Augie Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 I’d like to see younger, cheaper and better players the Bills found thru the draft. Chasing Big Names with big contracts is rarely the best path, IMO. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Success said: I mean, this would be an incredible move. I don't know why it's getting some derision. Because he has a proven track record of being injured. They guy can't stay healthy. What makes you think he will with the Bills? If you want a quality guy for mayne a half season then I get it. He should be nicknamed McGlass... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Because he has a proven track record of being injured. They guy can't stay healthy. What makes you think he will with the Bills? If you want a quality guy for mayne a half season then I get it. He should be nicknamed McGlass... But the Bills have the best training facilities. 😁😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted February 22, 2022 Author Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Augie said: I’d like to see younger, cheaper and better players the Bills found thru the draft. Chasing Big Names with big contracts is rarely the best path, IMO. McCaffery is 25 years old. He's younger than Joe Burrow. He's also an even swap in terms of CAP hit if we traded Beasley. There's risk involved, but McCaffery basically had to shoulder the whole Panther team and he's just not built for it. In Buffalo he'd be playing with an Elite playmaker at QB and an Elite WR and could be a complimentary but dangerous weapon on our offense. I will be okay with what Beane does, but where is our guaranteed playmaker on the field in the draft? That's exactly what McCaffery is if he's healthy and on the field. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: McCaffery is 25 years old. He's younger than Joe Burrow. He's also an even swap in terms of CAP hit if we traded Beasley. There's risk involved, but McCaffery basically had to shoulder the whole Panther team and he's just not built for it. In Buffalo he'd be playing with an Elite playmaker at QB and an Elite WR and could be a complimentary but dangerous weapon on our offense. I will be okay with what Beane does, but where is our guaranteed playmaker on the field in the draft? That's exactly what McCaffery is if he's healthy and on the field. He will be 26 next year, but that’s not my issue. I’m not paying that much for a slot receiver with his injury history. People always want “Big Names”. I want the NEXT big name, at a discount. Some guy I’ve never heard of, but a guy our scouts are smart enough to identify. THAT is how you get ahead! One of the best things about a first round pick is that they are cheap for 4-5 years. I don’t want to trade that for an injury plagued guy who is already expensive. Sure, he’s a great player when available. I just don’t like the cost that goes with the risk. JMO. . Edited February 22, 2022 by Augie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: McCaffery is 25 years old. He's younger than Joe Burrow. He's also an even swap in terms of CAP hit if we traded Beasley. There's risk involved, but McCaffery basically had to shoulder the whole Panther team and he's just not built for it. In Buffalo he'd be playing with an Elite playmaker at QB and an Elite WR and could be a complimentary but dangerous weapon on our offense. I will be okay with what Beane does, but where is our guaranteed playmaker on the field in the draft? That's exactly what McCaffery is if he's healthy and on the field. Big "if" I must say. His track record clearly indicates he cannot stay healthy. I don't buy you argument on how he would stay healthy on the Bills team. Conversely, I don't buy that he got hurt in Carolina because he was over used. Are you suggesting he gets like 10 touches a game? The guy is like peanut brittle. Hard pass for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 If the price is Beasley plus a 3rd and a 5th, I make that deal. Bills would owe $8.6m in year 1 and none of the money is guaranteed. Worth the risk in my opinion. 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted February 22, 2022 Author Share Posted February 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Big "if" I must say. His track record clearly indicates he cannot stay healthy. I don't buy you argument on how he would stay healthy on the Bills team. Conversely, I don't buy that he got hurt in Carolina because he was over used. Are you suggesting he gets like 10 touches a game? The guy is like peanut brittle. Hard pass for me. So you're okay keeping a slot WR who's turned into peanut brittle at his age rather than exchanging him for a much younger but much more dynamic weapon? And hell... why not 10 touches a game? That's more than what Beasley gets? It's more than what Diggs, Davis or Knox gets, too. I went back and looked and had to double check, but McCaffery was injury free his first 3 years in the NFL and only actually got the injury bug the last 2 years, unlike a guy like Saquan Barkley or Dalvin Cook who are injured every year. Yes, this would be a bit of a roll of the dice, but given our strapped Cap, we might find it worthwhile gambling on an Elite 25 year old NFL talent. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 35 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Because he has a proven track record of being injured. They guy can't stay healthy. What makes you think he will with the Bills? If you want a quality guy for mayne a half season then I get it. He should be nicknamed McGlass... Players are injury prone, until they're not. What I always ask myself is, "What if KC or one of our division rivals made this move?" It would be very concerning. And the reaction around the league if the Bills did it would be a collective groan (from non-Bills fans, of course). