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ArdmoreRyno Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 20 minutes ago, BillStime said: Yeah - did you see how fast the klan jumped? Go Beto go! Again, grandstanding. That's what he did. Textbook. And the guy you mention is the towns mayor. But you don't give a sh*t because he's conservative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: Again, grandstanding. That's what he did. Textbook. And the guy you mention is the towns mayor. But you don't give a sh*t because he's conservative. Isn't it grandstanding for Abbott and Patrick to hold a press conference to say how sad they (and their spouses are), but essentially assure everyone that there is nothing they can do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, Buftex said: But, our freedoms? What’s your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: What’s your point? I don't disagree with what you posted, but what you are proposing is exactly the kind of thing far-right extremists flip-out over...the very reason they feel it is their god-given right to have guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdmoreRyno Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Buftex said: Isn't it grandstanding for Abbott and Patrick to hold a press conference to say how sad they (and their spouses are), but essentially assure everyone that there is nothing they can do? Question... do local, state and federal officials NOT hold press conferences after tragedies? On both sides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Buftex said: I don't disagree with what you posted, but what you are proposing is exactly the kind of thing far-right extremists flip-out over...the very reason they feel it is their god-given right to have guns. And why are we letting the extremes, which are likely a pretty decent minority, dictate policy? Both extremes. The far left screams OUR RIGHTS!! just as loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdmoreRyno Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 21 minutes ago, Buftex said: MANY states have constitutional carry. Many don't have mass shootings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 19 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: Again, grandstanding. That's what he did. Textbook. And the guy you mention is the towns mayor. But you don't give a sh*t because he's conservative. You are very quick to throw water on this issue... an issue that is terribly out of hand. It is quite clear that you think your right to posses a gun > than the life of those kids that died yesterday and the people in Buffalo last week. Enough is enough already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 minute ago, ArdmoreRyno said: Question... do local, state and federal officials NOT hold press conferences after tragedies? On both sides? Sure they do. Does that make it substantive? Why hold a press conference to let us know how sad they feel, but offer nothing else? It was grandstanding to the highest degree. Trying to change the subject, and take attention away from the criticism that they are receiving for openly fostering a gun-worshiping culture. They are the two most powerful men in the state...they got nothing but culture wars. O'Rourke (obviously in a losing battle) is showing them up...letting people see what absolute empty vessels they are, and letting people know, btw, there are alternatives. They can gerrymander the state as much as they like to assure the ultimate re-elections, unless people just finally get fed-up with their bs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 29 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: The constitution is manufactured? How wasn’t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 minute ago, ArdmoreRyno said: MANY states have constitutional carry. Many don't have mass shootings. So these idiots should probably be a little more concerned about their state, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, ArdmoreRyno said: Again, grandstanding. That's what he did. Textbook. And the guy you mention is the towns mayor. But you don't give a sh*t because he's conservative. No - Beto is doing the right thing and putting these klan members on the spot because these fks loosed gun laws.... Edited May 26, 2022 by BillStime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdmoreRyno Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Just now, BillStime said: You are very quick to throw water on this issue... an issue that is terribly out of hand. It is quite clear that you think your right to posses a gun > than the life of those kids that died yesterday and the people in Buffalo last week. Enough is enough already... Factually, it is. We have the 2A. It's a RIGHT. BTW: Murder is illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockpile233 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) Greg Abbott’s press conference just angered me. NO ***** that mental health is a problem everywhere in this country. Please tell me how to address this root cause. It’s an absurd copout as is someone saying to “ban (x) type of gun” When will we ***** compromise to save lives? Even suggesting 21 being the age to purchase is met with such swift venom that I know we’ll never get anywhere with it. These incidents, for some, are apparently an acceptable tax to pay. Edited May 25, 2022 by Rockpile233 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 Just now, ArdmoreRyno said: Factually, it is. We have the 2A. It's a RIGHT. BTW: Murder is illegal. There is nothing about your right to possess an AR-15 in the constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdmoreRyno Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Buftex