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Week 4: Bills at Ravens 10/2 1pm


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5 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Glad you added the last paragraph. I was gonna lay into you. I know you can take it. Lol

 

I do think Lamar is an elite QB. Not in the traditional sense. He's elite because of his legs and explosiveness. Also, he looks to be improved as a passer. He's the number one rated QB vs the blitz. So the game is likely slowing down for him. Also, he is rated first at throwing the ball downfield at 9.2 yards per pass. I think he has two viable receivers in Bateman and Duevernay. I wouldn't be surprised if either beats the banged up young Bills secondary for a few long plays. 

 

Yes, I can take it.  I know others have a difference of opinion and thats ok.  This is just my opinion.  I dont think Lamar is terrible.  I just think that if he has to stand in the pocket and consistently deliver passes that he can't.  Thats not his game.  I think this is why he will not do well in the playoffs because unless the stars align, he is always going to run into a team that can contain him and cover Andrews at the same time. The Ravens have lost almost every game when a team can do that.

 

He has viable receivers and they will make some plays yes.  I just dont think they will make enough to beat you.  One because I dont think Lamar will consistently get them the ball.  Two because they arent exactly players like Diggs, Hill, Chase, etc.

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Watching the Pats game back, if Josh gets as much time on the ball as Jones did then he’s going to love it back there. How much was that down to Baltimore’s defensive line being awful and how much the Pat’s OL being good? We’re going to have to be careful securing the ball as they’re very good at punching it out to cause turnovers.

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5 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

Are you really comparing passing attacks? 

Lamar has been throwing the ball a lot better and has been trying to emphasize it. 
I’m not saying Lamar is Josh Allen or that Baltimore relies as heavily on the pass, but this isn’t the same offensive approach as three years ago. 

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10 hours ago, LEBills said:

I actually think this is a much easier matchup for us than Miami

 

Baltimores secondary is banged up and we are less likely to see a bunch of 2 high like we did vs Miami. If they do go two high, I hope we see some James Cook getting the 6-9 catches rather than those going to Miss and Singletary the last two weeks.

 

Additionally, and more importantly, Baltimores pass rush is not very good and their rotation is shallow. I think Josh will have a very comfortable day on Sunday.

 

Now Lamar is obviously a much bigger threat than Tua but the Bills have been very good at containing him. Should be a fun game but I expect a convincing win.

I was at the game so it's hard to tell, but you mentioned Miami played a lot of 2 high.

 

To my understanding, didn't they blitz Josh a lot?

 

If that's the case, they probably saw a lot more single high

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20 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Wasnt Lawson part of the group that helped contain Lamar so well in the playoff game?

 

Would be.  Ya never know.  I think we get Poyer and Oliver back at least.  Dane is probably going to depend on swelling which is probably what he has to over come now.

Lawson wasn't here for the playoff game. Maybe you're thinking of Murphy. 

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1 hour ago, BillsFan130 said:

I was at the game so it's hard to tell, but you mentioned Miami played a lot of 2 high.

 

To my understanding, didn't they blitz Josh a lot?

 

If that's the case, they probably saw a lot more single high

They did blitz and it was largely a mistake. He had a 143.9 rating vs the Dolphins blitz … 13-17 with 159 yards and 2 TDs. However on one of them singletary was late to pick it up and it led to the fumble 

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37 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

They did blitz and it was largely a mistake. He had a 143.9 rating vs the Dolphins blitz … 13-17 with 159 yards and 2 TDs. However on one of them singletary was late to pick it up and it led to the fumble 

 

That wasn't on Singletary, that was on the Center.  He telegraphed the snap count and also snapped it immediately before the rest of his line could get set after he gave the signal he was snapping the ball. Dawkins literally wasn't even looking at his man and was turned inside pointing out a Dolphin player to Saffold(ie, you take him), and before he could turn his head back and get out of his stance, Ingram was already by him.  That was a WTF play by Van Roten.

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1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

 

That wasn't on Singletary, that was on the Center.  He telegraphed the snap count and also snapped it immediately before the rest of his line could get set after he gave the signal he was snapping the ball. Dawkins literally wasn't even looking at his man and was turned inside pointing out a Dolphin player to Saffold(ie, you take him), and before he could turn his head back and get out of his stance, Ingram was already by him.  That was a WTF play by Van Roten.

This game would have been so much different with Morse

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45 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

They did blitz and it was largely a mistake. He had a 143.9 rating vs the Dolphins blitz … 13-17 with 159 yards and 2 TDs. However on one of them singletary was late to pick it up and it led to the fumble 


They brought tons of pressure in the first half and it was boom/bust. Got a sack fumble that led to 7 but let Bills march down the field for 2TDs. 
 

Second half they brought the same pressure looks but then faded into zone coverages to take away the middle and deep parts of the field. Allen was able to largely deal with by throwing dump offs but it was very effective in forcing the Bills to play long, exhausting drives that would stall in the red zone. Result? An exhausted Bills offense that could only muster 3 points. 

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1 hour ago, billsfan1959 said:

DVOA Rankings for Buffalo and Baltimore (Football Outsiders)

 

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Surprised to see how effective Baltimore offense is, although a lot of that comes down to their running game being poor as opposed to the Bills which is laughable.

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