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I wonder if Reiss played a role with our drafting the RAS monsters. 

 

Also here is his Twitter if you want to follow him. Maybe he leaves us clues for the future. 

 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, DJB said:

 

I wonder if Reiss played a role with our drafting the RAS monsters. 

 

Also here is his Twitter if you want to follow him. Maybe he leaves us clues for the future. 

 

 

 

I would say he probably had little to no say for the draft

 

Analytic guys in football are mostly running probabilities  ... Like what does the data say about going for it on 4th and one from your own 45 in the second quarter 

 

He would literally be about 15th or 20th down the line on the draft.. they might take his data but I doubt they would even ask him if they think the guy is good enough to draft.. he's not a scout

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I would say he probably had little to no say for the draft

 

Analytic guys in football are mostly running probabilities  ... Like what does the data say about going for it on 4th and one from your own 45 in the second quarter 

 

He would literally be about 15th or 20th down the line on the draft.. they might take his data but I doubt they would even ask him if they think the guy is good enough to draft.. he's not a scout

 

 

I think it’s like you say, But, I would think if there was solid data about something that would be helpful he is encouraged to bring that information to light, as it were. 

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35 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I would say he probably had little to no say for the draft

 

Analytic guys in football are mostly running probabilities  ... Like what does the data say about going for it on 4th and one from your own 45 in the second quarter 

 

He would literally be about 15th or 20th down the line on the draft.. they might take his data but I doubt they would even ask him if they think the guy is good enough to draft.. he's not a scout

 

 

 

I'm well aware of his likely role and yes obviously he is not a scout...he does analytics. But teams are using analytics much more when it comes to the draft. 

 

Hence my statement of "I wonder if he played a role". 

 

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42 minutes ago, DJB said:

 

I wonder if Reiss played a role with our drafting the RAS monsters. 

 

Also here is his Twitter if you want to follow him. Maybe he leaves us clues for the future. 

 

 

 

Don't forget the 10 yard split. I noticed that almost everyone of our picks had a elite number

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5 minutes ago, DJB said:

 

I'm well aware of his likely role and yes obviously he is not a scout...he does analytics. But teams are using analytics much more when it comes to the draft. 

 

Hence my statement of "I wonder if he played a role". 

 

I'm sure they took his analytical reports on prospects

 

And then the football people combed it over and decided what translates and what doesn't

8 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

I think it’s like you say, But, I would think if there was solid data about something that would be helpful he is encouraged to bring that information to light, as it were. 

I'm sure he probably did give his reports to the scouts and personnel guys

 

 

And then they drew their own conclusions based on tape with some of the stuff they learned

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9 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I'm sure they took his analytical reports on prospects

 

And then the football people combed it over and decided what translates and what doesn't

I'm sure he probably did give his reports to the scouts and personnel guys

 

 

And then they drew their own conclusions based on tape with some of the stuff they learned

Not probably, it’s in his job requirements to bring any info he gathers to decision makers, why the hell else is he on the payroll? 😁  This isn’t the Nix era, Beane wants any data that may give him an edge, I’m not saying the guy is a decision maker, but he is in effect a sports data scout, and would be required to relay timely reports up the food chain regularly as it were. This isn’t like the scene in money ball with a bunch of tired azs out of touch old farts wondering why the new kid is at the table...😂

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2 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Not probably, it’s in his job requirements to bring any info he gathers to decision makers, why the hell else is he on the payroll? 😁  This isn’t the Nix era, Beane wants any data that may give him an edge, I’m not saying the guy is a decision maker, but he is in effect a sports data scout, and would be required to relay timely reports up the food chain regularly as it were. This isn’t like the scene in money ball with a bunch of tired azs out of touch old farts wondering why the new kid is at the table...😂

He actually wasn't on the payroll though during the draft process...  It says he was an intern getting hired

 

So He's getting hired now

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1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

He actually wasn't on the payroll though during the draft process... 

 

He's getting hired now

And what I said stands, think about it, the job has requirements..., they don’t add payroll costs without having a plan in place. 

