wnyguy Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 minute ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Exactly! You all knock the few nuts we have while defending the hundreds of thousands on your own. I think all your side has left are the nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 minute ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Exactly! You all knock the few nuts we have while defending the hundreds of thousands on your own. A few vs hundreds of thousands? And that's not what I was referring to but you're doing a great job making my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: I'll take that bet. Now get to work. We're talking bs but do you honestly believe this? I didn't even mention the religious nuts who would gladly have us be a Christian version of Iran. Jewish space lasers bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) Political persuasion is all scientifically pre determined by personality and temperament, imo… Philosophically, the Left represents the Feminine/Chaos/Emotion, while the Right represents the Masculine/Order/Logic… These two sides are perfectly portrayed in the Asian concept of the “Yin and Yang” duality of the universe , and are eternally destined to battle eachother for supremacy til the end of time- or at least until humans evolve enough to realize that both sides are needed on a balanced level… A majority of either side will always bring an imbalance to civilization, ultimately leading to its downfall…👍 Edited December 7, 2022 by JaCrispy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 13 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Political persuasion is all scientifically pre determined by personality and temperament, imo… Philosophically, the Left represents the Feminine/Chaos/Emotion, while the Right represents the Masculine/Order/Logic… These two sides are perfectly portrayed in the Asian concept of the “Yin and Yang” duality of the universe , and are eternally destined to battle eachother for supremacy til the end of time- or at least until humans evolve enough to realize that both sides are needed on a balanced level… A majority of either side will always bring an imbalance to civilization, ultimately leading to its downfall…👍 Yes grasshopper. One of your saviors Tucker Carlson certainly exemplifies masculinity. The imbalance part is spot on. The rest is cray cray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Yes grasshopper. One of your saviors Tucker Carlson certainly exemplifies masculinity. The imbalance part is spot on. The rest is cray cray. Masculine/Feminine isn’t describing physical appearance, but rather a representation for a particular way of thinking (ie. Empathy is a feminine trait, whereas discipline is a masculine trait)… Most of the policy that comes from the Left is based on empathy and feelings, whereas most of the policy that comes from the Right is based on discipline and order… Edited December 7, 2022 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Masculine/Feminine isn’t describing physical appearance, but rather a representation for a particular way of thinking (ie. Empathy is a feminine trait, whereas discipline is a masculine trait)… Most of the policy that comes from the Left is based on empathy and feelings, whereas most of the policy that comes from the Right is based on discipline and order… Generally I agree where feelings are substituted for facts. One aspect is the participation trophy culture. Taunting penalties in sports. Sure you can beat them 55-0 but don't say anything that might make them cry. The left demonizes traits emphasizing masculinity, or as some say "toxic" masculinity. You see this all over the place. Woke mythology glorifies lesbians, generally women of color, and portrays straight men, generally white males, as villains and as people with low morals or ethics. Only men that can cry while sympathizing with and apologizing for the evils the oppressive system they have brought to bear on others are acceptable. Men are weak of character and ability. The left is generally focused on the traits of "strong" women and subservient men following their lead is the only acceptable male attribute. We're bombarded with this in current media, TV shows and movies, comics, other entertainment. My objection to it all as its presented is they have absolutely no creative skills or any original ideas. All they do is take existing characters and heroes and repackage them as something else. And constantly watching a 105 lb, 5 foot 3 inch women beat up 4 or 5 guys weighing in at 200 lbs in the prime of their physical abilities is a bit to much to believe. What the left appears to desire is a population of males we might characterize as "wimps". But wimps don't do things like fight and win wars? Are women going to assume that role? Have at it and they're welcome to it. Edited December 7, 2022 by All_Pro_Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 39 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: We're talking bs but do you honestly believe this? I didn't even mention the religious nuts who would gladly have us be a Christian version of Iran. Jewish space lasers bro. Do I honestly believe that the right is any crazier than the left? Of course I don’t honestly believe that. The fact that you do is ***** pathetically hilarious. Carry on blinders boy. 👍🏻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Yup, I made them up. But I would bet my last dollar between qanon, election deniers, proud twats etc your crazies absolutely outnumber ours. I doubt it's close. Sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 21 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Masculine/Feminine isn’t describing physical appearance, but rather a representation for a particular way of thinking (ie. Empathy is a feminine trait, whereas discipline is a masculine trait)… Most of the policy that comes from the Left is based on empathy and feelings, whereas most of the policy that comes from the Right is based on discipline and order… Easy breezy. Don’t go all Carl Jung on him. It will confuse him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 13 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Do I honestly believe that the right is any crazier than the left? Of course I don’t honestly believe that. The fact that you do is ***** pathetically hilarious. Carry on blinders boy. 