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1 hour ago, LeviF said:

 

This is hilarious on several levels.

 

First level: boomers who wrote protest songs and don't own their own songs "threatening" to pull their music from a streaming service for said service hosting speech.

 

Second level: Skynyrd was correct on the Neil Young Question.

 

Third level: said boomers haven't produced a relevant song in fifty years.

 

Fourth level: Joni Mitchell famously self-diagnosed Morgellons, an "illness" that doesn't actually exist. If Joni "trusted the science" she would have submitted herself to psychiatric care for her delusions.

 

Fifth level: this is a prime opportunity for a superstar artist who gets basically no money from hundreds of millions of streams of their songs to pull their music without getting backlash over being "greedy," AND a prime opportunity for the companies who actually own boomer song catalogs to wrangle some more money out of Spotify. 

 

Sixth level: the people with the strongest feelings on the subject have never consumed an episode of JRE and this is obvious.

 

Seventh level: the best thing for Joe Rogan would be for Spotify to breach contract. He'd pocket nearly all of his $100M and his audience would follow him to another company, perhaps a new one with Joe as its owner/founder.

Not bad thoughts, ..disagree on level 2, on level 3 good music and meaningful music lives on. He did well for being uncoordinated due to polio, so Vax is important to him.

4...could be right.

5. Not sure this has any bearing on the subject. Dt least he has the balls to speak up. 

6, likely true, but I would never waste my time listening to him, Hannity, Carleson, or any of the ton of left wing nuts. I hate preachers with a message that is clouded in their personal vitriol. I think, not follow.

7. That likely would be true and cause further divisions in the public but is all about the $$$.

 

 

He may becoming an Old Man, but he has a Heart of Gold who moved to Cali After the Gold Rush just to Rock in The Free World.😁

 

 

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On 1/29/2022 at 2:52 PM, Niagara Bill said:

I am disgusted by trump, totally untrustworthy, 

I think Biden is gutless and has no idea what he is doing. He is like a pinball bouncing where AOC and Nancy tell him to.

 

But one thing I know for sure...

I SUPPORT NEIL YOUNG, he has a Heart of Gold, a true Southern Man,  and under a Harvester Moon, I also support JONI MITCHELL... Yellow taxi or Uber 

 

F rogan, f spotify and their money.

 

GO Bills.....

 

 

 

 

So you fear those with opinions that differ from yours?  I suggest you cancel all your streaming services, all your media, never visit here again and lock yourself in your house.  It's a big scary world out there (Covid notwithstanding) and dammit for all those people that make money by expressing their OPINIONS.  

 

Good lord............

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13 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

So you fear those with opinions that differ from yours?  I suggest you cancel all your streaming services, all your media, never visit here again and lock yourself in your house.  It's a big scary world out there (Covid notwithstanding) and dammit for all those people that make money by expressing their OPINIONS.  

 

Good lord............

Fear?...Chef, not sure where that comes from. As I said, I do not like vitriol either left or right. Rogan can say what he wants but it needs to be based on fact. I have the freedom to not listen, or to suggest others not listen if he has the right to manipulate the truth.

 

Opinions I like, agree or not, Lies and preaching I dislike. 

I am Catholic, but refuse to listen to the Pope who is a hypocrite. His preaching is insignificant as a result. 

 

 

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52 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Not bad thoughts, ..disagree on level 2, on level 3 good music and meaningful music lives on. He did well for being uncoordinated due to polio, so Vax is important to him.

4...could be right.

5. Not sure this has any bearing on the subject. Dt least he has the balls to speak up. 

6, likely true, but I would never waste my time listening to him, Hannity, Carleson, or any of the ton of left wing nuts. I hate preachers with a message that is clouded in their personal vitriol. I think, not follow.

7. That likely would be true and cause further divisions in the public but is all about the $$$.

 

 

He may becoming an Old Man, but he has a Heart of Gold who moved to Cali After the Gold Rush just to Rock in The Free World.😁

 

 

 

Polio vaccine and COVID "vaccine" have nearly nothing in common.

 

I pointed out 5 because it's tangentially related and I'm surprised nobody is publicly taking advantage, not so much because it has bearing on this particular subject.

 

6: well, case in point. 

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21 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Fear?...Chef, not sure where that comes from. As I said, I do not like vitriol either left or right. Rogan can say what he wants but it needs to be based on fact. I have the freedom to not listen, or to suggest others not listen if he has the right to manipulate the truth.

 

Opinions I like, agree or not, Lies and preaching I dislike. 

I am Catholic, but refuse to listen to the Pope who is a hypocrite. His preaching is insignificant as a result. 

 

 

Niagara? In what way are you a Catholic if you refuse to listen to the Pope? Don’t look now but I believe you’re an Episcopalian. 

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5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Niagara? In what way are you a Catholic if you refuse to listen to the Pope? Don’t look now but I believe you’re an Episcopalian. 

