Doc Brown Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Brown already distancing himself from Paladino and Walton blasts him for taking two days to disavow him. Odds are Brown's doing a write in campaign or he wouldn't have distanced himself imo. https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/politics/buffalo-mayor-byron-brown-says-he-will-not-accept-support-from-carl-paladino/71-9e3e9f50-2ea0-4fe7-8eb0-9e53319988fe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 So by the couple of clips i watched it sounds like (and you can tell me if i'm wrong) that she is of the every one that participates gets a trophy mentality no matter if they actually contribute or not but just because you are here then you are entitled to all that is good and it should be given it for free ?? If this is what she is for (which i don't know) what ever happened to working for what you get rather than riding on the coat tails of those that bust their butts physically to make a better life for them selves and their families ? I don't mind helping those that can't help them selves but those that fleece the system & won't help themselves that would rather stand at a stop sign and ask for hand outs or get free phones from the gov't because they feel entitled despite all the "were hiring" signs would rather sit on their ass and do nothing for it can go piss up a rope . Sorry that's probably to harsh of me - NOT !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 On 6/24/2021 at 2:12 AM, Motorin' said: A 400k house in Buffalo (at 15 years, 25% down and 2.35 interest) is about $2,500 per month after taxes. A 750K home in Maryland (at 15 years, 25% down and 2.35 interest) is around $4,500 per month after taxes... That's 2,000 more per month buddy. At 30 years the Buffalo home is $1,700 less per month. Are you really trying to make us believe that the cost of property tax in Buffalo on a 400k house is as much as the mortgage on a 350k house with interest? It actually looks like Buffalo homes for 300k have 250% lower taxes than Annapolis MD home for 300k. https://www.redfin.com/NY/Buffalo/35-Cheltenham-Dr-14216/home/79325783 Buffalo - $98 per month https://www.redfin.com/MD/Annapolis/622-Wye-Island-Ct-21401/home/10452733A Annapolis - $268 per month The only place in Buffalo that you will find homes over 300 or 400K is in the neighborhood near Delaware Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 31 minutes ago, Wacka said: The only place in Buffalo that you will find homes over 300 or 400K is in the neighborhood near Delaware Park. Prices are on the rise, you'd be surprised how many homes are over 300k in the city itself these days. But it was surprising to learn that residents within the city pay a much smaller percentage of property tax that the suburbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Wacka said: The only place in Buffalo that you will find homes over 300 or 400K is in the neighborhood near Delaware Park. North Buffalo is full of homes for $300,000 Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted June 29, 2021 Author Share Posted June 29, 2021 On 6/28/2021 at 8:15 AM, T master said: So by the couple of clips i watched it sounds like (and you can tell me if i'm wrong) that she is of the every one that participates gets a trophy mentality no matter if they actually contribute or not but just because you are here then you are entitled to all that is good and it should be given it for free ?? If this is what she is for (which i don't know) what ever happened to working for what you get rather than riding on the coat tails of those that bust their butts physically to make a better life for them selves and their families ? I don't mind helping those that can't help them selves but those that fleece the system & won't help themselves that would rather stand at a stop sign and ask for hand outs or get free phones from the gov't because they feel entitled despite all the "were hiring" signs would rather sit on their ass and do nothing for it can go piss up a rope . Sorry that's probably to harsh of me - NOT !! if you truly are curious on her stances check out her website 1 hour ago, Wacka said: The only place in Buffalo that you will find homes over 300 or 400K is in the neighborhood near Delaware Park. Uhhh not in 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 8 hours ago, 716er said: if you truly are curious on her stances check out her website I did. Why do you think some people are panicking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 I'm emailing mayor brown in the morning to let him know I will help his independent campaign anyway possible Fundraising, door to door , anything to help him 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted June 30, 2021 Author Share Posted June 30, 2021 8 hours ago, Doc Brown said: I did. Why do you think some people are panicking? I was directing that to this guy. On 6/28/2021 at 8:15 AM, T master said: If this is what she is for (which i don't know) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeKayAdams Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 On 6/28/2021 at 12:49 AM, Doc Brown said: Brown already distancing himself from Paladino and Walton blasts him for taking two days to disavow him. Odds are Brown's doing a write in campaign or he wouldn't have distanced himself imo. https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/politics/buffalo-mayor-byron-brown-says-he-will-not-accept-support-from-carl-paladino/71-9e3e9f50-2ea0-4fe7-8eb0-9e53319988fe Probably, but the Brown write-in campaign idea is getting a lot of pushback from local and state leaders within the Democratic Party. Keep in mind the negative national media attention the situation will draw. Along with the optics of Brown not accepting the consequences for running a terrible mayoral primary campaign, this will only enflame the ongoing civil war between the party’s centrist and progressive wings. Democratic strategists across the country do not want the drama carrying into the midterm primaries. Furthermore, write-in campaigns rarely succeed. On 6/29/2021 at 2:40 PM, 716er said: if you truly are curious on her stances check out her website Yes, wouldn’t it be nice if our country could discuss issues like adults, instead of going off on drunken Chris Matthews-esque diatribes straight out of the Cold War era?? The claim against India Walton is that she is a dangerous wealth-destroying socialist. Looking at her website: I don’t even see her specifically calling for the raising of taxes on