said: Sure they do. Does that make it substantive? Why hold a press conference to let us know how sad they feel, but offer nothing else? It was grandstanding to the highest degree. Trying to change the subject, and take attention away from the criticism that they are receiving for openly fostering a gun-worshiping culture. They are the two most powerful men in the state...they got nothing but culture wars. O'Rourke (obviously in a losing battle) is showing them up...letting people see what absolute empty vessels they are, and letting people know, btw, there are alternatives. They can gerrymander the state as much as they like to assure the ultimate re-elections, unless people just finally get fed-up with their bs. You must have not watched it. 95% was informational. What happened, who it was, understanding of the gunman (criminal and mental health info), type of firearm, timeline, etc. Just now, BillStime said: There is nothing about your right to possess an AR-15 in the constitution. Ummm.... well, the SCOTUS already established it is a right. Try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: Factually, it is. We have the 2A. It's a RIGHT. BTW: Murder is illegal. THERE YOU GO FOLKS THIS IS THE ISSUE WITH THE CULT. THEIR RIGHT TO GUNS > THE RIGHT TO LIVE. Edited May 25, 2022 by BillStime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdmoreRyno Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Buftex said: So these idiots should probably be a little more concerned about their state, huh? How about you worry about YOUR state. No one, where I live, is concerned about someone carrying. I carry. 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: THERE YOU GO FOLKS THIS IS THE ISSUE WITH THE CULT. THEY'RE RIGHT TO GUNS > THE RIGHT TO LIVE. LOL Dude, ever heard of the Bill or Rights? Yes or no. If you don't like them or the Amendments, move to a different country. If free speech more important that someone's life? 3 minutes ago, BillStime said: THERE YOU GO FOLKS THIS IS THE ISSUE WITH THE CULT. THEY'RE RIGHT TO GUNS > THE RIGHT TO LIVE. They are right to guns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: How about you worry about YOUR state. No one, where I live, is concerned about someone carrying. I carry. LOL Dude, ever heard of the Bill or Rights? Yes or no. If you don't like them or the Amendments, move to a different country. If free speech more important that someone's life? They are right to guns? You don't care about life Bravo BETO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: And why are we letting the extremes, which are likely a pretty decent minority, dictate policy? Both extremes. The far left screams OUR RIGHTS!! just as loud. Jim, poll after poll, for decades now, show that the majority of Americans favor stricter gun laws. Both Democrats and Republicans. Yet, we don't get them, because of these extremists on the right. They are the folks that embrace, and are embraced by one party, not the other. Not denying there are extremists in both political parties (that is another issue), but in this particular case, where guns are concerned, the opposition is going to come from the right. I think your suggestion was completely reasonable, but who is going to decide when somebody warrants close watch? Local law officials? The government? 8 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: How about you worry about YOUR state. No one, where I live, is concerned about someone carrying. I carry. LOL I live in Texas, I am worried about my state, thank-you. Is the fact that you carry supposed to be of some comfort? Edited May 25, 2022 by Buftex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Buftex said: Jim, poll after poll, for decades now, show that the majority of Americans favor stricter gun laws. Both Democrats and Republicans. Yet, we don't get them, because of these extremists on the right. They are the folks that embrace, and are embraced by one party, not the other. Not denying there are extremists in both political parties (that is another issue), but in this particular case, where guns are concerned, the opposition is going to come from the right. I think your suggestion was completely reasonable, but who is going to decide when somebody warrants close watch? Local law officials? The government? And Buftex - it's time to put the blame right where it belongs: On the voters who keep voting in these NRA obsessed GUN NUTS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: You must have not watched it. 95% was informational. What happened, who it was, understanding of the gunman (criminal and mental health info), type of firearm, timeline, etc. Gee...there was no way we would have known any of that stuff, if they didn't tell us. Glad they held a press conference! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Just now, Buftex said: Jim, poll after poll, for decades now, show that the majority of Americans favor stricter gun laws. Both Democrats and Republicans. Yet, we don't get them, because of these extremists on the right. They are the folks that embrace, and are embraced by one party, not the other. Not denying there are extremists in both political parties (that is another issue), but in this particular case, where guns are concerned, the opposition is going to come from the right. I think your suggestion was completely reasonable, but who is going to decide when somebody warrants close watch? Local law officials? The government? Why are those on the right, including me, concerned? We don't trust the government. I own firearms and the reason was because we feared for our lives, and for good reason, when we lived in Oakland. Are all our weapons, after they ban assault weapons, next? Who protects us then? It sure ain't agencies like Oakland PD. That's for sure. Regarding your last point. That's the slippery slope. It's the same with homelessness. Who is going to force meds on those that need it? The ***** government?? I would love them to work on getting their families involved in this. 11 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: They are right to guns? Leave the psychotic alone. Classic case. Yelling into his keyboard. