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Just now, Coffeesforclosers said:

 

No. If the source sucks, the content doesn't matter. 


Awesome. I was waiting for @Kemp to respond but you’ll do.  See, I read the actual opinion first someplace else but didn’t use the source because it requires a subscription. Is this source better for you?

 

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/inside-the-woke-indoctrination-machine-diversity-equity-inclusion-bipoc-schools-conference-11644613908

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8 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:


Awesome. I was waiting for @Kemp to respond but you’ll do.  See, I read the actual opinion first someplace else but didn’t use the source because it requires a subscription. Is this source better for you?

 

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/inside-the-woke-indoctrination-machine-diversity-equity-inclusion-bipoc-schools-conference-11644613908

 

Not really.  I don't know a damn thing about CRT, and frankly I don't care about it at all.

 

But if I wanted to learn about it, I wouldn't go to a opinion piece written by two guys that absolutely, completely, hate CRT.  There is no chance in hell of me getting any useful information out of somebody with that strong of an agenda. 

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Just now, Coffeesforclosers said:

 

Not really.  I don't know a damn thing about CRT, and frankly I don't care about it at all.

 

But if I wanted to learn about it, I wouldn't go to a opinion piece written by two guys that absolutely, completely, hate CRT.  There is no chance in hell of me getting any useful information out of somebody with that strong of an agenda. 


So the 100 hours of CRT they watched and what they heard and saw and reported on means nothing to you? 
 

And they absolutely, completely hate CRT?   I missed that part in the piece.  Can you quote that for me?  

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‘Weapons-grade projection’ detected! Joe Lockhart explains who’s ‘trying to re-write history’ and ‘destroy democracy’

 

 

Before reading the following tweet from former Bill Clinton press secretary Joe Lockhart make sure you’re not drinking anything or risk damaging your phone or computer.

 

Ready? OK, here goes…

 

 

 

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/02/21/weapons-grade-projection-detected-joe-lockhart-explains-whos-trying-to-re-write-history-and-destroy-democracy/

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On 2/21/2022 at 9:32 AM, Coffeesforclosers said:

 

Not really.  I don't know a damn thing about CRT, and frankly I don't care about it at all.

 

But if I wanted to learn about it, I wouldn't go to a opinion piece written by two guys that absolutely, completely, hate CRT.  There is no chance in hell of me getting any useful information out of somebody with that strong of an agenda. 

Arguing about the accuracy of something while admitting you "don't know a damn thing" is all I need to know that you are a democrat

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Banning Critical Race Theory Isn’t Working

 

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Banning it won't work because they will just teach it under a different name.

 

It turns out I was right.

 

A recent report reveals that teachers in various school districts have continued infusing these ideas into their teaching. They have simply repackaged it to give the appearance that they are complying with the law.

 

Accuracy in Media (AIM), a watchdog group, conducted a series of undercover interviews with school district officials in red states to gauge the efficacy of anti-CRT laws. The results were telling.

 

Melissa Langan, principal of Van Buren Elementary School and chief academic officer of the Caldwell School District in western Idaho, told Adam Guillette of AIM that her district subverted the state’s law banning CRT by renaming parts of the curriculum.

 

Langan explained that since schools in her district can no longer use “social-emotional learning,” which has been used as a covert vehicle through which to present far-left ideas in classrooms, they simply gave it another moniker: “Behavior adaptations.”

 

“I just went to a superintendent’s meeting last week and the district was intending to switch out social-emotional learning to ‘behavior adaptations.’ Changed the label, same stuff,” she said in the video. “And I thought, it’s kind of a bummer they have to do that, but at the time I thought it was kind of brilliant. Because they don’t care about this even though it’s the same as this. But it’s the label. So, I thought it was brilliant on their part.”

