Tommy Callahan Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 how does a law that requires books in schools to be free of pornography; instruction on sexual orientation or gender identity in kindergarten through third grade; and discrimination “in such a way that an individual, by virtue of his or her race, color, sex or national origin, is inherently racist or oppressive, whether consciously or unconsciously.”?? cover those books? its crazy. but then again maybe its some districts going overboard trying to interpret the new changes. The group they are sourcing for that reporting is the PEN America PAC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 38 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Teaching about how a famous baseball player experienced prejudice and racism? CANT HAVE THAT!! Lunacy. Government sucks no matter who controls it. It’s certainly not filled with the best and brightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 17 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Yeah, this one should be clean and pretty down-the middle. https://triblive.com/sports/pirates/florida-school-district-pulls-childrens-book-about-roberto-clemente-off-shelve/ Thanks for that Roundy, I think the reason the book(per the linked article) is being looked at is because teachers may use the content about racism to further an agenda to teach all white people are evil racists. But I mean come on, to pretend there was no, and still is racism in this country is ridiculous. Is there now no longer any middle ground? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 16 hours ago, redtail hawk said: The linked article gives no specifics on the cuts other than restructuring and non sports content. But if you want to link one that does, I'll read it. WSJ (paywalled) explains it nicely. The streaming wars are killing profits, and content production costs are a big part of it too. No indication of any drop off in park attendance, etc. a fundamentally very strong company going forward. What no analyst is saying: that people are running away from Disney because of its political stances. These political backlash/boycott things almost never work. Either way. I remember the Chick-fil-a fallout that was supposed to ruin them. They’re doing just fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: Teaching about how a famous baseball player experienced prejudice and racism? CANT HAVE THAT!! From the Buffalo News article. Clemente's son reacts Roberto Clemente Jr., Clemente's oldest son, said he initially was taken aback after learning that the book was removed from school shelves. But after researching the issue and then rereading the book, which he owns, he said he is "not really going to fuss about it." Referring to a part in the book where the Pirates legend said he encountered discrimination because he was Black and Puerto Rican, Clemente Jr. said, "I think that statement is where they had that issue." Clemente Jr., who lives in the South Hills, added: "If you have a child who does not see color on anyone and you're going to now plant that seed that we are a different color, that is where I agree 100%. We are the same as far as I am concerned. We are all the human race." "I would teach my son about racism because I went through it personally. But putting that issue out there in school, especially with very young children, opens the door to how teachers could possibly use it for their agenda." Amen sir, THAT is how a MAN reacts to this. Sorry your weak-ass Desantis attack was undone in your own post 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Just now, B-Man said: From the Buffalo News article. Clemente's son reacts Roberto Clemente Jr., Clemente's oldest son, said he initially was taken aback after learning that the book was removed from school shelves. But after researching the issue and then rereading the book, which he owns, he said he is "not really going to fuss about it." Referring to a part in the book where the Pirates legend said he encountered discrimination because he was Black and Puerto Rican, Clemente Jr. said, "I think that statement is where they had that issue." Clemente Jr., who lives in the South Hills, added: "If you have a child who does not see color on anyone and you're going to now plant that seed that we are a different color, that is where I agree 100%. We are the same as far as I am concerned. We are all the human race." "I would teach my son about racism because I went through it personally. But putting that issue out there in school, especially with very young children, opens the door to how teachers could possibly use it for their agenda." Amen sir, THAT is how a MAN reacts to this. Sorry your weak-ass Desantis attack was undone in your own post As a white kid growing up in Buffalo who hit reading age a few years after MLK was assassinated, I learned about civil rights and life in the pre-civil rights South by reading biographies of sports stars. Hank Aaron, Satchel Paige, and others. I think some of them actually used the “n” word in describing their experiences in the old South. I would hate to see books like that taken off library shelves. They taught me some valuable lessons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: As a white kid growing