businesses, sales, property, or general wealth. Her campaign seems to emphasize the reallocation of current tax resources away from certain sectors like the police department and toward various infrastructure projects that more directly affect lower income communities. Her plans to address housing, education, and the environment are fairly mainstream liberal ideas now and not exactly without American municipal precedent. The stuff on pandemic recovery, food access, and the arts is all very anodyne. I guess one could call her ideas on immigration extreme, however. The apparent overarching theme in her campaign platform is that of looking out for minorities. As for India’s socialist bona fides, we have little to go on because she has no public office track record. The DSA endorses her, but their vetting process is not exactly known for its rigor. They will endorse practically any political candidate who is willing to publicly self-identify as a socialist. So truthfully, we have no idea if Walton’s long-term intentions are to rage against the feudalistic capitalism machine and lead a grassroots-based revolution whereby workers everywhere eventually come to own the means of production… At worst (read: most left-wing), she may only advocate for a stronger social safety net and a more progressive tax code like any run-of-the-mill social democrat. What we can safely assume is that India Walton will have a giant national media bullseye on her. Every single unfilled road pothole will be used against her very character and against far-left politics in general. Even among some on the far-left, the slightest of political compromises and moves toward centrism from her will likely attract accusations of selling out and of corruption (probably even from me at some later point lol…). Few people have the personality traits to thrive under such scrutiny. Fortunately, India’s inspirational biography suggests that she may be one of the few who can. Regardless of her political orientation, I wish her the best because I love the city of Buffalo and want to see it succeed above all else. Oh…final thoughts on the national media: I always enjoy their narratives. They entertain me. They delight me. One of them here is that so-called socialists like India Walton are the reason for cities like Buffalo having become failures. For one thing, there hasn’t been a socialist mayor in a major US city since 1960. For another, higher taxes that disincentivize business growth are not a distinctly socialist feature. But my main point of contention lies with the selective omission of perhaps the biggest explanation for Rust Belt decay: four decades of a failed Reaganomics ideology for the working class and for Millenials/Gen Z’ers. If people want to discuss what is perceived to be a rising popularity in socialism in this country (see: latest Axios+Momentive poll from June 11-15), how about a little bit of neoliberal culpability?? Let’s also include the impact of international free trade agreements on the deindustrialization of places like the Midwest. Let’s discuss how the collapse of unions has coincided with the obvious reversal in upward American socioeconomic mobility. Or how money that could have gone toward regenerative civil infrastructure projects has been diverted to the military-industrial complex and to American imperialism. Stuff like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 55 minutes ago, ComradeKayAdams said: Probably, but the Brown write-in campaign idea is getting a lot of pushback from local and state leaders within the Democratic Party. Keep in mind the negative national media attention the situation will draw. Along with the optics of Brown not accepting the consequences for running a terrible mayoral primary campaign, this will only enflame the ongoing civil war between the party’s centrist and progressive wings. Democratic strategists across the country do not want the drama carrying into the midterm primaries. Furthermore, write-in campaigns rarely succeed. Yes, wouldn’t it be nice if our country could discuss issues like adults, instead of going off on drunken Chris Matthews-esque diatribes straight out of the Cold War era?? The claim against India Walton is that she is a dangerous wealth-destroying socialist. Looking at her website: I don’t even see her specifically calling for the raising of taxes on businesses, sales, property, or general wealth. Her campaign seems to emphasize the reallocation of current tax resources away from certain sectors like the police department and toward various infrastructure projects that more directly affect lower income communities. Her plans to address housing, education, and the environment are fairly mainstream liberal ideas now and not exactly without American municipal precedent. The stuff on pandemic recovery, food access, and the arts is all very anodyne. I guess one could call her ideas on immigration extreme, however. The apparent overarching theme in her campaign platform is that of looking out for minorities. As for India’s socialist bona fides, we have little to go on because she has no public office track record. The DSA endorses her, but their vetting process is not exactly known for its rigor. They will endorse practically any political candidate who is willing to publicly self-identify as a socialist. So truthfully, we have no idea if Walton’s long-term intentions are to rage against the feudalistic capitalism machine and lead a grassroots-based revolution whereby workers everywhere eventually come to own the means of production… At worst (read: most left-wing), she may only advocate for a stronger social safety net and a more progressive tax code like any run-of-the-mill social democrat. What we can safely assume is that India Walton will have a giant national media bullseye on her. Every single unfilled road pothole will be used against her very character and against far-left politics in general. Even among some on the far-left, the slightest of political compromises and moves toward centrism from her will likely attract accusations of selling out and of corruption (probably even from me at some later point lol…). Few people have the personality traits to thrive under such scrutiny. Fortunately, India’s inspirational biography suggests that she may be one of the few who can. Regardless of her political orientation, I wish her the best because I love the city of Buffalo and want to see it succeed above all else. Oh…final thoughts on the national media: I always enjoy their narratives. They entertain me. They