 

https://redstate.com/jeffc/2022/03/25/banning-critical-race-theory-isnt-working-n540920

 

 

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University's 'Antiracism' Posters Teach Students to View Each Other by Race

by Alex Parker

 

College — it’s a place of guidance. And for those attending California State University, Fullerton, a plastered poster is lighting the way.If you’ve not been categorizing people by identity groups, the school makes clear you’ve missed the mark.On social media, student Noelle Fitchett recently revealed a sign allegedly hanging in her chemistry lab. “CHEMISTRY LAB,” she repeated in all caps.(Tweet) The poster hails an enhancement of “equitable learning,” which involves CSUF’s “particular” racial “emphasis”: Create a campus community that is committed to the achievement of equitable outcomes for all students, with particular emphasis on assessing and incentivizing the closure of opportunity gaps for students from historically racially marginalized groups.

 

https://redstate.com/alexparker/2022/03/28/universitys-antiracism-posters-teach-students-to-view-each-other-by-race-n541895

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

University's 'Antiracism' Posters Teach Students to View Each Other by Race

by Alex Parker

 

College — it’s a place of guidance. And for those attending California State University, Fullerton, a plastered poster is lighting the way.If you’ve not been categorizing people by identity groups, the school makes clear you’ve missed the mark.On social media, student Noelle Fitchett recently revealed a sign allegedly hanging in her chemistry lab. “CHEMISTRY LAB,” she repeated in all caps.(Tweet) The poster hails an enhancement of “equitable learning,” which involves CSUF’s “particular” racial “emphasis”: Create a campus community that is committed to the achievement of equitable outcomes for all students, with particular emphasis on assessing and incentivizing the closure of opportunity gaps for students from historically racially marginalized groups.

 

https://redstate.com/alexparker/2022/03/28/universitys-antiracism-posters-teach-students-to-view-each-other-by-race-n541895

 

 

 

 

The 'communities' directly surrounding the Cal State Fullerton campus is about 99% hispanic students.  Are those the marginalized students they're talking about? If so...it must be a really wide margin! 

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"Ban" is incorrect, they were discontinued for being defective mathematic books.

 

Florida bans 54 of its school math textbooks for 'trying to indoctrinate students': Half of the prohibited titles feature Critical Race Theory

 

The Florida Department of Education rejected 54 math textbooks from its curriculum on Friday, saying the books were an attempt to 'indoctrinate' students - with more than half of them banned for referencing Critical Race Theory (CRT).

 

The agency tossed out 41 percent of the 132 math textbooks submitted for next year's curriculum because they were not 'aligned with Florida standards or included prohibited topics and unsolicited strategies,' the DOE said in a statement on Friday.

 

'Reasons for rejecting textbooks included references to Critical Race Theory (CRT), inclusions of Common Core, and the unsolicited addition of Social Emotional Learning (SEL) in mathematics,' the department added, noting that all three learning practices are banned in the state.

 

'The highest number of books rejected were for grade levels K-5, where an alarming 71 percent were not appropriately aligned with Florida standards or included prohibited topics and unsolicited strategies.'

 

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis had banned CRT as a component in Florida schools, claiming it promotes hatred among students and makes individuals feel guilty for racism of the past.

'It seems that some publishers attempted to slap a coat of paint on an old house built on the foundation of Common Core, and indoctrinating concepts like race essentialism, especially, bizarrely, for elementary school students,' he said of the rejected books.

 

'I'm grateful that Commissioner [of Education Richard] Corcoran and his team at the Department have conducted such a thorough vetting of these textbooks to ensure they comply with the law.' submit the textbooks last year.

 

The DOE added, 'It is unfortunate that several publishers, especially at the elementary school grade levels, have ignored this clear communication and have attempted to slip rebranded instructional materials based on Common Core Standards into Florida's classrooms

 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10724369/Florida-bans-28-math-textbooks-school-fight-Critical-Race-Theory.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

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23 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

Huh? The Florida bill isn’t about hating anyone. It simply states that public school teachers shouldn’t be discussing sexual attraction by anyone for anyone and to anyone with kids under eight years old. That’s it. Nothing more. Sounds darn reasonable to me. If you as a parent want to discuss earlier than eight…go for it! 

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15 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Huh? The Florida bill isn’t about hating anyone. It simply states that public school teachers shouldn’t be discussing sexual attraction by anyone for anyone and to anyone with kids under eight years old. That’s it. Nothing more. Sounds darn reasonable to me. If you as a parent want to discuss earlier than eight…go for it! 

