Governor Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Don’t forget the massacre in Wilmington. NC. It was the only coup in American history. https://www.zinnedproject.org/news/tdih/wilmington-massacre-2/ 1 minute ago, FireChans said: This is nonsense. Like pure nonsense. I can’t even believe there is somebody who believes this. Check out the history books being used right now in Mississippi. it isn’t in there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Governor said: Don’t forget the massacre in Wilmington. NC. It was the only coup in American history. https://www.zinnedproject.org/news/tdih/wilmington-massacre-2/ Check out the history books being used right now in Mississippi. it isn’t in there! For what grade level? What is “in there?” You can quite easily go to these states Dept of Education curriculum’s for social studies and see what they require. Florida quite clearly includes the civil war and civil rights in their requirements. Even Mississippi, because of course, you’re DEAD WRONG, demonstrates that they teach all of the Civil Rights as well as US History from Discovery to Reconstruction in the 7th grade. https://www.mdek12.org/secondaryeducation/socialstudies please for the love of god, use that smooth brain of yours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Republicans don’t want our history being taught because it exposes what they have trying to preserve all along, which is white supremacy. One only has to take a quick look at the recent voter suppression laws to understand that. 37 minutes ago, FireChans said: For what grade level? What is “in there?” You can quite easily go to these states Dept of Education curriculum’s for social studies and see what they require. Florida quite clearly includes the civil war and civil rights in their requirements. Even Mississippi, because of course, you’re DEAD WRONG, demonstrates that they teach all of the Civil Rights as well as US History from Discovery to Reconstruction in the 7th grade. https://www.mdek12.org/secondaryeducation/socialstudies please for the love of god, use that smooth brain of yours. Over the last few days, people have been posting the actual textbook material online. When you take a look at the material, you see that slavery is covered on 1 page and the narrative is that white women slave owners were oppressed. It doesn’t go into slavery at all. Do you feel that satisfies the requirements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Governor said: Republicans don’t want our history being taught because it exposes what they have trying to preserve all along, which is white supremacy. One only has to take a quick look at the recent voter suppression laws to understand that. Over the last few days, people have been posting the actual textbook material online. When you take a look at the material, you see that slavery is covered on 1 page and the narrative is that white women slave owners were oppressed. It doesn’t go into slavery at all. Do you feel that satisfies the requirements? Oh wow posts online. Is that why you can’t give me any specifics at all about anything? What textbook is it? Where is it being taught? What grade level? Do you just believe everything on Twitter? Are you one of those people? Edited June 15, 2021 by FireChans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Just now, FireChans said: Oh wow posts online. Is that why you can’t give me any specifics at all about anything? What textbook is it? Where is it being taught? What grade level? Do you just believe everything on Twitter? Are you one of those people? I already told you. It’s the 2 approved history books from Mississippi and I believe it was 6th AND 7th grade. Don’t take my word for it. Go take a look for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Nope no pretze here. We have been VERY clear regarding our concerns. It’s not being taught to make sure we don’t make the same mistakes. It’s being taught to shame a group for the actions of their “ancestors”. Do you agree with reparations? And you have failed to provide anything but propaganda to support your claim. I'm torn on reparations. That should have been addressed 160 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, Governor said: I already told you. It’s the 2 approved history books from Mississippi and I believe it was 6th AND 7th grade. Don’t take my word for it. Go take a look for yourself. LOOK WHERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BillStime said: And you have failed to provide anything but propaganda to support your claim. I'm torn on reparations. That should have been addressed 160 years ago. I feel that if you can show a direct link through your family, then you should be taken care of. A lot of northerners, and Americans in general, don’t realize that rural areas in the Carolina’s are full of black farmers. Most of their land was stolen from them. Those people should be paid out. 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: LOOK WHERE When I get a break, I will post them for you. Edited June 15, 2021 by Governor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 15, 2021 Author Share Posted June 15, 2021 1 hour ago, FireChans said: This is nonsense. Like pure nonsense. I can’t even believe there is somebody who believes this. They are not teaching that it was the most important by far cause of the Civil War. Damn, racism killed all those people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, Tiberius said: They are not teaching that it was the most important by far cause of the Civil War. Damn, racism killed all those people? My high school in New York didn’t say “racism killed everyone involved in the Civil War.” They didn’t even say that racism was the only reason the Civil War occurred. History has never boiled down