The Wiz Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 30 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: I'll believe it when I see it. VS I'll see it when I believe it Let's agree to disagree. Not sure I disagreed with you on anything. Just saying Miller can run his mouth about stuff all he wants because he's done it all, the rest haven't so they are pitching the company line of "one game at a time" while Miller is saying "I want another 'ship" I agreed with everything else you said prior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forlorn hope Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 30 minutes ago, Chaos said: People love Beane and McDermott. But the truth be told, if Allen had been a bust, both would be out of Buffalo. Josh Allen is a career maker. I'm not 100% sold on that. 2017 bought them a lot of time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 47 minutes ago, Forlorn hope said: The moment was stolen by McDermott. Can we please just be honest Do we really have to do this again ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forlorn hope Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Do we really have to do this again ??? Do what again You can't have Josh Allen as your QB and not win a couple super bowls dude. Period Doug Collins was fired by the bulls, a good coach. But it is what it is. Eventually you must win chips if you have a talent like mj Marty schottenheimer Dan reeves It happens man. You can't have Josh Allen as a talent and screw up that bad. He's under a lot of pressure and rightfully so. I'm not worried about Josh Allen. I am concerned about McDermott in pressure situations Edited September 3, 2022 by Forlorn hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 16 minutes ago, Forlorn hope said: I'm not 100% sold on that. 2017 bought them a lot of time Its 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forlorn hope Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Chaos said: Its 2022. I think he's saying if Allen was a bust, McDermott and Beane would've been gone. I'm not sure about that. I think Terry would've given them a few more years to find the guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 On 9/2/2022 at 6:06 AM, Steptide said: Isn't it crazy how many of us (myself included) thought the bills made a horrible pick in that draft? Gotta hand it to beane and the staff for having that foresight. The credit goes to Allen for working hard and becoming the best in his craft the Bills coaching staff for being patient with him and then putting him in places to succeed Beane and his team for surrounding Allen with some top talent 1 hour ago, Chaos said: People love Beane and McDermott. But the truth be told, if Allen had been a bust, both would be out of Buffalo. Josh Allen is a career maker. That is how it goes in the NFL. However, see my other post....It is coming together of all things....Beane and McDermott have a strong role to play in Allens success and hence vice versa 16 hours ago, eball said: I encourage Bills fans to take a step back and simply enjoy whatever run we have with Josh. The “we have to win the SB this year or the season is a failure” mentality is, in my own insignificant opinion, unhealthy. As the article suggests, JA is probably a once-in-a-lifetime talent — not a trend of NFL QBs into the future. If things progress as they should, the championships will follow given the strong organizational structure in Buffalo. I’m going to enjoy the hell out of this. +1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Chaos said: People love Beane and McDermott. But the truth be told, if Allen had been a bust, both would be out of Buffalo. Josh Allen is a career maker. That's true for any team. You don't draft well and/or win, you get booted. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 10 hours ago, Forlorn hope said: You can't have Josh Allen as your QB and not win a couple super bowls dude. Period Sure you can. Super bowl wins: Manning: 2 (2 different teams) Brees: 1 Elway: 2 Kelly: 0 Marino: 0 I understand Allen is a freak of nature compared to most of these guys but yea, it's definitely possible for it to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 15 hours ago, Chaos said: People love Beane and McDermott. But the truth be told, if Allen had been a bust, both would be out of Buffalo. Josh Allen is a career maker. There’s truth in this, but that’s almost always the case in the NFL. Being right with a high draft pick QB buys you a lot of time. A bust and you’ve got one foot out the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, Boatdrinks said: There’s truth in this, but that’s almost always the case in the NFL. Being right with a high draft pick QB buys you a lot of time. A bust and you’ve got one foot out the door. The thing is, they didn't give up a lot to get Josh. They traded up from 21 to 12 with Cordy Glenn, who was done. Then they traded 2-2nd rounders to move to 7. Contrast that with what the 49'ers and Bears gave up to get their QBs. Now those are guys on the hot seat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukestreetking Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 23 hours ago, GoBills808 said: Not for nothing but last season in the playoffs he played better than any QB in history period Ok, I'll beat this horse to death: JA actually has highest passer rating in NFL PLAYOFF history at at 106.6. He stands above Mahomes, Bart Starr, Kurt Warner and everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: There’s truth in this, but that’s almost always the case in the NFL. Being right with a high draft pick QB buys you a lot of time. A bust and you’ve got one foot out the door. yes which means we all mainly love Josh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 7 hours ago, Chaos said: yes which means we all mainly love Josh. True. I mean I’ve never seen anyone with a Beane jersey in the stands. Still, he deserves some credit for the pick. In Trumpian fashion, I like GMs that don’t miss on 1st round QBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Wow. How fast did some fans go from "this coaching staff made Josh Allen" to "Josh Allen made this coaching staff". Just admit everybody is good here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 On 9/2/2022 at 8:29 PM, Chaos said: People love Beane and McDermott. But the truth be told, if Allen had been a bust, both would be out of Buffalo. Josh Allen is a career maker. McDermott broke the franchise drought with Tyrod. If Josh were a bust they would’ve moved on quickly. 10 hours ago, Dukestreetking said: Ok, I'll beat this horse to death: JA actually has highest passer rating in NFL PLAYOFF history at at 106.6. He stands above Mahomes, Bart Starr, Kurt Warner and everyone else. something about him…. This bigger the game the more he balls out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 20-0. Go get it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaBill Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 On 9/2/2022 at 6:29 PM, Chaos said: People love Beane and McDermott. But the truth be told, if Allen had been a bust, both would be out of Buffalo. Josh Allen is a career maker. This is a popular yet silly argument. If, maybe, but….blah blah. Fact: the did draft JA when 6 other teams passed. Fact: they made the playoffs after 17 years in their first season. Fact: they have drafted or traded for star players aside from JA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 23 minutes ago, AlfaBill said: This is a popular yet silly argument. If, maybe, but….blah blah. Fact: the did draft JA when 6 other teams passed. Fact: they made the playoffs after 17 years in their first season. Fact: they have drafted or traded for star players aside from JA. You are entitled to your opinion. No matter how wrong it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaBill Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 24 minutes ago, Chaos said: You are entitled to your opinion. No matter how wrong it is. As are you. No matter how stupid you sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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