Did you watch the video? You are not responding to that 

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2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

She talked about teaching about slavery and went from there. CRT attacks are, in part, being used to stop the truth from being taught 

What important truth does CRT cover that my American history class did not cover? 

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7 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

What important truth does CRT cover that my American history class did not cover? 

It the truth that the slavery was the cause of our most terrible war. The south fought to defend and expand slavery. There is a lot of resistance to that basic fact 

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1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

It the truth that the slavery was the cause of our most terrible war. The south fought to defend and expand slavery. There is a lot of resistance to that basic fact 

Not really a thing that is denied, it truly is deeper than just slavery but it is the  proximate cause as covered by the Simpsons in the early 90s.

https://youtu.be/_Q--iGgtRn8

 

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2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

oh, it is denied 

 

so you agree racism caused our biggest national disaster? 

racism as a cause = not true

slavery as primary cause = true

other causes: economic interests, cultural values, the power of the federal government to control the states

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2 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

racism as a cause = not true

slavery as primary cause = true

other causes: economic interests, cultural values, the power of the federal government to control the states

slavery was based upon racism. You are going in circles. Why did the south not like a strong federal government? Slavery. That's basic. 

 

All your other reason, either incorrect or really inconsequential. 

 

Where do you think the south's common cultural values flowed from? Slavery maybe?  

3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Wait…you believe the reason why there’s been slavery for thousands of years of human history was because of racism? 

American slavery did not exist for thousands of years. 

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4 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

slavery was based upon racism. You are going in circles. Why did the south not like a strong federal government? Slavery. That's basic. 

 

All your other reason, either incorrect or really inconsequential. 

 

Where do you think the south's common cultural values flowed from? Slavery maybe?  

American slavery did not exist for thousands of years. 

I was unaware that Moses was a black American- mind blown! Few people in the north liked the strong federal government but why bother with facts. Lastly can you find someone outside of Twitter trolls who actually say that slavery was not the proximate cause?

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7 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

slavery was based upon racism. You are going in circles. Why did the south not like a strong federal government? Slavery. That's basic. 

 

All your other reason, either incorrect or really inconsequential. 

 

Where do you think the south's common cultural values flowed from? Slavery maybe?  

American slavery did not exist for thousands of years. 

So it’s your theory that a bunch of racist southern white dudes said ‘hey…we hate black people, let’s sail to the other side of the world and get some black people we can abuse’? 

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1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

slavery was based upon racism. You are going in circles. Why did the south not like a strong federal government? Slavery. That's basic. 

 

All your other reason, either incorrect or really inconsequential. 

 

Where do you think the south's common cultural values flowed from? Slavery maybe?  

American slavery did not exist for thousands of years. 

you're the one going in circles. You're making an empirical statement that slavery was based upon racism. 

 

Slavery was first & foremost a economic issue, as slave labor was the engine of southern agrarian economy.

 

My other reasons were neither incorrect nor inconsequential. A basic Google search will show this for you.

 

https://www.thoughtco.com/top-causes-of-the-civil-war-104532

 

Not sure why you are willingly ignorant that there were associated/ancillary causes of the Civil War. You're ignoring basic history.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

you're the one going in circles. You're making an empirical statement that slavery was based upon racism. 

 

Slavery was first & foremost a economic issue, as slave labor was the engine of southern agrarian economy.

 

My other reasons were neither incorrect nor inconsequential. A basic Google search will show this for you.

 

https://www.thoughtco.com/top-causes-of-the-civil-war-104532

 

Not sure why you are willingly ignorant that there were associated/ancillary causes of the Civil War. You're ignoring basic history.

 

 

Let me just get this right, you are claiming that slavery was not based upon a racial doctrine of white superiority? 
 

Let’s just handle that first 

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2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

American slavery did not exist for thousands of years. 

