JaCrispy Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 11 hours ago, Doc said: This makes no sense. But no surprise. I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but he’s a little extreme...😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but he’s a little extreme...😉 I'm passionate about our country and its future and won't apologize for my approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoCal Deek Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 6 hours ago, BillStime said: I'm passionate about our country and its future and won't apologize for my approach. There’s nothing wrong with being passionate. Can you name a few of the specific policies you’d promote in order to protect our country’s future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 5 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: There’s nothing wrong with being passionate. Can you name a few of the specific policies you’d promote in order to protect our country’s future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Back to the thread............ As Florida COVID Cases Plummet, Media Falls Silent. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/ari-j-kaufman/2021/10/20/as-florida-covid-cases-plummet-media-falls-silent-n1525537 Reminder: 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Like I said, my boss. colleague, who has been a lifelong Democrat, had to begrudgingly admit to me that the MSM is liberally slanted and intentionally inflaming the masses for profit and the furthering of the Dem agenda. He's also calling Joey, who he voted for, an "idiot" because of his numerous failures since taking office. I've yelled at him for being dumb enough to vote for him and how this was all predictable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 ALL THE NEWS THAT FITS THE NARRATIVE: Networks Censor Devastating Poll Numbers for Collapsing Biden Presidency. According to Quinnipiac, the President sits at 40 percent approval. It’s even worse for the Grinnell College poll, showing Biden at just 37 percent approval and 50 percent disapproval. Both are respected polling companies and included in the Real Clear Politics Average of polls. (The new numbers can be found here.) Again, you wouldn’t know that if you watched ABC, CBS or NBC. It’s not as though Good Morning America’s Jon Karl wasn’t aware of at least one of the polls. He cited Quinnipiac, but only the outfit’s numbers on Donald Trump: “A new poll from Quinnipiac found that 78 percent of Republicans want Donald Trump to be president again in 2024.” That amounted to just 8 seconds on the network. In contrast, Fox Business’s Maria Bartiromo highlighted the bad news on Wednesday, noting, “When asked about the most urgent issues facing America, the top answers were the economy, Covid-19, immigration and health care.” Those are subjects that mostly look bad for Biden. Mostly? https://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/scott-whitlock/2021/10/20/nets-censor-devastating-poll-numbers-collapsing-biden-presidency 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) 35 minutes ago, B-Man said: Back to the thread............ As Florida COVID Cases Plummet, Media Falls Silent. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/ari-j-kaufman/2021/10/20/as-florida-covid-cases-plummet-media-falls-silent-n1525537 Reminder: Yep, both NY and CA have 2-3 times new daily cases of Florida and not a word anywhere. Edited October 21, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 https://news.yahoo.com/remembering-those-journalists-helped-cover-180354699.html NIH reveals they did fund gain of function research in wuhan. It was centered around same spike proteins that the novel new mRNA vaccine attacks… 🤔 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 On 10/20/2021 at 10:15 AM, BillStime said: I'm passionate about our country and its future and won't apologize for my approach. Sorry Billsy, I have to call BS on this one. The only thing you seem to be passionate about is attacking anyone that disagrees with what Twitter tells you to screech about (or anyonethat posts on that other site you hate so much). If you really cared about our country you would take the time to listen to different points of view and engage in honest dialog. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: Sorry Billsy, I have to call BS on this one. The only thing you seem to be passionate about is attacking anyone that disagrees with what Twitter tells you to screech about (or anyonethat posts on that other site you hate so much). If you really cared about our country you would take the time to listen to different points of view and engage in honest dialog. BS!!!! Honest dialog with people who bend over backwards defending this: And this? And this? gtfooh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Back to the thread. Corrupt Media Censor News of Illegal Who Raped Woman on Philly Train https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/brad-wilmouth/2021/10/22/corrupt-media-censor-news-illegal-who-raped-woman-philly-train