cle23 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 14 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: 🎯    McConnell's Kentucky is one of the welfare capitals of the country. Of course he is going to support another federally funded infrastructure project in his own state. Kentucky receives 215% more federal funding than they pay in.   This isn't some great "bipartisan" plan. It's Kentucky with their hand out, like usual. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Not sure what the problem is here. This is what actual congressional negotiations look like. Has it been so long since we’ve seen them that nobody recognizes them anymore? Just two weeks ago you’all had your hair on fire because these same people were voting in lockstep for a multi-TRILLION dollar spending bill that none of them had read. Now we’re upset because they’re taking their time on an issue that’ll set the course for a two year agenda? Come on people! 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, cle23 said:  McConnell's Kentucky is one of the welfare capitals of the country. Of course he is going to support another federally funded infrastructure project in his own state. Kentucky receives 215% more federal funding than they pay in.   This isn't some great "bipartisan" plan. It's Kentucky with their hand out, like usual.  The post wasn't talking about politicians taking the opportunity to glad hand over pork barrel handouts regardless of party affiliation.  It asked for examples of other side of the aisle politicians, specifically senators, doing it with Trump.  Again, we'll wait. Edited January 4, 2023 by BillsFanNC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 35 minutes ago, cle23 said:  McConnell's Kentucky is one of the welfare capitals of the country. Of course he is going to support another federally funded infrastructure project in his own state. Kentucky receives 215% more federal funding than they pay in.   This isn't some great "bipartisan" plan. It's Kentucky with their hand out, like usual. pretty much the entire red southern state voting block meets that criteria.  And they're the first to yell socialism when social programs that don't benefit them directly are proposed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 51 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:  The post wasn't talking about politicians taking the opportunity to glad hand over pork barrel handouts regardless of party affiliation.  It asked for examples of other side of the aisle politicians, specifically senators, doing it with Trump.  Again, we'll wait.  First Step Act of 2018 is one for criminal justice changes.  And your criteria isn't necessarily showing great Republican "bipartisanship" as you seem to believe. Trump was also as partisan as it gets, and tried to withhold emergency federal funding because it was to a Democratic state. So it wasn't always Democrats refusing to work with him, though it obviously goes both ways there entirely too often.   Both parties are garbage, everyone knows they're garbage, yet we sit here and argue about whose garbage smells better. And we draw lines over who has the best garbage while the parties are the same damn thing painted different colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 4, 2023 Author Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Not sure what the problem is here. This is what actual congressional negotiations look like. Has it been so long since we’ve seen them that nobody recognizes them anymore? Just two weeks ago you’all had your hair on fire because these same people were voting in lockstep for a multi-TRILLION dollar spending bill that none of them had read. Now we’re upset because they’re taking their time on an issue that’ll set the course for a two year agenda? Come on people! It shows the GOP can't even govern themselves, let alone make laws for the country. They are a disaster 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, cle23 said:  First Step Act of 2018 is one for criminal justice changes.  Which dem senator did Trump appear in public with to celebrate that one?   24 minutes ago, cle23 said:  And your criteria isn't necessarily showing great Republican "bipartisanship" as you seem to believe. Trump was also as partisan as it gets, and tried to withhold emergency federal funding because it was to a Democratic state. So it wasn't always Democrats refusing to work with him, though it obviously goes both ways there entirely too often.   Again the tweet that I posted and agreed with is specifically against bipartisanship. Both parties suck. One plays to win for the woke commie and the other plays to capitulate and apologize for how the woke commies characterize them.  I have no use for either one.   Edited January 4, 2023 by BillsFanNC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, cle23 said:  First Step Act of 2018 is one for criminal justice changes.  And your criteria isn't necessarily showing great Republican "bipartisanship" as you seem to believe. Trump was also as partisan as it gets, and tried to withhold emergency federal funding because it was to a Democratic state. So it wasn't always Democrats refusing to work with him, though it obviously goes both ways there entirely too often.   