to “good vs evil.” The world is more complicated than that. But you all know this. This fake narrative of “they are pretending slavery never happened” only started happening when there was push back against CRT nonsense. Incredible timing how the state of US history education didn’t become a major talking point until a week ago. Almost like there is an ulterior motive. Shocking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 15, 2021 Author Share Posted June 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, FireChans said: My high school in New York didn’t say “racism killed everyone involved in the Civil War.” They didn’t even say that racism was the only reason the Civil War occurred. History has never boiled down to “good vs evil.” The world is more complicated than that. But you all know this. This fake narrative of “they are pretending slavery never happened” only started happening when there was push back against CRT nonsense. Incredible timing how the state of US history education didn’t become a major talking point until a week ago. Almost like there is an ulterior motive. Shocking. Do you agree that racism was a major cause of the Civil War? Lincoln was called a Black Republican for a reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Just now, Tiberius said: Do you agree that racism was a major cause of the Civil War? Lincoln was called a Black Republican for a reason By today’s lens, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 FIGHTING CRITICAL RACE THEORY, ONE DOOR AT A TIME. “A vigorous fight in a small Texas city unseated advocates of a pernicious racial theory.” As a famous ex-President said, get in their face. Punch back twice as hard. https://americanmind.org/memo/fighting-critical-race-theory-one-door-at-a-time/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Governor said: Don’t forget the massacre in Wilmington. NC. It was the only coup in American history. https://www.zinnedproject.org/news/tdih/wilmington-massacre-2/ Wow- another example of Democrats’ blatant history of white supremacy, racism and attempted genocide. Shameful. The party of mob rule and supremacism… I’m not sure why the other side doesn’t do a better job of pointing this obvious historical pattern out to flip the script on the attempted race war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 51 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Wow- another example of Democrats’ blatant history of white supremacy, racism and attempted genocide. Shameful. The party of mob rule and supremacism… I’m not sure why the other side doesn’t do a better job of pointing this obvious historical pattern out to flip the script on the attempted race war. A great example of how you’ve tried to rewrite history to prop up a dead and racist ideology called Conservatism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 1 hour ago, FireChans said: History has never boiled down to “good vs evil.” The world is more complicated than that. Simple minds cannot grasp this reality. All conflicts are about money and power and then spun into some cause to manipulate the masses. If people want un sugar coated history, Slavery ownership directly impacted voting and economic power of the south vs the north And every time a new territory or state came into play, it was a tug of war over the potential power flip in majority. I wish it could be said the north opposed slavery because it was vile. In refreshing myself on all the compromises etc leading up to the succession, the realization I just stumbled upon was slavery was actually started by the European colonizers. So we can stop blaming ourselves now and blame Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Governor said: A great example of how you’ve tried to rewrite history to prop up a dead and racist ideology called Conservatism. Did you not read the article you posted gov? Bad ideology exists on both sides of the aisle, but your article was very pointed about who the offenders were. Oh I bet you didn’t read that part…. 🤔 I will pull it out for you… read… the more you know 😉 Quote Before the violence, this port city on the Cape Fear River was remarkably integrated. Three out of the ten aldermen were African Americans, and Black people worked as policemen, firemen, and magistrates. Democrats, the party of the Confederacy, vowed to end this “***** domination” in the 1898 state legislative elections. Their strategy was to enlist men who could write (white journalists and cartoonists), men who could speak (white supremacists who whipped up emotions at rallies), and men who could ride (the Ku Klux Klan-like “Red Shirts” who were basically armed ruffians on horseback). also I have my own ideology. I disagree with conservatives on most social issues, but right now the republicans are dead, as you say and the democrats have all the control and are making a total mess of things unchecked. Edited June 15, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 MORE: CRT FOR DUMMIES Christopher Rufo has led the reporting on Critical Race Theory — i.e., the indoctrination thereof in our institutions. The Spring issue of the Manhattan Institute’s City Journal, for example, carries Rufo’s essay on “The child soldiers of Portland.” Most recently, City Journal posted “The Woke-Industrial Complex,” his report on Lockheed Martin. For more, see his City Journal publications listed here. https://www.city-journal.org/critical-race-theory-portland-public-schools https://www.city-journal.org/lockheed-martins-woke-industrial-complex https://www.city-journal.org/contributor/christopher-f-rufo_1334 Yesterday Rufo posted the introductory video below on YouTube. He writes: The debate about critical race theory is coming to a peak this week, with coverage in all major media outlets—and a fierce disinformation campaign from its supporters, who claim that opponents “don’t understand CRT,” that it’s “not being taught in schools,” and that state legislation seeks to “ban the teaching of history.” I made this film to set the record straight, walking viewers through the origins of critical race theory, what it’s done to our public institutions, and how you can fight back in your community. To borrow the cliché, you may not care about CRT, but CRT cares about you. If you want to skip the Marxism history section, start at 3:30 for the CRT part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Did you not read the article you posted gov? Bad ideology exists on both sides of the aisle, but your article was very pointed about who the offenders were. Oh I bet you didn’t read that part…. 