just now, MJS said: But not ludicrous to prefer Allen. Of course not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Beck Water said: where’s your wallet? pics of the cash it contains or we don’t believe it can happen Captain Hindsight is buying, the guy is loaded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Beck Water said: where’s your wallet? pics of the cash it contains or we don’t believe it can happen 'Buy' is a euphemism. HOUSE has been hoarding 'Roll Up The Rim' winning cups. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 30 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: 'Buy' is a euphemism. HOUSE has been hoarding 'Roll Up The Rim' winning cups. Ridgeway is loaded too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Ridgeway is loaded too True. Half a bottle of Labatt Crystal, and I'm looped. 🥴 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Can’t say that I am surprised to see how many negative reactions to an obviously genuine post. I for one am right there with you man. My first game was in 1980, I have seen enough to know how blessed we are to live in this time. The Josh Allen era will, IMO end up the best ever the franchise has seen since it’s inception. Thank you Josh, we are all here supporting every move you make! Go Bills !! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 2 hours ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: Even if Mahomes was better than Allen, I could never listen to that grating, horrible, kermit voiced cadence before every play. I want to drill my eardrums out every time I hear him get ready for a snap. Does this annoy anyone else? not nearly as much as those stupid state farm commercials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Only a thread aye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Man, ***** Mahomes. This thread feels like every nationally-televised Bills game where Romo or Collinsworth or whoever has to mention Mahomes' name every time Josh does something good. This isn't about him at all. It's about how lucky we are to have THIS quarterback. Like the OP, I lived through the Kelly years. I also lived through quite a few years before that. And when Kelly was our QB and the idiots were coming out of the woodwork to say stupid crap like Reich should start or whatever, my response was always the same: you have NO idea what we have and you're only going to realize it when he's gone. So enjoy it now. And Marino and Montana and Elway can ***** right the ***** off. We're lucky enough to have been blessed with another great one. Let's just enjoy this ride. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: This is true of every player to ever play the game, including Brady, the GOAT. Correction: Otto Graham went to the championship every year he was in the league and won 7/10. This is used as a slight against Allen but not Mahomes. Granted Mahomes won a super bowl, but his playoff failures are held up as an accomplishment while Allen's are held up as failures. If Allen scored 0 tds in a Super Bowl and blew a 3 score lead against the Bengals, you'd be at his throat. It all comes down to the one super bowl that realistically, San Francisco should have won. Edited December 16, 2022 by What a Tuel 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 I agree 100% with the OP. We are very lucky to have Josh as our QB. Watch him light it up en-route to the SB this year! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 I get the original post. Choosing either over the other isn’t ludicrous. I would like to see a poll of NFL GMs. One game, who do you pick? I think it’s something like 24 to 8, Mahomes. Now, take away Reid and McDermott, it’s closer to 20 to 12. No slight to anyone. Josh is my guy. He’s “Buffalo.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: This is used as a slight against Allen but not Mahomes. Granted Mahomes won a super bowl, but his playoff failures are held up as an accomplishment while Allen's are held up as failures. If Allen scored 0 tds in a Super Bowl and blew a 3 score lead against the Bengals, you'd be at his throat. It all comes down to the one super bowl that realistically, San Francisco should have won. It's not a slight. It's a simple collection of undebateable facts. Mahomes has reached heights Allen has not and has done so at an extremely consistent level. I'm not interested in theoretical arguments about who should have won games - that's not the way competition works. Winning matters and it's usually not luck at the highest levels. The fact that Mahomes has taken his team to that level every year should cement that point. If he retired today he'd be a first ballot Hall of Famer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Can we give some love to Josh's leadership and social skills? He handles questions near perfectly, his "OK" short answer to "You're not a Superbowk offense" was perfect. As was his answers for having his nuts squeezed. Plus his teammates love him. He is a leader! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: It's not a slight. It's a simple collection of undebateable facts. Mahomes has reached heights Allen has not and has done so at an extremely consistent level. I'm not interested in theoretical arguments about who should have won games - that's not the way competition works. Winning matters and it's usually not luck at the highest levels. The fact that Mahomes has taken his team to that level every year should cement that point. If he retired today he'd be a first ballot Hall of Famer. You are shifting the argument now to whether or not Mahomes is a good qb. That isn't the argument, no one is arguing that. The argument is that it is a team sport. Our defense let Josh Allen down last January. And yet you pin that on Allen because Mahomes won? Also, Jim Kelly took the Bills to 4 straight Super Bowls and yet most people wouldn't rate him above Dan Marino. That isn't the greatest metric. Edited December 16, 2022 by What a Tuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&Goal Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 3 hours ago, BruceVilanch said: That doesn't annoy me as much as his brother and his wife does. No matter how his voice sounds, he does seem like a decent dude. He and Josh appear to actually like each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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