Both parties are garbage, everyone knows they're garbage, yet we sit here and argue about whose garbage smells better. And we draw lines over who has the best garbage while the parties are the same damn thing painted different colors. They aren’t even close to the same. The extreme of the D’s is Bernie. MTG for the R’s. Couldn’t be more ideologically different 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Not sure what the problem is here. This is what actual congressional negotiations look like. Has it been so long since we’ve seen them that nobody recognizes them anymore? Just two weeks ago you’all had your hair on fire because these same people were voting in lockstep for a multi-TRILLION dollar spending bill that none of them had read. Now we’re upset because they’re taking their time on an issue that’ll set the course for a two year agenda? Come on people! Well we’re not that far removed from a whole bunch of people worried about authoritarian rule later on applauding an armed raid on a former president, and congress force feeding the release of private tax information under the banner of freedom.  Crazy times.    3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 its like someone is bored so they dusted off all the old sock puppets and are trying to create a narrative. Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: FIFY Well we’re not that far removed from a whole bunch of people worried about authoritarian rule later on applauding an armed raid on a former president agreeing with a legal search for reasonably suspected criminal activity , and congress force feeding the release of private tax information under the banner of freedom.  Crazy times.     1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 If McCarthy is not elected Speaker today , a person outside Congress could be nominated . I wonder if DeSantis would want the job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 24 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Well we’re not that far removed from a whole bunch of people worried about authoritarian rule later on applauding an armed raid on a former president, and congress force feeding the release of private tax information under the banner of freedom.  Crazy times.     Just like we're not that far removed from a whole bunch of people who supposedly hate Commies worried about the second amendment and the right to own as many guns as they wish and sell them freely later on getting all pissy over an arms dealer being traded for an American being detained in Putin's Communist Russia. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 47 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:  Which dem senator did Trump appear in public with to celebrate that one?   Who cares about public? Is that really the requirement now? And again, we have no idea if that would be a Democrat or a Trump thing, because Trump wouldn't give Democrats credit for anything they did do. The dude was an "expert" on everything, the "best" at everything, and took credit for everything he could, even if he wasn't involved. I doubt his partisan hack ego could allow them to show up together. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 McCarthy is a uniparty RINO. He has done nothing the last 2 yrs. Never spoke out against the Jan.6 committee holding political prisoners for 2 yrs. Has never said a word about the raid on Trump and former cabinet members, let alone private citizens who happen to be conservatives.  Never speaks out against any of the asinine spending of the Dems or the deliberate invasion of our borders. The list goes on. He takes dirty money and is nothing more than McConnell Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Just when you thought the 2020 Presidential election, all of the bogus court cases being thrown out and the 2022 midterm election debacle weren't enough losing, in comes the GOP to provide MORE entertainment at the expense of Kevin McCarthy! Â 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Andy, glad to see you’re ok.  We had the brief exchange the other day about Republican’s treating Santos with the Biden model and then poof, you were gone.   Hi Leh-nerd. I’m here and fine. I’m more of a reader than poster. I enjoy your responses. It’s nice that people with unlike minds get to hash out issues here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 46 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:  Point of order, FIFY should be changed to FIFM.  Other than that, the debate continues and I understand your perspective.    Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 22 minutes ago, cle23 said:  Who cares about public? Is that really the requirement now? And again, we have no idea if that would be a Democrat or a Trump thing, because Trump wouldn't give Democrats credit for anything they did do. The dude was an "expert" on everything, the "best" at everything, and took credit for everything he could, even if he wasn't involved. I doubt his partisan hack ego could allow them to show up together.  Again no need for hand waving. Here is the tweet you responded to asking for examples of any dem senator appearing with Trump to tout his economic plan?  Like most leftists you're assuming I am defending Trump and then go off reservation. I'm not. He's a narcissistic, blowhard. Just looking for bipartisan examples.  Like Biden/McConnell.   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Point of order, FIFY should be changed to FIFM.  Other than that, the debate continues and I understand your perspective.    greetings Leo  so there is division within the republican party. Does this surprise you any? I need to catch up read the thread to be more informed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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