delight me. One of them here is that so-called socialists like India Walton are the reason for cities like Buffalo having become failures. For one thing, there hasn’t been a socialist mayor in a major US city since 1960. For another, higher taxes that disincentivize business growth are not a distinctly socialist feature. But my main point of contention lies with the selective omission of perhaps the biggest explanation for Rust Belt decay: four decades of a failed Reaganomics ideology for the working class and for Millenials/Gen Z’ers. If people want to discuss what is perceived to be a rising popularity in socialism in this country (see: latest Axios+Momentive poll from June 11-15), how about a little bit of neoliberal culpability?? Let’s also include the impact of international free trade agreements on the deindustrialization of places like the Midwest. Let’s discuss how the collapse of unions has coincided with the obvious reversal in upward American socioeconomic mobility. Or how money that could have gone toward regenerative civil infrastructure projects has been diverted to the military-industrial complex and to American imperialism. Stuff like that. Who cares what state leaders say? They haven't had the people's back in forever.. Buffalo has been on a small grind for 20 years turning the city around The last thing we need is a socialist destroying all the progress Who cares about negative media attention. The media is garbage and has turned our country against each other... Yeah Brown didn't run the best primary campaign.. but he could run a better independent campaign Let alone the fact that only 20,000 people voted in the primary.. literally half of what voted in 17 A city that's asleep voted in a socialist and we should get another chance to fix it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 On 6/29/2021 at 11:34 PM, Doc Brown said: I did. Why do you think some people are panicking? Incompetence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 9 hours ago, ComradeKayAdams said: Probably, but the Brown write-in campaign idea is getting a lot of pushback from local and state leaders within the Democratic Party. Keep in mind the negative national media attention the situation will draw. Along with the optics of Brown not accepting the consequences for running a terrible mayoral primary campaign, this will only enflame the ongoing civil war between the party’s centrist and progressive wings. Democratic strategists across the country do not want the drama carrying into the midterm primaries. Furthermore, write-in campaigns rarely succeed. Tepid pushback from what I've seen so far. I wouldn't write Brown off even with a write-in campaign with Buffalo slowly on the upswing. You'll get at least double the turnout this November compared to the primary with Republicans and Independents eligible to vote. I'm guessing more moderate democrats and Independents would rather see Brown in office than a self described socialist. They've already dug up her past to portray her as a welfare queen who wants to defund the police (crime is up in Buffalo and across the country) so Republican turnout should be high. Brown also has the incumbency advantage and a lot of money that will be at his disposal. I guess if there was ever a write in campaign that would be successful this would be it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 STOP THE STEAL Buffalo may eliminate the mayor’s office to prevent socialist India Walton from taking office in November https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/07/27/stop-the-steal-buffalo-may-eliminate-the-mayors-office-to-prevent-socialist-india-walton-from-taking-office-in-november/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Brown will win with a write in , bank on it. The change to City Manager would need a referendum but Nov 2021 is too soon if I heard right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) The fact we can even be close to this situation is scary Followed the Soviet playbook to a T... Infiltrate the educational systems... Demoralize the population.. infiltrate politics Destroy America from within Edited July 28, 2021 by Buffalo716 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: The fact we can even be close to this situation is scary Followed the Soviet playbook to a T... Infiltrate the educational systems... Demoralize the population.. infiltrate politics Destroy America from within You talking about Trump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BillStime said: You talking about Trump? Trump is like the most pro capitalist person you'll ever find.. it doesn't even matter if you like the guy or not That is indisputable We have active Communists and socialists in this country in office.. whatever you think about Trump.. he's the exact opposite of a communist socialist Trump made billions on bankrupt businesses foreclosures and the like... Literally capitalism to a T.. You can dislike the guy, I'm not even arguing for him.. but calling him a socialist or communist is a blatant lie Dude is as pro capitalism and is as pro military and pro America as you can get.. When did he infiltrate the school systems? And push unAmerican sentiments..... all whites are inherently racist... Critical race theory.. 65 different genders , America is evil . Everything straight up from the Soviet playbook Edited July 28, 2021 by Buffalo716 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Trump is like the most pro capitalist person you'll ever find.. it doesn't even matter if you like the guy or not That is indisputable We have active Communists and socialists in this country in office.. whatever you think about Trump.. he's the exact opposite of a communist socialist Trump made billions on bankrupt businesses foreclosures and the like... Literally capitalism to a T.. You can dislike the guy, I'm not even arguing for him.. but calling him a socialist or communist is a blatant lie Dude is as pro capitalism and is as pro military and pro America as you can get.. When did he infiltrate the school systems? And push unAmerican sentiments..... all whites are inherently racist... Critical race theory.. 65 different genders , America is evil . Everything straight up from the Soviet playbook thats qute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Hopefully this moron won't destroy the Buffalo economy as quickly and sugically as Biden ruined the country. What a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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