🤔 I will pull it out for you… read… the more you know 😉 also I have my own ideology. I disagree with conservatives on most social issues, but right now the republicans are dead, as you say and the democrats have all the control and are making a total mess of things unchecked. Don’t let B-man see that you’re a RINO. He will remove you from his friends list and you’ll be blocked from seeing his Chinese media sources. is that what you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Governor Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 “Did you not read the article you posted gov? Bad ideology exists on both sides of the aisle, but your article was very pointed about who the offenders were.” Csn someone please help him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Simple minds cannot grasp this reality. All conflicts are about money and power and then spun into some cause to manipulate the masses. If people want un sugar coated history, Slavery ownership directly impacted voting and economic power of the south vs the north And every time a new territory or state came into play, it was a tug of war over the potential power flip in majority. I wish it could be said the north opposed slavery because it was vile. In refreshing myself on all the compromises etc leading up to the succession, the realization I just stumbled upon was slavery was actually started by the European colonizers. So we can stop blaming ourselves now and blame Europe? Framing everything in simple terms appeals to the ignorant masses. Trump is evil. Harris is evil. Republicans are evil. Democrats are evil. Darth Vader is evil. The real world isn’t Star Wars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Governor said: “Did you not read the article you posted gov? Bad ideology exists on both sides of the aisle, but your article was very pointed about who the offenders were.” Csn someone please help him? Your quoted article here Quote Democrats, the party of the Confederacy, vowed to end this “***** domination” in the 1898 state legislative elections. Their strategy was to enlist men who could write (white journalists and cartoonists), men who could speak (white supremacists who whipped up emotions at rallies), and men who could ride (the Ku Klux Klan-like “Red Shirts” who were basically armed ruffians on horseback). please help yourself 😂 it’s like the same playbook you are using today Edited June 15, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Governor said: I haven’t read all of the material yet but I see it more as a “how did we get here” as far as economics and the power structures throughout our history. I haven’t seen anything about feelings. People are seeing that slavery is totally skipped over in kid’s history books altogether. It’s pretty blatant. You may not like CRT but there has to be a compromise because red states aren’t teaching about slavery at all. Can you provide proof for this assertion please? 3 hours ago, Governor said: I already told you. It’s the 2 approved history books from Mississippi and I believe it was 6th AND 7th grade. Don’t take my word for it. Go take a look for yourself. No. You stated it as fact. When questioned you are the one that needs to provide proof for your fact, not someone else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Governor said: People are seeing that slavery is totally skipped over in kid’s history books altogether. It’s pretty blatant. You may not like CRT but there has to be a compromise because red states aren’t teaching about slavery at all. Wow. The Lie of the Week............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 15, 2021 Author Share Posted June 15, 2021 2 hours ago, FireChans said: By today’s lens, yes. No, not by today's lens, by theirs. I guess it's only "Today's lens" that those Confederates who murdered American soldiers (because they were black) at Fort Pillow were racists? Racism is a pretty central theme in American history, unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: Do you agree that racism was a major cause of the Civil War? Lincoln was called a Black Republican for a reason And the racists and slave owners were called Democrats. How can you toe the party line for such a vile founding cause… shameful really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 15, 2021 Author Share Posted June 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: And the racists and slave owners were called Democrats. How can you toe the party line for such a vile founding cause… shameful really. Oh, so the Southern Conservative Democrats of the past are the same as the Liberal Democrats of today just because "Democrats." What is your point there? You are trying to make a point about the name, tell me more about it please. I find it interesting how people say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Oh, so the Southern Conservative Democrats of the past are the same as the Liberal Democrats of today just because "Democrats." What is your point