The media doesn't take sides...... CNN Accuses GOP of 'Partisan' Redistricting, Ignores Democrat Gerrymandering https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/lydia-switzer/2021/10/22/cnn-accuses-gop-partisan-redistricting-ignores-dem-gerrymandering 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, BillStime said: BS!!!! Honest dialog with people who bend over backwards defending this: And this? And this? gtfooh This is simply you proving MY point. Stop with the cowardly memes and engage in some honest conversation, Billsy. You are like a characiture of a partisan hack. Grow a pair and engage like a reasonable human instead of a twitterbot. Edited October 23, 2021 by Tenhigh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Tenhigh said: This is simply you proving MY point. Stop with the cowardly memes and engage in some honest conversation, Billsy. You are like a characiture of a partisan hack. Grow a pair and engage like a reasonable human instead of a twitterbot. This is simply you proving MY point. Stop with the cowardly memes and engage in some honest conversation, Billsy. You are like a characiture of a partisan hack. Grow a pair and engage like a reasonable human instead of a twitterbot. When you grow up let us all know - thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, BillStime said: When you grow up let us all know - thanks Really well thought out and insightful response here, way to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: Really well thought out and insightful response here, way to go! And you deserved something different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, BillStime said: And you deserved something different? I guess if I expected an actual response from a coward like you, I did not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: I guess if I expected an actual response from a coward like you, I did not. Coward? I'm not afraid of you... show where I coward.. I'll wait, precious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Just now, BillStime said: Coward? I'm not afraid of you... show where I coward.. I'll wait, precious. You won't have to wait long. Read literally any of the threads you spam in. You cowardice lies In your refusal to engage in civil discourse. I can't imagine it's any less pathetic in real life. Sleep well, cupcake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Just now, Tenhigh said: You won't have to wait long. Read literally any of the threads you spam in. You cowardice lies In your refusal to engage in civil discourse. I can't imagine it's any less pathetic in real life. Sleep well, cupcake. Say's the coward live here at 2billsdrive dot com. Coming up empty just like all the other desperate hacks - @Doc @B-Man @Big Blitz @Tenhigh@Albwan - keep trying flakes - you'll never win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 8 hours ago, BillStime said: Say's the coward live here at 2billsdrive dot com. Coming up empty just like all the other desperate hacks - @Doc @B-Man @Big Blitz @Tenhigh@Albwan - keep trying flakes - you'll never win. Leave those guys out of it for a minute. I am happy to discuss any topic you'd like. Here is the format: no memes, no tweets, no "but Trump" (unless he is the actual topic), just two adults discussing a topic reasonably. Pretend we are in person. Now, should we discuss the topic of the thread? Death penalty? Abortion? Vaccine mandates? Immigration? Dealers choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, B-Man said: Back to the thread. Corrupt Media Censor News of Illegal Who Raped Woman on Philly Train https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/brad-wilmouth/2021/10/22/corrupt-media-censor-news-illegal-who-raped-woman-philly-train The media doesn't take sides...... CNN Accuses GOP of 'Partisan' Redistricting, Ignores Democrat Gerrymandering https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/lydia-switzer/2021/10/22/cnn-accuses-gop-partisan-redistricting-ignores-dem-gerrymandering Your first story is what is known as “Anti-racism”....it protects non whites from judgement, even when they assault someone...it is what CRT looks like when it’s put into practice by the MSM...doesn’t that just seem like the perfect utopia you’ve always been waiting for? 