But the origins of American slavery did exist for hundreds of years in West Africa before the first Portuguese settlements appeared on the scene.  And the practice was facilitated by Arab slave traders working with African tribes and kingdoms that captured and sold other Africans into slavery.  With the initial Western Hemisphere market being South American and Caribbean sugar plantations.   And later the U.S. south.

I'm curious to know if CRT's version of the origin and practice of slavery indict both Arab and black African participants in the practice and include them in the theories oppressor/oppressed social model?  Or is their involvement overlooked or does the stories timeline start later?  

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5 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

you're the one going in circles. You're making an empirical statement that slavery was based upon racism. 

 

Slavery was first & foremost a economic issue, as slave labor was the engine of southern agrarian economy.

 

My other reasons were neither incorrect nor inconsequential. A basic Google search will show this for you.

 

https://www.thoughtco.com/top-causes-of-the-civil-war-104532

 

Not sure why you are willingly ignorant that there were associated/ancillary causes of the Civil War. You're ignoring basic history.

 

 

Oh and I laughed at your google search 

 


Ya, I’ll show you who is ignorant. 
 

This will be fun 

2 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

But the origins of American slavery did exist for hundreds of years in West Africa before the first Portuguese settlements appeared on the scene.  And the practice was facilitated by Arab slave traders working with African tribes and kingdoms that captured and sold other Africans into slavery.  With the initial Western Hemisphere market being South American and Caribbean sugar plantations.   And later the U.S. south.

I'm curious to know if CRT's version of the origin and practice of slavery indict both Arab and black African participants in the practice and include them in the theories oppressor/oppressed social model?  Or is their involvement overlooked or does the stories timeline start later?  

So, if someone was teaching about the fugitive slave act--part of a compromise to keep union together--you would simply deflect to blaming people from thousands of years before? 

 

Deflect on the issue. 

10 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

So it’s your theory that a bunch of racist southern white dudes said ‘hey…we hate black people, let’s sail to the other side of the world and get some black people we can abuse’? 

We were talking about causes of civil war 

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26 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Oh and I laughed at your google search 

 


Ya, I’ll show you who is ignorant. 
 

This will be fun 

So, if someone was teaching about the fugitive slave act--part of a compromise to keep union together--you would simply deflect to blaming people from thousands of years before? 

 

Deflect on the issue. 

We were talking about causes of civil war 

You’re laughing at me while you show your stupidity claiming that slavery was the only cause the Civil War.

 

Your irony is lost on you. I’m the one laughing now.

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Just now, BuffaninSarasota said:

You’re laughing at me while you show your stupidity claiming that slavery was the only cause the Civil War.

 

Your irony is lost on you. I’m the one laughing now.

It was the only cause that mattered. You are ignorant of the history, obviously. You obviously have no basic knowledge of the events leading up to the war, isn't that true?

 

Have you even read a biography of Lincoln? 

 

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

It was the only cause that mattered. You are ignorant of the history, obviously. You obviously have no basic knowledge of the events leading up to the war, isn't that true?

 

Have you even read a biography of Lincoln? 

 

 

 

 

In your opinion, it was the only cause that mattered. You are showing your ignorance stating this as a fact.

 

how am ignorant of history when I post basic Information from a linked  source?

 

you’re showing a weirdly obtuse stubbornness basic on opinion, not fact 

 

and yes, I’m fairly educated on that part of our history.

 

you have a great night !

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1 minute ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

In your opinion, it was the only cause that mattered. You are showing your ignorance stating this as a fact.

 

how am ignorant of history when I post basic Information from a linked  sources.

 

you’re showing a weirdly obtuse stubbornness basic on opinion, not fact 

 

and yes, I’m fairly educated on that part of our history.

 

you have a great night !

The facts support my opinion. 

 

I cannot believe you are well educated on the history of a time period littered with fights over slavery and secession and say secession wasn't primarily about slavery. It is totally obvious. 

 

Night man 

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1 hour ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

racism as a cause = not true

slavery as primary cause = true

other causes: economic interests, cultural values, the power of the federal government to control the states

@Tiberiuscan you not see I stated slavery as the primary cause of the Civil War?

 

seriously - you can’t understand this was my position ?

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