Tiberius Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: God is God….and you are not. The End So no gender? Is that scientific? Or are religions absolved for scientific rigor? @JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) Folks this is what a desperate attempt to change the subject looks like. 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: The REAL God? HA HA HA HA HA HA So you are a religious nut, too? 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: What's she like? 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: A transgender God??? 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: her·maph·ro·dite /hərˈmafrədīt/ a person or animal having both male and female sex organs or other sexual characteristics, either abnormally or (in the case of some organisms) as the natural condition. 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: So you must really get how bad racism is then. People of color have to still deal with ignorant racist people all the time 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: is God male? No answers, just random childishness. Edited June 7, 2022 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 1 minute ago, B-Man said: Folks this is what a desperate attempt to change the subject looks like. No answers, just random childishness. Oh come on B-man, you know as well as I do that traditional Christianity always saw God as a man, and now you guys won't say that. You have been influenced by liberal thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Just now, JaCrispy said: Are you asking if the Biblical God has a gender? Or are you asking what the sex of the Biblical God is? Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Back to the thread. Americans Overwhelmingly Reject Progressive’s Gender Ideology Agenda At this point, finding a poll favorable to progressives and Democrats is like finding a steak in a vegan restaurant – it is rare in more ways than one. Yet another study further demonstrates what most of us already know: Progressives are not in touch with regular, everyday folks. Nevertheless, they still don’t get it. A new survey conducted by YouGov for SAVE, an education advocacy group, revealed that a majority of Americans are not in favor of the administration’s plan. According to the organization’s press release, about 63 percent of Americans wish to keep the “traditional biological definition” in place while only 37 percent welcomed the Biden administration’s plan to change it. The poll also found that 71 percent of respondents opposed allowing biological men to compete in women’s sports. Only 29 percent supported the idea. {snip} He added: “For the federal government to come in and really tie school nutrition and school lunch programs to this radical ideology is terrifying, and it’s appalling.” This raises an important question: Are progressives truly this out of touch with the American people? Or are they pushing this agenda because they believe they can succeed despite what we think? If this is the case, we can’t expect them to pull back anytime soon. We can’t expect to reason with these folks. The only way to stop this agenda is to fight back. https://redstate.com/jeffc/2022/06/07/americans-overwhelmingly-reject-progressives-gender-ideology-agenda-n575722 IT'S A RELIGION. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 But if God is transgender, why can't real people be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 3 hours ago, unbillievable said: Every time I meet someone, i have to navigate a minefield of pronouns and micro-aggressive dialogues to avoid possible offenses that neither one of us probably even care about, but might trigger a liberal nutjob nearby. So I am inconvenienced constantly. I had a conversation with someone on TikTok or somewhere. They said "you're likely the kind of person that refers to a cat as she and a dog as he!" I said "cats and dogs don't give a rats ass what you call them. All they want is unconditional love. Be more like a cat or dog!" Funny, they had no reply. Regarding being inconvenienced. I don't navigate any of that. I do me and this may sound cruel but I really don't give a ***** about what they want me to call them. As the comedian Steven Hughes said "when did sticks and stones may break my bones stop being relevant?" 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: But if God is transgender, why can't real people be? But god doesn't exist so neither do transgender people How about that logic Tibsy my boy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 I don't see as fair once man (tranny) competing against women . Do once women ever compete against men and win ? Just curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, ALF said: I don't see as fair once man (tranny) competing against women . Do once women ever compete against men and win ? Just curious My once and always female sister competed against men in tennis in HS during the 70' seeing there was no women's team. And yes she won several matches against men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 4 hours ago, Tiberius said: “…straight, Christian men and women ..Many are, ha ha, in jail …” The cult of hate and elitism in a nutshell quoted here…. Cheers people with religious values, living in synch with their biology being incarcerated. They must be the enemy!!! 9 minutes ago, ALF said: I don't see as fair once man (tranny) competing against women . Do once women ever compete against men and win ? Just curious I would think a woman that identifies as a man would have a competitive edge against men in a drag queen beauty pageant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 49 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: The cult of hate and elitism in a nutshell quoted here…. Cheers people with religious values, living in synch with their biology being incarcerated. They must be the enemy!!! I would think a woman that identifies as a man would have a competitive edge against men in a drag queen beauty pageant. Elitism? Trump is an elitist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 1 hour ago, B-Man said: Back to the thread. Americans Overwhelmingly Reject Progressive’s Gender Ideology Agenda And the word "progress" defined as moving in the direction of a better or improved condition takes offense at being associated with any of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Elitism? Trump is an elitist must hurt to realize you and he are the same huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: must hurt to realize you and he are the same huh? @Tiberius You have a golden toilet and bankrupted a bunch of casinos??