😉 Edited October 23, 2021 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 10 hours ago, BillStime said: Say's the coward live here at 2billsdrive dot com. Coming up empty just like all the other desperate hacks - @Doc @B-Man @Big Blitz @Tenhigh@Albwan - keep trying flakes - you'll never win. Yeah, you're a real winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Doc said: Yeah, you're a real winner. Thank you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Tenhigh said: Leave those guys out of it for a minute. I am happy to discuss any topic you'd like. Here is the format: no memes, no tweets, no "but Trump" (unless he is the actual topic), just two adults discussing a topic reasonably. Pretend we are in person. Now, should we discuss the topic of the thread? Death penalty? Abortion? Vaccine mandates? Immigration? Dealers choice. There are plenty of the threads to choose from - go nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) People want to know why there’s vaccine hesitancy? How could anyone feel safe taking an injection from people who push stuff like this? The more they lie, the more they pump out disinformation, the more people reject...and that’s just the truth... Edited October 23, 2021 by JaCrispy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 5 hours ago, BillStime said: There are plenty of the threads to choose from - go nuts Nope, this is squarely on you. You can choose to start a new thread or I can do it for you, but you have to pick a topic you are comfortable posting in without the nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 53 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: Nope, this is squarely on you. You can choose to start a new thread or I can do it for you, but you have to pick a topic you are comfortable posting in without the nonsense. Sure - let’s discuss the placement of the Buffalo Bills new stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, BillStime said: Sure - let’s discuss the placement of the Buffalo Bills new stadium. If that is the only thing you can discuss reasonably, ok. I like putting it right next door to the existing stadium. I think it keeps the footprint of the team the same and allows for tailgating to continue unfettered. If you put it downtown I am worried our tailgating and fan atmosphere will suffer greatly. I also question how much use a domed stadium would actually receive. I don't feel it will pay for itself in less than a decade. Where do you want it and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 On 6/10/2021 at 7:09 AM, SCBills said: I guess we can just keep a list here of everything the media has lied, or “misinformed” the public of over the last few years. Russiagate Bountygate Officer Sicknick skull bashed in with a fire extinguisher Covington Catholic kids Hunter Biden’s laptop is “Russian misinformation” ”Debunked” Wuhan lab leak President Trump “tear gassed” protesters for a photo op The science behind hydroxychloroquine https://www.target.com/p/rigged-by-mollie-hemingway-hardcover/-/A-83226546 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 4 hours ago, Tenhigh said: If that is the only thing you can discuss reasonably, ok. I like putting it right next door to the existing stadium. I think it keeps the footprint of the team the same and allows for tailgating to continue unfettered. If you put it downtown I am worried our tailgating and fan atmosphere will suffer greatly. I also question how much use a domed stadium would actually receive. I don't feel it will pay for itself in less than a decade. Where do you want it and why? A $1,400,000,000 investment should go in the core of the region. An area like Buffalo has to leverage a once in a lifetime transformational opportunity to capitalize on what a new stadium presents: investing in the necessary infrastructure in the city to benefit the entire region. Building it in OP brings zero benefit to the region. I love tailgating in OP but after experiencing game day in cities like Seattle, Baltimore, Nashville, and Pittsburgh - there is zero comparison. Even Bob Kraft wanted to build the Patriots new stadium in Boston: not Foxboro. Seattle’s stadium is nestled up to a thriving neighborhood filled w bars, restaurants, condos, hotels and offices. The area was jumpin before and after the game. It was insane. A city like Buffalo could significantly benefit from that investment. WNY can make the case for federal funds to expand our metro to the airport, UB, Niagara etc. something that will never happen in OP. The entire region benefits w a downtown stadium. Only those w a elementary view of the NFL buys into tailgating in OP. Building the stadium in the city - closer to its largest mega market - southern Ontario - makes the team viable for a lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 38 minutes ago, BillStime said: A $1,400,000,000 investment should go in the core of the region. An area like Buffalo has to leverage a once in a lifetime transformational opportunity to capitalize on what a new stadium presents: investing in the necessary infrastructure in the city to benefit the entire region. Building it in OP brings zero benefit to the region. I love tailgating in OP but after experiencing game day in cities like Seattle, Baltimore, Nashville, and Pittsburgh - there is zero comparison. Even Bob Kraft wanted to build the Patriots new stadium in Boston: not Foxboro. Seattle’s stadium is nestled up to a thriving neighborhood filled w bars, restaurants, condos, hotels and offices. The area was jumpin before and after the game. It was insane. A city like Buffalo could significantly benefit from that investment. WNY can make the case for federal funds to expand our metro to the airport, UB, Niagara etc. something that will never happen in