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Wow - that was a MATH NERDS dream read......my brain hurts.

 

Well I used to be an honors math major.  When I went to UB I needed a waiver to get into honors math program as a freshman.  The dean told me I could either take Honor Calculus I or I could take Calculus III.  I told him based on the book we had covered more than 1/4 of Calculus III in high school so he gave me a problem.  I derived the formula and then I solved the problem.   I got what I wanted but I should have take 2 easy A's with Calculus I & II rather than AP credit. 

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1 minute ago, Don Otreply said:

And what I said stands, think about it, the job has requirements..., they don’t add payroll costs without having a plan in place. 

Again I don't think I ever said he didn't give reports to football people

 

I said he had absolutely no decision making powers.. most scouts don't even have sway

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Again I don't think I ever said he didn't give reports to football people

 

I said he had absolutely no decision making powers

You said “probably” about forwarding reports,  and I as well said he is not decision maker. Maybe we should re-read each other’s posts.,. 😁👍

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1 minute ago, Don Otreply said:

You said “probably” about forwarding reports,  and I as well said he is not decision maker. Maybe we should re-read each other’s posts.,. 😁👍

I also said I'm sure the first time without saying probably lol 

 

It's called improper English not being wrong lol

 

You really can't be probably sure of something lol you're sure of it or not 😂

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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17 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

Well I used to be an honors math major.  When I went to UB I needed a waiver to get into honors math program as a freshman.  The dean told me I could either take Honor Calculus I or I could take Calculus III.  I told him based on the book we had covered more than 1/4 of Calculus III in high school so he gave me a problem.  I derived the formula and then I solved the problem.   I got what I wanted but I should have take 2 easy A's with Calculus I & II rather than AP credit. 

NERD!

 

Just kidding, I wish I was that good with math

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19 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

I would say he probably had little to no say for the draft

 

Analytic guys in football are mostly running probabilities  ... Like what does the data say about going for it on 4th and one from your own 45 in the second quarter 

 

He would literally be about 15th or 20th down the line on the draft.. they might take his data but I doubt they would even ask him if they think the guy is good enough to draft.. he's not a scout

 

I doubt McD would give analytics types the time of day even if they were in the room during meetings to develop their draft board. 

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19 hours ago, Limeaid said:

Info on him: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evan-weiss/

(Had him on list on my LinkedIn account)

A Tiny Tim fan. 

 

Some here might like this article he is following:

models to evaluate NFL defensive coverage and ability to limit receiver space for the NFL's 2021

https://www.kaggle.com/djblechn/field-ownership-above-expected

 

Forward to Levi with Cliff notes

 

 

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23 hours ago, DJB said:

 

I wonder if Reiss played a role with our drafting the RAS monsters. 

 

Also here is his Twitter if you want to follow him. Maybe he leaves us clues for the future. 

 

 

 

Another panthers/Buffalo connection in the books. 

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I hate always bringing up baseball, but the analytic revolution already happened there. The MLB version of PFF is FanGraphs. When I played fantasy baseball, I relied heavily on a guy named Chris Mitchell and his system called KATOH when it came to the MLB draft and we were drafting prospects with zero pro experience. I did very well. KATOH had no biases. In fact, people often got mad because it left off players other people said we're going to be stars. Take, for example, Brendan Rodgers. He was a top 20 prospect that KATOH placed outside the top 100. People were furious. So far, he looks like he's going to end up as a bench player, at best.

 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-consensus-top-prospect-katoh-hates/

 

KATOH was also super high on guys who no one knew about who could end up as hall of famers (Jose Ramirez, Paul Goldschmidt, among others). Then Chris Mitchell got hired by a team and he took KATOH with him.

 

Anyway, my point is that if you can recognize significant data points in the college game that tend to lead to successful players, and build a model around that, AND mix it with traditional scouting...that has tended to be the method of finding gems in baseball and I don't see why that would not be the case in football.

18 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Another panthers/Buffalo connection in the books. 

This is not connected. The two guys already worked for their respective teams.

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