there? You are trying to make a point about the name, tell me more about it please. I find it interesting how people say that. That one of the biggest lies ever told to the American people was that the Democrats are the party of minorities specifically Blacks because they supported federal Civil Rights legislation in the 60s (or did they?) - dirty little secret - more Republicans then Democrats did. 83% of Republicans voted for it. 65% of Democrats did. There were Southern states that did not elect GOP majorities to State Legislatures for decades after 1964---NC and ALABAMA didn't until 2010. It always takes 50 or 60 years to realize you disagreed with your party's positions especially one as big as the Civil Rights Act of 1964. You are correct that conservative democrats are virtually non existent. This does not mean Republicans in the North or South are suddenly more racist. Again, biggest lie ever told in the U.S. That the GOP is just a bunch of racists. It's unfortunate that every time that line is uttered its when limited government anti socialist Americans oppose yet another big government hand out or policy designed to make Blacks and Whites more dependent on it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 4 hours ago, BillStime said: And you have failed to provide anything but propaganda to support your claim. I'm torn on reparations. That should have been addressed 160 years ago. Propaganda? Concern regarding how the thousands of schools will use a theory to push an agenda is far from propaganda. So many people don't even know what CRT is, the history of the theory let alone how to use it. The fact that you keep referring to teaching the history of race relations in this country shows you, a ardent supporter of CRT, don't even know what you're supporting. I learned about racism many many years ago and it wasn't in the school system. It was at the dinner table. So you have no opinion at all regarding reparations? Maybe start with your pros and cons of the idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 58 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Oh, so the Southern Conservative Democrats of the past are the same as the Liberal Democrats of today just because "Democrats." What is your point there? You are trying to make a point about the name, tell me more about it please. I find it interesting how people say that. It’s shameful the stain the Democrats have burdened our entire society with and all the death and destruction you’ve brought upon the nation’s history. All of us that immigrated later are suffering all the civil discord because of your party. I think all registered you democrats should pay reparations to everyone else (republicans, Independents, libertarians, unregistered, etc) for your history of slave holding, opposition to civil rights, massacres, causing the civil war, founding kkk, establishing Jim Crow and perpetrating most of the deplorable acts throughout our young history that’s causing so much pain still today. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 We’ve officially jumped the shark! There are posters on here that believe kids aren’t aware of SLAVERY? Really? We cannot be serious. This is pure insanity now. CRT my fat arse. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 21 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: In hopes of making Billstime STFU: The major theme of CRT is: 1. White supremacy exists and maintains power through the law. So ... I’m guessing Billstime can tell us all what SPECIFIC laws he’s blathering on about? I’m still waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillStime Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Hmm...wonder if there is a connection with the anti-CRT crowd and white supremacy? U.S. lays out plan to confront white supremacist violence White House Unveils Strategy to Combat Domestic Extremism Sad we not only have to fight fascists abroad; we have to fight them in our neighborhoods. Thank you Trump voters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 On 6/14/2021 at 3:02 PM, SoCal Deek said: In hopes of making Billstime STFU: The major theme of CRT is: 1. White supremacy exists and maintains power through the law. So ... I’m guessing Billstime can tell us all what SPECIFIC laws he’s blathering on about? And, I’m still waiting. Billstime won’t respond when asked to answer a simple question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: And, I’m still waiting. Billstime won’t respond when asked to answer a simple question. He can’t because there is no answer...and he knows this... Edited June 16, 2021 by JaCrispy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 16, 2021 Author Share Posted June 16, 2021 17 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: I’m still waiting. Chef Jim use to do this same tactic. Just asking pointless questions. Hmmmm.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 8 hours ago, BillStime said: Hmm...wonder if there is a connection with the anti-CRT crowd and white supremacy? U.S. lays out plan to confront white supremacist violence White House Unveils Strategy to Combat Domestic Extremism Sad we not only have to fight fascists abroad; we have to fight them in our neighborhoods. Thank you Trump voters! What in God’s green earth does this have to do with CRT? Funny how a few hours of an unruly crowd gets this kind of attention but months of riots in places like Portland and there are crickets. Question: If white supremacy is a thing how were we, as a county, able to elect a black President twice without a peep from these people? We fight imaginary boogeyman all the while turning a blind’s eye to actually boogeymen. 🙄 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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