OP. The entire region benefits w a downtown stadium. Only those w a elementary view of the NFL buys into tailgating in OP. Building the stadium in the city - closer to its largest mega market - southern Ontario - makes the team viable for a lifetime. I have been to a lot of downtown stadiums, and I have yet to find one that compares to the OP experience, at least in my view. Personally, I like the community you see at the private lots, and I love that I am not forced to jam myself into an overcrowded bar to pregame. While some of the nightlife you see in Seattle is ok, I just don't think that model will work for Buffalo, it doesn't fit the culture of the region. Personally, I have no issue jumping into an Uber after the game and going go Bar Bill if I want to go out after. I don't know that the infrastructure money coming to the state would be best spent on the needs to accommodate a downtown stadium. I think that extra billion could do a lot more good elsewhere. Or to pay down a tiny little bit of the national debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: I have been to a lot of downtown stadiums, and I have yet to find one that compares to the OP experience, at least in my view. Personally, I like the community you see at the private lots, and I love that I am not forced to jam myself into an overcrowded bar to pregame. While some of the nightlife you see in Seattle is ok, I just don't think that model will work for Buffalo, it doesn't fit the culture of the region. Personally, I have no issue jumping into an Uber after the game and going go Bar Bill if I want to go out after. I don't know that the infrastructure money coming to the state would be best spent on the needs to accommodate a downtown stadium. I think that extra billion could do a lot more good elsewhere. Or to pay down a tiny little bit of the national debt. You build closer to your economic engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 42 minutes ago, BillStime said: You build closer to your economic engine. To what end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 9 hours ago, Tenhigh said: To what end? When you are the second smallest market in the NFL - you have to do everything you can to maximize revenue. Terry doesn’t make ***** your tailgate… but getting this stadium in the city - around amenities that make it appealing for c-suite types up in Southern Ontario to spend big bucks on suites - you do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, BillStime said: When you are the second smallest market in the NFL - you have to do everything you can to maximize revenue. Terry doesn’t make ***** your tailgate… but getting this stadium in the city - around amenities that make it appealing for c-suite types up in Southern Ontario to spend big bucks on suites - you do it. Terry doesn't have to maximize revenue: he will still be making great money through TV and digital/streaming revenue. The team is bought and paid for so he has no debt there, and likely by this time (7+ years of ownership) he has made enough in profit to recover his initial investment. For him, a downtown stadium doesn't offer added value versus the extra money he'll have to spend as c-suites can easily be sold in OP as downtown (it's less than 1/2 hour away). Now if the state says "we want it downtown" and will spend the extra money to do it, I doubt Terry will have a problem with it. But the state will have to cover the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, Doc said: Terry doesn't have to maximize revenue: he will still be making great money through TV and digital/streaming revenue. The team is bought and paid for so he has no debt there, and likely by this time (7+ years of ownership) he has made enough in profit to recover his initial investment. For him, a downtown stadium doesn't offer added value versus the extra money he'll have to spend as c-suites can easily be sold in OP as downtown (it's less than 1/2 hour away). Now if the state says "we want it downtown" and will spend the extra money to do it, I doubt Terry will have a problem with it. But the state will have to cover the difference. You don't think there is pressure on Terry to keep up with the Jones? Most valuable NFL franchises revealed: Cowboys and Patriots top 2021 ranking, Bills and Bengals at the bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 The American media is the worst source on the planet. Barring all the others, that is. Oh, except Facebook sources. They're gold. Believe everything they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, BillStime said: You don't think there is pressure on Terry to keep up with the Jones? Most valuable NFL franchises revealed: Cowboys and Patriots top 2021 ranking, Bills and Bengals at the bottom No. Buffalo doesn't have near the market to compete with the top markets. All that Terry is expected to do is get a new stadium and that will push the Bills out of the bottom-5, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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