👍🏻 No blinders here. I dislike our crazies just as much as your sides generally. I simply recognize them as an extremely vocal minority. The gender psychos, nutjob feminists, they can all jump off a bridge for all I care. I want what the Nordic countries have or as close to it as we can manage with hopefully slightly lower taxes. Improve our education and our country will thrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 minute ago, L Ron Burgundy said: No blinders here. I dislike our crazies just as much as your sides generally. I simply recognize them as an extremely vocal minority. The gender psychos, nutjob feminists, they can all jump off a bridge for all I care. I want what the Nordic countries have or as close to it as we can manage with hopefully slightly lower taxes. Improve our education and our country will thrive. An extreme vocal minority? Yeah you’ve got blinders on. Move to Norway. The comparison between the US and Scandinavia is absurd. Lower taxes? By spending like they have been. You don’t understand fiscal policy real well do you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 29 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Easy breezy. Don’t go all Carl Jung on him. It will confuse him. Lol…sometimes I can’t help myself, but you are so right, Jim…😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share Posted December 7, 2022 🎯 Like I said - Americans are tired of the BS... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, BillStime said: 🎯 Like I said - Americans are tired of the BS... Oh now you're all for values. But here's the thing which you lack of critical thinking people don't get. My values differ from yours and when one party (Dem or GOP) pushes their values on me/you through legislation it's a huge problem. Just leave us alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share Posted December 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Oh now you're all for values. But here's the thing which you lack of critical thinking people don't get. My values differ from yours and when one party (Dem or GOP) pushes their values on me/you through legislation it's a huge problem. Just leave us alone. Americans are tired of the BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 16 minutes ago, BillStime said: Americans are tired of the BS. What BS are they tired of my friend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 5 hours ago, Chef Jim said: An extreme vocal minority? Yeah you’ve got blinders on. Move to Norway. The comparison between the US and Scandinavia is absurd. Lower taxes? By spending like they have been. You don’t understand fiscal policy real well do you. It's absurd only because we have so many hopelessly moronic people in our country. They are highly educated and some of the happiest countries in the world. Most of what they've implemented government wise were ideas from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, L Ron Burgundy said: It's absurd only because we have so many hopelessly moronic people in our country. They are highly educated and some of the happiest countries in the world. Most of what they've implemented government wise were ideas from us. Yep. It’s amazing what a small Nordic country can accomplish when they have their larger neighbors to protect their arse from marauding super powers. Just ask Canada! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 11 hours ago, JaCrispy said: Political persuasion is all scientifically pre determined by personality and temperament, imo… Philosophically, the Left represents the Feminine/Chaos/Emotion, while the Right represents the Masculine/Order/Logic… These two sides are perfectly portrayed in the Asian concept of the “Yin and Yang” duality of the universe , and are eternally destined to battle eachother for supremacy til the end of time- or at least until humans evolve enough to realize that both sides are needed on a balanced level… A majority of either side will always bring an imbalance to civilization, ultimately leading to its downfall…👍 I think you are more right than not on this. In addition to personality and temperament, I would add life experiences when growing up. I’m no expert but I would suggest that the left represents caring, empathy and creativity while the right represents order, production and linear thinking. Most people appreciate the values of both sides, but lean one way or another. It’s remarkable how individual preferences split America almost exactly in half. Government at its best incorporates the ideas and values of both to benefit society. Sometimes the parties move too far one way or the other. For all this to work, we need a functioning representative government where representatives of each side listen to and respect each other, where people from the other party are not viewed as enemies. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 19 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said: No blinders here. I dislike our crazies just as much as your sides generally. I simply recognize them as an extremely vocal minority. The gender psychos, nutjob feminists, they can all jump off a bridge for all I care. I want what the Nordic countries have or as close to it as we can manage with hopefully slightly lower taxes. Improve our education and our country will thrive. The nordic countries are perfect for those who embrace mediocrity. That said liberals wouldn’t really enjoy it because of the strong family centric values that underpin the culture and total lack of diversity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: The nordic countries are perfect for those who embrace mediocrity. That said liberals wouldn’t really enjoy it because of the strong family centric values that underpin the culture and total lack of diversity. Mediocrity? Generally they have the happiest people ( according to polls i assume are somewhat accurate) and are nearly all at the top education wise. I wouldn't characterize that as mediocre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Mediocrity? Generally they have the happiest people ( according to polls i assume are somewhat accurate) and are nearly all at the top education wise. I wouldn't characterize that as mediocre. Would you characterize them as completely different from the United States? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Mediocrity? Generally they have the happiest people ( according to polls i assume are somewhat accurate) and are nearly all at the top education wise. I wouldn't characterize that as mediocre. So why are they so happy? What’s the secret? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Just now, SoCal Deek said: So why are they so happy? What’s the secret? One thing I've noticed about those countries, and though no expert I've been to Stockholm many times. is that they have a very homogeneous population up until now. Nowhere near the cultural diversity that exists in Western European countries or the US. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted December 8, 2022 Author Share Posted December 8, 2022 23 hours ago, JaCrispy said: Political persuasion is all scientifically pre determined by personality and temperament, imo… Philosophically, the Left represents the Feminine/Chaos/Emotion, while the Right represents the Masculine/Order/Logic… These two sides are perfectly portrayed in the Asian concept of the “Yin and Yang” duality of the universe , and are eternally destined to battle eachother for supremacy til the end of time- or at least until humans evolve enough to realize that both sides are needed on a balanced level… A majority of either side will always bring an imbalance to civilization, ultimately leading to its downfall…👍 Madison Cawthorn screams masc. Josh Hahahahahahahawly? And how many layers of foundation does King Trump plaster onto his face every day. Give it up. This whole masculine narrative from the right just further drives home the fact that these nut jobs are so freakn insecure and pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Just now, sherpa said: One thing I've noticed about those countries, and though no expert I've been to Stockholm many times. is that they have a very homogeneous population up until now. Nowhere near the cultural diversity that exists in Western European countries or the US. Thanks….I’d agree that’s a significant factor. And, their women are generally really good looking….there’s that too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Mediocrity? Generally they have the happiest people ( according to polls i assume are somewhat accurate) and are nearly all at the top education wise. I wouldn't characterize that as mediocre. Have you ever been there? If you’re happy with the same thing as everyone else no matter how hard you work and talented you are then you are happy and most likely not one of the hard working talented ones. therefore everyone is average ie mediocrity. If that suits you you should move there. If you aren’t that well traveled or willing to move there, go live in an ikea for a week. It the high end low end and middle of the road example of Nordic life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Have you ever been there? If you’re happy with the same thing as everyone else no matter how hard you work and talented you are then you are happy and most likely not one of the hard working talented ones. therefore everyone is average ie mediocrity. If that suits you you should move there. If you aren’t that well traveled or willing to move there, go live in an ikea for a week. It the high end low end and middle of the road example of Nordic life. My wife and her family lived in Norway for a few years. I just asked her why they are so happy. She says that’s not really the case. She said they are very quiet and actually dour. She said some of it has to with their socialist government. Almost to the point of “you will be happy!!” She also agreed with the homogeneous nature of their society. And back to socialism. I would assume it’s easy happy when you don’t have the pressure to be successful. It’s a huge pressure pot here and why so many snap. But the pressure has created the most successful and innovative people and companies the world has ever seen and I wouldn’t trade it for anything in the world. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 47 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: My wife and her family lived in Norway for a few years. I just asked her why they are so happy. She says that’s not really the case. She said they are very quiet and actually dour. She said some of it has to with their socialist government. Almost to the point of “you will be happy!!” She also agreed with the homogeneous nature of their society. And back to socialism. I would assume it’s easy happy when you don’t have the pressure to be successful. It’s a huge pressure pot here and why so many snap. But the pressure has created the most successful and innovative people and companies the world has ever seen and I wouldn’t trade it for anything in the world. And also at the same time the consequence of not trying to be successful isn’t as lavish here in the us as it is in socialist utopia. Which is why I assert driven people who want to try and be successful would consider the Nordic countries hell on earth. Microcosm #2 Nokia brick phone vs Apple iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Have you ever been there? If