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 hey it's "lets go get shiny objects" time! Thought I'd have a few more days before having to s--t all over this kind of garbage. Guess the season is early this year. No. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted February 22, 2022 Author Share Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Florida Bills Fanatic said: The entire scenario is utterly ridiculous. The Panthers aren't going to give away their best player for almost nothing, nor are the Bills in the position to commit that much cap space. Read the article... this proposal was by a guy who gets paid to examine NFL contracts not some Joe Schmo or some Florida Bills Fanatic. 1 hour ago, wppete said: Would like to see both of them on the Bills next year. Beasley at Slot and Mccafrey at RB. Don't know if this is a joke, but it would require a trade. 1 hour ago, newcam2012 said: Because he has a proven track record of being injured. They guy can't stay healthy. What makes you think he will with the Bills? If you want a quality guy for mayne a half season then I get it. He should be nicknamed McGlass... He was healthy and uninjured 3 out of his 5 years in the NFL Edited February 22, 2022 by transplantbillsfan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Success said: I mean, this would be an incredible move. I don't know why it's getting some derision. I don’t have a problem bringing him in, the money can be balanced out and he is an elite talent when healthy. I just don’t want to then limit his utility by turning him into a strict slot guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 I think people are underestimating CMC’s trade value. Beasley, a 3rd, and a 5th? We going to throw in Cody Ford while we are at it? If they move CMC, he will probably net Carolina a 1st round pick and he would probably agree to restructure to make the deal work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Jesus Christ 3 hours ago, mushypeaches said: That says it all about another brilliant off-season idea Think He would sign? 🤔 WWJD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted February 22, 2022 Author Share Posted February 22, 2022 54 minutes ago, Augie said: He will be 26 next year, but that’s not my issue. I’m not paying that much for a slot receiver with his injury history. People always want “Big Names”. I want the NEXT big name, at a discount. Some guy I’ve never heard of, but a guy our scouts are smart enough to identify. THAT is how you get ahead! Sure, he’s a great player when available. I just don’t like the cost that goes with the risk. JMO. Why can't we get the next Superstar AND McCaffery? It's not like we don't have 9 draft picks and potentially 1 or 2 compensatory picks coming. Beane and his scouting department can still find the next superstar in the mid to later rounds (Kamara, AB, Tyreek Hill, Diggs, etc.) while acquiring an established superstar... when healthy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Why can't we get the next Superstar AND McCaffery? It's not like we don't have 9 draft picks and potentially 1 or 2 compensatory picks coming. Beane and his scouting department can still find the next superstar in the mid to later rounds (Kamara, AB, Tyreek Hill, Diggs, etc.) while acquiring an established superstar... when healthy. Sure, swing for the fences, but don’t pay thru the nose for a a “big name” with a well known injury history. Step back, look at the big picture. I’d prefer Gabe Davis over McCaffrey going forward, especially given the cap expense. Get the next Gabe with the draft picks you saved. Use the savings for guys we need to keep. I don’t like the idea of shopping for bling. I like nuts and bolts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I think people are underestimating CMC’s trade value. Beasley, a 3rd, and a 5th? We going to throw in Cody Ford while we are at it? If they move CMC, he will probably net Carolina a 1st round pick and he would probably agree to restructure to make the deal work. Beasley has more value to a team without an established QB. It’s hard getting quality free agent WR’s to play for a Sam Darnold or Daniel Jones without significantly over-paying. And Beasley can still be a young QB’s best friend. I think he has more trade value than people think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 26 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Beasley has more value to a team without an established QB. It’s hard getting quality free agent WR’s to play for a Sam Darnold or Daniel Jones without significantly over-paying. And Beasley can still be a young QB’s best friend. I think he has more trade value than people think. I think that makes some sense. But Beasley is 33, been hobbled, and is on the last year of his contract. Just sort of seems like an odd asset for the Panthers in their current situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 The proposed trade seems like a moderate risk, high reward move. I don't think Beasley coming back at his price makes any sense, but I do think exchanging him for CMC at roughly the same price (minus a couple draft assets) is at least worth consideration. People laughing off this proposal must be reacting emotionally. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 The Bills could just re-sign McKenzie. Problem solved. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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