up in Buffalo who hit reading age a few years after MLK was assassinated, I learned about civil rights and life in the pre-civil rights South by reading biographies of sports stars. Hank Aaron, Satchel Paige, and others. I think some of them actually used the “n” word in describing their experiences in the old South. I would hate to see books like that taken off library shelves. They taught me some valuable lessons. I agree with you sir, my experience was the same. But in today's world of activism, school libraries should be conscious of what books are available for certain ages, because (unfortunately) there is increasing indoctrination as opposed to education. Sad, but true. In either case, the attempt to use this as some type of example why Ron Desantis is a "bad" man is transparent and wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: As a white kid growing up in Buffalo who hit reading age a few years after MLK was assassinated, I learned about civil rights and life in the pre-civil rights South by reading biographies of sports stars. Hank Aaron, Satchel Paige, and others. I think some of them actually used the “n” word in describing their experiences in the old South. I would hate to see books like that taken off library shelves. They taught me some valuable lessons. Great points. but the thing that stuck out the most is those schools must have sucked if you never were taught that. Especially as this state was a hot spot for the suffrage and abolitionist movements. Kinda reenforces the fact NYS schools lead the nation in cost and dropouts. not much else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 24 minutes ago, Chris farley said: Great points. but the thing that stuck out the most is those schools must have sucked if you never were taught that. Especially as this state was a hot spot for the suffrage and abolitionist movements. Kinda reenforces the fact NYS schools lead the nation in cost and dropouts. not much else. Absolutely I should’ve been taught that in school, in addition to my extracurricular reading. Later on I ordered a Scholastic book (anyone remember those?) about Frederick Douglass, and that one also made a big impression on me. I don’t agree with the “ban woke curricula” thing just as much as I don’t agree with the “ban Hank Aaron’s autobiography because he writes out the N word when he says what fans were yelling at him. This ban stuff is crazy. So are some school boards. I’m glad I learned about the embarrassing stain on America’s rise alongside learning about the tremendous vision of our founding fathers. But I am one of a shrinking number who seem able to handle the good with the bad. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Absolutely I should’ve been taught that in school, in addition to my extracurricular reading. Later on I ordered a Scholastic book (anyone remember those?) about Frederick Douglass, and that one also made a big impression on me. I don’t agree with the “ban woke curricula” thing just as much as I don’t agree with the “ban Hank Aaron’s autobiography because he writes out the N word when he says what fans were yelling at him. This ban stuff is crazy. So are some school boards. I’m glad I learned about the embarrassing stain on America’s rise alongside learning about the tremendous vision of our founding fathers. But I am one of a shrinking number who seem able to handle the good with the bad. I still remember a middle school tour of the Douglas Zion church with a Douglas actor doing a remake of his speech. it stuck. Now of days that would probably not make it to any curriculum. We are doing this wrong. Edited February 9, 2023 by Chris farley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Still no follow ups from the local lefties ? Even when a vote goes their way. Huh, it's almost like they just want to attack the governor and don't care about anything else. Plan to collect menstrual data on high school athletes in Florida is voted down February 9, 2023 1:53 PM By:Sarah McCammon (A vote ? oh no ! ) The Florida High School Athletic Association's board of directors has voted 14-2 to remove questions about high school athletes' menstrual history from a required health form for participation in high school athletics. Thursday's emergency meeting focused on the debate around menstrual cycle information. The vote comes after weeks of controversy surrounding questions on the medical form, which is typically filled out by a physician and submitted to schools. The board approved a recommendation by the association's director to remove the questions, which asked for details including the onset of an athlete's period and the date of that person's last menstrual cycle. https://www.gpb.org/news/2023/02/09/plan-collect-menstrual-data-on-high-school-athletes-in-florida-voted-down LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Here’s something we missed in our House Oversight Committee meeting coverage Wednesday. Rep. Maxwell Frost of Florida, who’s best known for being only 26 and a sitting congressman, is trying to make himself known as the next AOC: loud, liberal, and underinformed. Florida’s Voice reports that Frost suggested during Wednesday’s committee meeting that the committee bring in Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who’s