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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Cuba does not have democracy. Socialism imposed by dictators is different than the people elected a government and making decisions. 

 

Can you understand that? 

 

I usually just laugh at your posts but this one takes the cake.   Educate me.  How is socialism different when it is implemented by elected officials vs dictators?  This ought to be a doosey.  What a mess.  

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12 minutes ago, Irv said:

 

I usually just laugh at your posts but this one takes the cake.   Educate me.  How is socialism different when it is implemented by elected officials vs dictators?  This ought to be a doosey.  What a mess.  

 

so boring

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6 minutes ago, Irv said:

 

I usually just laugh at your posts but this one takes the cake.   Educate me.  How is socialism different when it is implemented by elected officials vs dictators?  This ought to be a doosey.  What a mess.  

Our friend fails to inform us that ultimately even "elected" socialist systems degenerate into the dictatorship model.  The reality that the most productive members of society will choose to exit such a situation must be dealt with by forcing them to stay.  And as democratic societies work they generally do not share this characteristic.  So government force and coercion becomes a necessity.  

 

But the fatal flaw of socialism and communism is they ultimately descend into the equal distribution of nothing.  Poverty for everyone but the political elite.   If you want a firsthand assessment find somebody like my acquaintances that grew up under the Soviet system and watched it fall prior to emigrating the US.  They think the lefties here are at best naive idiots and at worst a danger to freedom and democracy to desire such a system.   

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1 hour ago, sherpa said:

 

So I guess that means that Venezuela is your model?

 

Good Lord.. the gross, abject acknowledgement on the failure of socialist economic institutions is astounding.

How many generations need to pay that price?

That's a dictatorship, too. Lol 

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2 minutes ago, Bidens_basement said:

You don’t have a clue what you want, you just want to see this great country burn. What a traitor!

You are insane. Are you still waiting for Obamacare to kill the world like you all said it would? Morons 

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1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

Communist tyranny

 

Why do tons of socialists try to say they're not related? 

 

100% socialism and communism are connected

 

China is a socialist country ran by the communist China of party.. Cuba is a socialist country ran by the Communist party of Cuba 

 

Socialism and communism go hand in hand

 

Ask karl marx

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The irony of this thread (and forum) is nobody is in true disagreement of how awful socialism and communism are.  There’s just 2-3 posters (and their many sub accounts) that spend day in and out pretending they welcome it, just to get a rise out of people.  

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2 minutes ago, Frat-Train said:

The irony of this thread (and forum) is nobody is in true disagreement of how awful socialism and communism are.  There’s just 2-3 posters (and their many sub accounts) that spend day in and out pretending they welcome it, just to get a rise out of people.  

Your imaginary enemies. Glad you're now realizing it after our talk yesterday.

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13 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Venezuela is a dictatorship you idiot 

 

Maduro was elected, was he not?  That is, until he wasn't.  But surely a government can't gain so much power as to make elections moot!

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5 minutes ago, Frat-Train said:

The irony of this thread (and forum) is nobody is in true disagreement of how awful socialism and communism are.  There’s just 2-3 posters (and their many sub accounts) that spend day in and out pretending they welcome it, just to get a rise out of people.  

 

Don't you know socialism is good if implemented by the duly elected and not dictators?  Ask Tiberius.   What a mess.    

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Venezuela is a dictatorship you idiot 

 

I am pleased that you call me an idiot.

I have spent many, many of days in Venezuela and watched what has happened first hand.

I am well aware of their political system.

I am well aware of Jimmy Carter going down there to judge their elections, elections that were "democratically" conducted, as he endorsed them.

Otherwise, he would not have gone. 

Want to tell Jimmy that it is not a "democracy?"

He went down there to endorse a dictatorship?

 

I would prefer to not insult posters here, but you sir, are absolutely ignorant.

 

 

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