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: But if God is transgender, why can't real people be? Real people? As opposed to what other kind of people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: is God male? His son was a man and we were made in his image so you can take it from there . But when i do meet god i will let you know . Or better yet when you see god you can ask for your self . Because we know how you are when you here things second hand . Edited June 7, 2022 by T master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 22 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: @Tiberius You have a golden toilet and bankrupted a bunch of casinos??? Nope, never have, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 2 hours ago, B-Man said: Back to the thread. Americans Overwhelmingly Reject Progressive’s Gender Ideology Agenda At this point, finding a poll favorable to progressives and Democrats is like finding a steak in a vegan restaurant – it is rare in more ways than one. Yet another study further demonstrates what most of us already know: Progressives are not in touch with regular, everyday folks. Nevertheless, they still don’t get it. A new survey conducted by YouGov for SAVE, an education advocacy group, revealed that a majority of Americans are not in favor of the administration’s plan. According to the organization’s press release, about 63 percent of Americans wish to keep the “traditional biological definition” in place while only 37 percent welcomed the Biden administration’s plan to change it. The poll also found that 71 percent of respondents opposed allowing biological men to compete in women’s sports. Only 29 percent supported the idea. {snip} He added: “For the federal government to come in and really tie school nutrition and school lunch programs to this radical ideology is terrifying, and it’s appalling.” This raises an important question: Are progressives truly this out of touch with the American people? Or are they pushing this agenda because they believe they can succeed despite what we think? If this is the case, we can’t expect them to pull back anytime soon. We can’t expect to reason with these folks. The only way to stop this agenda is to fight back. https://redstate.com/jeffc/2022/06/07/americans-overwhelmingly-reject-progressives-gender-ideology-agenda-n575722 IT'S A RELIGION. They keep pushing this ideology because they know that eventually all those that were raised with any moral values and that have a tendency to use common sense are dying off or will be dying off so if they continue to push & brain wash the younger generation it will one day become a law because morals & common sense will be a thing of the past . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, T master said: His son was a man and we were made in his image so you can take it from there . But when i do meet god i will let you know . Or better yet when you see god you can ask for your self . Because we know how you are when you here things second hand . Why is jesus always shown as some white dude? He was a middle easterner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Why is jesus always shown as some white dude? He was a middle easterner Because of stupid people they don't know any better . I had a black man once ask me if i knew jesus was black i said sir i don't know i've never met him . But like i said either you or i can ask him when it's our turn ... Next question . Or Trump caricature . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, T master said: Because of stupid people they don't know any better . I had a black man once ask me if i knew jesus was black i said sir i don't know i've never met him . But like i said either you or i can ask him when it's our turn ... Next question . Or Trump caricature . Is God an active agent in the world or did he just set the world in motion like a clock and leave it to us? Both opinions are deeply based in historical tradition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Is God an active agent in the world or did he just set the world in motion like a clock and leave it to us? Both opinions are deeply based in historical tradition I'm no sure what historical tradition your are referring to but i feel the earth is Satan's play ground if you don't believe it alls you have to do is look around . God is active in some respects here with certain people but the powers that be along with others have been trying for many many years to do away with any type of moral structure no matter what head line the might fall under . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 1 minute ago, T master said: I'm no sure what historical tradition your are referring to but i feel the earth is Satan's play ground if you don't believe it alls you have to do is look around . God is active in some respects here with certain people but the powers that be along with others have been trying for many many years to do away with any type of moral structure no matter what head line the might fall under . Not sure what that means. Is God active in you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Not sure what that means. Is God active in you? Alls you have to do is read & comprehend what is written but Yes i believe he is . Edited June 7, 2022 by T master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, T master said: Alls you have to do is read & comprehend what is written but Yes i believe he is . The Bible? You realize that people have been reading and interpreting that book in innumerable different ways and have killed each other over interpretations? Ya? You you a member of the Elect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: The Bible? You realize that people have been reading and interpreting that book in innumerable different ways and have killed each other over interpretations? Ya? You you a member of the Elect? Well that's just like anything you interpret things much differently than i do you can read 1 thing and interpret it exactly opposite from what i do and you have and will continue to make that very apparent . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 44 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Why is jesus always shown as some white dude? He was a middle easterner Because the places you see these images are populated by white people. The paintings and statues were a way for illiterate people to relate. You cannot really be this clueless…..right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Because the places you see these images are populated by white people. The paintings and statues were a way for illiterate people to relate. You cannot really be this clueless…..right? You mean manipulated, right? They (you) are manipulated by religion 33 minutes ago, T master said: Well that's just like anything you interpret things much differently than i do you can read 1 thing and interpret it exactly opposite from what i do and you have and will continue to make that very apparent . Everyone, not just you and me Almost as if there is no "truth" What is this thread about again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You mean manipulated, right? They (you) are manipulated by religion Your recent dialogue explains a lot. Enjoy the rest of your day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted June 7, 2022 Author Share Posted June 7, 2022 24 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Because the places you see these images are populated by white people. The paintings and statues were a way for illiterate people to relate. You cannot really be this clueless…..right? It’s just a way to distract from the topic at hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 52 minutes ago, T master said: Alls you have to do is read & comprehend what is written but Yes i believe he is . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: You mean manipulated, right? They (you) are manipulated by religion Everyone, not just you and me Almost as if there is no "truth" What is this thread about again? Todays truth is much different than the truth of the past the truth as it really is is no longer seen as such because the individual wants to instead of seeing things as they truly are see things the way they want to interpret them which in some cases has become totally twisted . So in your statement that " Almost as there is no truth " you are correct because everything is looked at as i have said to you before backwards - good as evil, evil as good, dark as light, light as dark, sweet as bitter, bitter as sweet, truth as untruth, untruth as reality . 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Looks as if she could be one of OAC's friends calling out a narcissist . But if those are following what the fore fathers set up the way the country was to be governed & by what is in the constitution and there is a majority that are lead by & set that standard then those are probably the true Americans . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: It’s just a way to distract from the topic at hand... Obviously…but it exposes so much about the ‘root cause’ of his world view. Yet, look at the Ukrainian war thread and he’s in there like a sports fanatic, like he’s watching a football game as millions of Christians are driven out of their homeland. Odd, on so many levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeKayAdams Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, JaCrispy said: Yes...When Matt Walsh is interviewing the green haired pediatrician, she responds “Whose truth?” insinuating that there is no objective truth of what a woman is (even though the official definition is adult human female), but rather everyone has their own truth- their own definition of what a woman is.... And imo, civilization will not be able to sustain itself if people cannot agree on a basic understanding of reality... Probably among the most salient sentences that have ever been written in this subforum, yet you chose video links from an obvious right-wing grifter like Matt Walsh over highly cited research from biologists who devote their lives to the study of gender science? Which side, exactly, is in a religious cult?? “What is a woman?” Is that your honest question? The answer is that gender identity is a bit more nuanced than chromosomes and reproductive systems. For whatever still undetermined reason or combination of reasons (genetics, prenatal development, etc.), the brain development of a small percentage of people does not match their visible outside markers of gender distinction. When I say “brain development,” I’m referring to the observable differences between a stereotypical male brain and female brain in terms of structural composition and neural activity. Early studies of transgender people are showing this discrepancy to be the case for them. Neuroscience is an extremely complex subject that you could say is very much still in its infancy, so that’s why the scientific community tends to prevaricate when asked about definitive gender identification protocols. I suppose our society can eventually reach a point where we demand expensive brain scans and elaborate neuroimaging for every single person who wants to identify as a gender incongruous with their physical bodies, but in the meantime…it’s a lot easier to simply ask them. Whatever happened to “live and let live” from the political right, anyway? The lives of transgender people are already extremely difficult (especially throughout their adolescence), so why not just leave them alone instead of amplifying the hatred and discrimination and bullying? EDIT: Note that competitive sports participation and hormone therapy for legal minors ARE legitimate debates to be had on the subject of transgenderism, but they can’t be had with a debate side that disregards these human beings as psychological “freaks” and “weirdos.” Go out and meet actual transgender people and ask them about their lifelong gender-based thoughts and experiences. Edited June 8, 2022 by Delete_Account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 13 hours ago, T master said: Todays truth is much different than the truth of the past the truth Moral relativism? That's what you are arguing here 13 hours ago, T master said: Looks as if she could be one of OAC's friends calling out a narcissist . But if those are following what the fore fathers set up the way the country was to be governed & by what is in the constitution and there is a majority that are lead by & set that standard then those are probably the true Americans . Yes, they set up a republic based, in large part, on majority rule. You win the election, you win. People trying to overturn the will of the people are anti-American. Like Trump and his gang that attacked our national legislature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 39 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Moral relativism? That's what you are arguing here Yes, they set up a republic based, in large part, on majority rule. You win the election, you win. People trying to overturn the will of the people are anti-American. Like Trump and his gang that attacked our national legislature They were NOT trying to overturn the will of the people. They were led to believe that the election was a fraud. But you know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: They were NOT trying to overturn the will of the people. They were led to believe that the election was a fraud. But you know that. And the people who led them to believe that? They are guilty of conspiracy? I say of course they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 22 minutes ago, Tiberius said: And the people who led them to believe that? They are guilty of conspiracy? I say of course they are Please explain….Conspiracy with what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 How is the GENDER IDEOLOGY thread going ? 🐿️ 🐿️ 🐿️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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