you’re happy with the same thing as everyone else no matter how hard you work and talented you are then you are happy and most likely not one of the hard working talented ones. therefore everyone is average ie mediocrity. If that suits you you should move there. If you aren’t that well traveled or willing to move there, go live in an ikea for a week. It the high end low end and middle of the road example of Nordic life. I've spent years over most of Europe so I'd say I'm well traveled. To put them in a box and say they're all happy for the same reason is ignorant. They like their government by and large. Can any of us say the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: I've spent years over most of Europe so I'd say I'm well traveled. To put them in a box and say they're all happy for the same reason is ignorant. They like their government by and large. Can any of us say the same? Wait….you’re saying you don’t like our government? You might want to take that post down, or at least don’t answer the door for the next few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: Wait….you’re saying you don’t like our government? You might want to take that post down, or at least don’t answer the door for the next few days. Why? Brown shirts gonna beat my door down when I get home? Our 2 party system blows. Both parties are at their lowest points in forever. We have a mummy for a president and a crook owns the other. Cool. No, right now things suck. Less than the last term but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: I've spent years over most of Europe so I'd say I'm well traveled. To put them in a box and say they're all happy for the same reason is ignorant. They like their government by and large. Can any of us say the same? I think America is the greatest country in the Nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: And also at the same time the consequence of not trying to be successful isn’t as lavish here in the us as it is in socialist utopia. Which is why I assert driven people who want to try and be successful would consider the Nordic countries hell on earth. Microcosm #2 Nokia brick phone vs Apple iPhone I dont get the not trying to be successful part. That's an individual trait. I don't think it's fair at all to say people in those places aren't as ambitious. 1 minute ago, wnyguy said: I think America is the greatest country in the Nation. Yeah you don't sound dumb at all. Murica! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 58 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: I've spent years over most of Europe so I'd say I'm well traveled. To put them in a box and say they're all happy for the same reason is ignorant. They like their government by and large. Can any of us say the same? You’re attacking your own assertion 😂 I’ve lived and traveled in Europe and there is a reason ambitious people end up in this country. When achievement isn’t rewarded but instead stifled via redistribution you get mediocrity. That’s my real life observation. Complacency can be bliss for some. i highly encourage anyone wanting to live in that type of socialist construct to move there please! I personally am very happy my choices and hard work have afforded me and my family a better lifestyle than the average Scandinavian and or American. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: You’re attacking your own assertion 😂 I’ve lived and traveled in Europe and there is a reason ambitious people end up in this country. When achievement isn’t rewarded but instead stifled via redistribution you get mediocrity. That’s my real life observation. Complacency can be bliss for some. i highly encourage anyone wanting to live in that type of socialist construct to move there please! I personally am very happy my choices and hard work have afforded me and my family a better lifestyle than the average Scandinavian and or American. Agreed. But you don’t have to move halfway across the planet to see that. We’ve all experienced it in our daily lives. Most people know it to be absolutely true after completing their first ‘group’ project in the fifth grade. Edited December 8, 2022 by SoCal Deek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: You’re attacking your own assertion 😂 I’ve lived and traveled in Europe and there is a reason ambitious people end up in this country. When achievement isn’t rewarded but instead stifled via redistribution you get mediocrity. That’s my real life observation. Complacency can be bliss for some. i highly encourage anyone wanting to live in that type of socialist construct to move there please! I personally am very happy my choices and hard work have afforded me and my family a better lifestyle than the average Scandinavian and or American. Saying ambitious people end up here you know is somewhat outrageous. Some do some don't. There are plenty of ultra ambitious that care nothing for the US. I think a lot end up here more for comfort/cultural reasons than ambition as well. My assertion isn't we should be just like them. My assertion is we should try and emulate the things they are doing really well that we aren't. Education first and foremost followed by healthcare. They generally pay high taxes. We can pay less (than them) and get most of the benefits they enjoy. There's no reason for us to be so far behind in these areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 I've operated a business in South America, and I can state without reservation that there a massive impediments that don't exist in the US. Further, the "ambitious" people I established friendships with talked about it and dealt with it all the time. Eventually, it just got too hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Yeah you don't sound dumb at all. Murica! What's so dumb about saying America is the greatest country in the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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