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockpile233 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) I would daresay very few of you look at an 18 year old and see an adult. Maybe in previous generations that was true, but the maturity is just not there these days. There are obviously exceptions, but I believe that to be true in my experience. But we still can’t even agree to push the purchase age back a few years. The stalemate we face is pathetic and reflects very poorly on all of us. Note I would support OBVIOUS exceptions to that rule for military and law enforcement before someone throws that “problematic” gotcha at me. Edited May 25, 2022 by Rockpile233 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdmoreRyno Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Buftex said: Gee...there was no way we would have known any of that stuff, if they didn't tell us. Glad they held a press conference! Make sure next time they (Republicans) don’t hold a press conference because you’re a liberal. It’s okay when Democrats do it, but not conservatives. 🙄 It’s amazing how some want to reduce or eliminate a constitutional right due to a few evil people. You’re probably the same who screamed “you can’t blame all Muslims for 9-11!!!” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 22 minutes ago, BillStime said: You don't care about life Bravo BETO Good for him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 Nailed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 32 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: Make sure next time they (Republicans) don’t hold a press conference because you’re a liberal. It’s okay when Democrats do it, but not conservatives. 🙄 It’s amazing how some want to reduce or eliminate a constitutional right due to a few evil people. You’re probably the same who screamed “you can’t blame all Muslims for 9-11!!!” Okay... you are probably too hysterical and emotional for this. I will pray for you and your guns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, Buftex said: Okay... you are probably too hysterical and emotional for this. I will pray for you and your guns! Scenario. Two guys break into your/my homes in the middle of the night. I have a weapon you don’t. Who would you rather be? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Scenario. Two guys break into your/my homes in the middle of the night. I have a weapon you don’t. Who would you rather be? Chances are you will be dead before you can get to your big GLOCK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Warriors' Damion Lee on Texas school shooting: 'It’s easier to get a gun than baby formula right now' https://www.foxnews.com/sports/warriors-damion-lee-texas-school-shooting-gun-baby-formula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chef Jim Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, BillStime said: Chances are you will be dead before you can get to your big GLOCK. Likely not. And if so I’m going down defending my home and my family. Not sniveling in the corner like you. Big red fonts won’t save you there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Scenario. Two guys break into your/my homes in the middle of the night. I have a weapon you don’t. Who would you rather be? The scenario you are talking about is far different than what we have been seeing in the news recently. I have nothing against you having a gun in your home to defend your home and family. Edited May 25, 2022 by Buftex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Just now, Buftex said: The scenario you are talking about is far different than what we have been seeing in the news recently. I have nothing against you having a gun in your home... Then why the “I pray for you and your guns” comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Then why the “I pray for you and your guns” comment? That was not directed at you...it was for Ardymus Ryno Edited May 25, 2022 by Buftex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Rockpile233 said: I would daresay very few of you look at an 18 year old and see an adult. Maybe in previous generations that was true, but the maturity is just not there these days. There are obviously exceptions, but I believe that to be true in my experience. But we still can’t even agree to push the purchase age back a few years. The stalemate we face is pathetic and reflects very poorly on all of us. Note I would support OBVIOUS exceptions to that rule for military and law enforcement before someone throws that “problematic” gotcha at me. Yep. Purchase age 21 totally good with that Same for voting. 100% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 hour ago, ArdmoreRyno said: MANY states have constitutional carry. Many don't have mass shootings. “Constitutional” carry ……hahaha….when gun dudes are part of a well regulated militia…THEN you can say constitutional carry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 16 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Likely not. And if so I’m going down defending my home and my family. Not sniveling in the corner like you. Big red fonts won’t save you there. I bet you sleep with your GLOCK tough guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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