been abusing his power to limit free speech. Florida’s Voice reports: During the GOP House Oversight Committee meeting Wednesday, Rep. Maxwell Frost, D-FL, floated the idea of bringing in governors, such as Gov. Ron DeSantis, to testify for “limiting free speech.” The hearing is the House Oversight and Accountability Committee’s “first step in examining the coordination between the federal government and Big Tech to restrict protected speech and interfere in the democratic process.” https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2023/02/09/rep-maxwell-frost-would-love-to-see-committee-bring-in-gov-ron-desantis-whos-limiting-free-speech/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 So hypocritical... but on brand. “DeSantis/his campaign will not tell their attendees they are not permitted to carry because of the political optics” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Haley? No. Pence? No. Pompeo? No. Sununu? No. “Now that it’s less than two years before the 2024 Presidential election, a small crop of Republicans whose last names are not ‘DeSantis’ or ‘Trump’ seem to have convinced themselves that they’re viable Republican presidential candidates.” https://www.battleswarmblog.com/?p=54112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: Haley? No. Pence? No. Pompeo? No. Sununu? No. “Now that it’s less than two years before the 2024 Presidential election, a small crop of Republicans whose last names are not ‘DeSantis’ or ‘Trump’ seem to have convinced themselves that they’re viable Republican presidential candidates.” https://www.battleswarmblog.com/?p=54112 They're just jockeying for VP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 9 hours ago, B-Man said: Haley? No. Pence? No. Pompeo? No. Sununu? No. “Now that it’s less than two years before the 2024 Presidential election, a small crop of Republicans whose last names are not ‘DeSantis’ or ‘Trump’ seem to have convinced themselves that they’re viable Republican presidential candidates.” https://www.battleswarmblog.com/?p=54112 I don't know, I'm gonna hear what they all have to say for themselves first. I definitely don't want President Trump. While I think Governor DeSantis can win the nomination I'm not so sure he can win the general. He's gone too overboard on the culture stuff. Democrats are better at this stuff than him and will eat him alive. Way too early to call for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 3 hours ago, reddogblitz said: I don't know, I'm gonna hear what they all have to say for themselves first. I definitely don't want President Trump. While I think Governor DeSantis can win the nomination I'm not so sure he can win the general. He's gone too overboard on the culture stuff. Democrats are better at this stuff than him and will eat him alive. Way too early to call for me. “Just cede the culture war, democrats are way better at it.” Politics are downstream of culture. You can’t win at politics without gaining ground in the culture war. Between that and election “fortification” republicans can’t beat the democrats in a meaningful election at the moment. Your attitude is why republicans are Losers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 On 2/9/2023 at 4:39 PM, B-Man said: Still no follow ups from the local lefties ? Even when a vote goes their way. Huh, it's almost like they just want to attack the governor and don't care about anything else. Plan to collect menstrual data on high school athletes in Florida is voted down February 9, 2023 1:53 PM By:Sarah McCammon (A vote ? oh no ! ) The Florida High School Athletic Association's board of directors has voted 14-2 to remove questions about high school athletes' menstrual history from a required health form for participation in high school athletics. Thursday's emergency meeting focused on the debate around menstrual cycle information. The vote comes after weeks of controversy surrounding questions on the medical form, which is typically filled out by a physician and submitted to schools. The board approved a recommendation by the association's director to remove the questions, which asked for details including the onset of an athlete's period and the date of that person's last menstrual cycle. https://www.gpb.org/news/2023/02/09/plan-collect-menstrual-data-on-high-school-athletes-in-florida-voted-down LOL. it should never have been an issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, LeviF said: “Just cede the culture war, democrats are way better at it.” Politics are downstream of culture. You can’t win at politics without gaining ground in the culture war. Between that and election “fortification” republicans can’t beat the democrats in a meaningful election at the moment. Your attitude is why republicans are Losers. yes, we need to ratchet it up. R's used to be the party of haves and wanna be's. We need to drastically increase the influence on wanna be's Edited February 14, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) Commie DeSantis wants you completely subservient to the state. You cannot disagree with the state or else you will be punished. Sad! Edited February 14, 2023 by Roundybout 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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