YoloinOhio Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) Quote The Bills have announced the following moves within the coaching staff. John Butler, the current defensive backs coach, adds passing game coordinator to his title. Butler has spent the last four seasons as Buffalo's defensive backs coach. Butler helped oversee a unit that finished as the best pass defense (allowing 163 pass yards per game) in the NFL and was a part of the best overall defense (allow 272.8 yards per game) and scoring defense (allow 17 points per game) in the NFL in 2021. Before joining the Bills, Butler spent four years coaching the Houston Texans secondary. He has also coached at several colleges like Penn State, South Carolina, Minnesota, Harvard and more. So no more “Nickel Coach” (I think the Bills were the only team that had someone in this specific role) Edited February 24, 2022 by YoloinOhio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Quote Buffalo will add these six new coaches to the staff. The team named former quarterback Kyle Shurmur their defensive quality control coach, Nick Lacy the new strength and conditioning assistant coach, Marcus West the new assistant defensive line coach, Jaylon Finner the new defensive quality control coach, Cory Harkey the new assistant special teams coach and Austin Gund will take over as the fellowship coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Maybe a dumb question, but does that mean DEFENSIVE Passing Game coordinator? Or is he going to be working on the Offensive side of the ball too? I know Dorsey was our previous "passing game coordinator", obviously on the O side. I havent heard of that position for the Defense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Maybe a dumb question, but does that mean DEFENSIVE Passing Game coordinator? Or is he going to be working on the Offensive side of the ball too? I know Dorsey was our previous "passing game coordinator", obviously on the O side. I havent heard of that position for the Defense. Same thing I was wondering, but I think it implies offense. Never heard of a passing game coordinator on the defensive side unless he’s the defensive backs coach. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Maybe a dumb question, but does that mean DEFENSIVE Passing Game coordinator? Or is he going to be working on the Offensive side of the ball too? I know Dorsey was our previous "passing game coordinator", obviously on the O side. I havent heard of that position for the Defense. Not dumb to me. I found it curious as well. Is this a bit of “it takes one to know one” situation? Who better to design a passing game than the guy charged with preventing the passing game? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: Same thing I was wondering, but I think it implies offense. Never heard of a passing game coordinator on the defensive side unless he’s the defensive backs coach. Just now, Augie said: Not dumb to me. I found it curious as well. Is this a bit of “it takes one to know one” situation? Who better to design a passing game than the guy charged with preventing the passing game? McBeane playing 4D chess giving our coaches such crazy titles our opponents arent even sure who is doing what! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Maybe a dumb question, but does that mean DEFENSIVE Passing Game coordinator? Or is he going to be working on the Offensive side of the ball too? I know Dorsey was our previous "passing game coordinator", obviously on the O side. I havent heard of that position for the Defense. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Process said: Thank you, Process and Sal! That makes more sense. Interesting, as that might hint at Butler being the DC-in-waiting? What do folks think about that? Also interesting that Butler was a High School team mate of McD. NFL coaching nepotism at every turn... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 22 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Maybe a dumb question, but does that mean DEFENSIVE Passing Game coordinator? Or is he going to be working on the Offensive side of the ball too? I know Dorsey was our previous "passing game coordinator", obviously on the O side. I havent heard of that position for the Defense. I had the same question 5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Thank you, Process and Sal! That makes more sense. Interesting, as that might hint at Butler being the DC-in-waiting? What do folks think about that? Also interesting that Butler was a High School team mate of McD. NFL coaching nepotism at every turn... Not really nepotism, just a connection. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 19 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: McBeane playing 4D chess giving our coaches such crazy titles our opponents arent even sure who is doing what! I mean… what even is a Fellowship Coach? 🤨 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, UConn James said: I mean… what even is a Fellowship Coach? 🤨 it’s an intern https://operations.nfl.com/inside-football-ops/players-legends/nfl-player-engagement/support-for-players-on-and-off-the-field/bill-walsh-diversity-coaching-fellowship/ Edited February 24, 2022 by YoloinOhio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, UConn James said: I mean… what even is a Fellowship Coach? 🤨 They handle all Sauron related business? 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 23 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: McBeane playing 4D chess giving our coaches such crazy titles our opponents arent even sure who is doing what! Wouldn't this be simpler? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 I do hope that means Passing Defensive Coordinator. Butler has been on the defensive side of things his entire career. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Augie said: Not dumb to me. I found it curious as well. Is this a bit of “it takes one to know one” situation? Who better to design a passing game than the guy charged with preventing the passing game? Yet 90% of this board was up in arms because David culley was hired as a quarterback coach and he had a history as a wide receiver coach lol How could a wide receiver coach quarterbacks this website said lol Despite the fact that he himself was a division one quarterback and supposed to be a film guru Lots of football coaches could coach multiple position group on the field.. and probably has at some point in their career.. it's a long road to the NFL.. most start coaching high School... Andy Reid was historically a offensive line coach.. he gets his chance to be a quarterback coach to favre and now he's a guru.. sometime that all it takes for a coach And there are also defensive passing game coordinators.. could be that Edited February 24, 2022 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 I was intrigued with the idea of Butler as the DC if Frazier ended up leaving. This added title leads me to think that McDermott had the same idea. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 If the Bills are looking for a “Fan Interface Coordinator”, I’m qualified. I played center in Little League but I can make the transition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 hours ago, UConn James said: I mean… what even is a Fellowship Coach? 🤨 It’s about outreach to the players that may have needs, I guess…, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Dorsey was given the offensive pass game coordinator title a year before he was promoted to OC. This makes me think that Butler (not Washington) would be in line to take over for Leslie Frazier if he gets a HCing job, or the Bills decide to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 hour ago, WotAGuy said: If the Bills are looking for a “Fan Interface Coordinator”, I’m qualified. I played center in Little League but I can make the transition. My son’s buddy was the QB of his high school freshman team. He had played QB in little league so that seemed like he had a step up on the others. That is…..until it came out that his center was a girl. He not only lost credibility, but it led to some serious ribbing! I mean, what are a bunch of HS freshman boys going to do with that? 😂 Sorry, gotta brag: by senior year our son was the QB, First Team All-Area, POY and got college interest. (He passed, no pun intended.) It was worth staying in a little 2 BR rental in Florida so he could finish his senior year. Special times for him…and us. Then moved to our ATL home upon graduation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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