 

PPP needs a good sedevacantist to poast pre-V2 takes.

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39 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Fear?...Chef, not sure where that comes from. As I said, I do not like vitriol either left or right. Rogan can say what he wants but it needs to be based on fact. I have the freedom to not listen, or to suggest others not listen if he has the right to manipulate the truth.

 

Opinions I like, agree or not, Lies and preaching I dislike. 

I am Catholic, but refuse to listen to the Pope who is a hypocrite. His preaching is insignificant as a result. 

 

 

 

You are afraid of others opinions.  Why else would you support people like Neil Young who demands that Spotify censor Rogan? 

 

So something not based in FACT to you is a LIE and not an OPINION?  

 

People lie all the time.  You really need to live in bubble Bill.  As I've said it's a big scary world out there.  Stay inside where it's warm and safe. 

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7 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

 

You are afraid of others opinions.  Why else would you support people like Neil Young who demands that Spotify censor Rogan? 

 

So something not based in FACT to you is a LIE and not an OPINION?  

 

People lie all the time.  You really need to live in bubble Bill.  As I've said it's a big scary world out there.  Stay inside where it's warm and safe. 

Because Rigan us spreading untruths, as he agreed to day to stop and be more selective of his guests. Looks like Neil was right

7 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Niagara? In what way are you a Catholic if you refuse to listen to the Pope? Don’t look now but I believe you’re an Episcopalian. 

Maybe you could be right. Never considered change. I figure ignore him like he ignores the truth of many priests and historic wrongs and continue my believes. I do not need him to allow me to celebrate.  

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7 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

Fear?...Chef, not sure where that comes from. As I said, I do not like vitriol either left or right. Rogan can say what he wants but it needs to be based on fact. I have the freedom to not listen, or to suggest others not listen if he has the right to manipulate the truth.

 

Opinions I like, agree or not, Lies and preaching I dislike. 

I am Catholic, but refuse to listen to the Pope who is a hypocrite. His preaching is insignificant as a result. 

 

 

 

https://societyofrock.com/39-years-ago-neil-young-responds-to-skynyrds-tragedy-with-moving-tribute-to-ronnie-van-zant/

 

Neil Young: “I think “Sweet Home Alabama” is a great song. I’ve actually performed it live a couple of times myself. My own song “Alabama” richly deserved the shot Lynyrd Skynyrd gave me with their great record. I don’t like my words when I listen to it today.”

 

 

I was a big fan of Neil Young when I first started listening to music.   When we were kids, our two older cousins would come and spend summers with us and brought NY records with them.  I always related his albums to those visits and my cousins, and when one passed away suddenly several years ago I found some comfort in revisiting Harvest and other work.
 

Anyway, seems like upon reflection, Old Neil wasn’t a big fan of his all of his own words and music, though legions of fans likely connected directly through his work.  
 

This recent dust up, honestly, who really cares?  He calls for a boycott, he’s got a call hundo-mill in the bank, and it seems highly unlikely mainstream artists will follow, or that Spotify will lose anything beyond some songs sung by a guy representing the Lipitor generation.   

 

That said, a NY station popped up out of nowhere on Sirius, I flipped it on, “HEY HEY, MY MY” was on, and I turned back time for a bit blasting the radio. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, LeviF said:

 

Polio vaccine and COVID "vaccine" have nearly nothing in common.

 

I pointed out 5 because it's tangentially related and I'm surprised nobody is publicly taking advantage, not so much because it has bearing on this particular subject.

 

6: well, case in point. 

Rogan has relented. Neil made his point.

Vaccine is a vaccine. They save lives. Choose to take it or not, but do not spit crap and lies. Debate is healthy, vitriol is not.

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3 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

 

https://societyofrock.com/39-years-ago-neil-young-responds-to-skynyrds-tragedy-with-moving-tribute-to-ronnie-van-zant/

 

Neil Young: “I think “Sweet Home Alabama” is a great song. I’ve actually performed it live a couple of times myself. My own song “Alabama” richly deserved the shot Lynyrd Skynyrd gave me with their great record. I don’t like my words when I listen to it today.”

 

 

I was a big fan of Neil Young when I first started listening to music.   When we were kids, our two older cousins would come and spend summers with us and brought NY records with them.  I always related his albums to those visits and my cousins, and when one passed away suddenly several years ago I found some comfort in revisiting Harvest and other work.
 

Anyway, seems like upon reflection, Old Neil wasn’t a big fan of his all of his own words and music, though legions of fans likely connected directly through his work.  
 

This recent dust up, honestly, who really cares?  He calls for a boycott, he’s got a call hundo-mill in the bank, and it seems highly unlikely mainstream artists will follow, or that Spotify will lose anything beyond some songs sung by a guy representing the Lipitor generation.   

 

That said, a NY station popped up out of nowhere on Sirius, I flipped it on, “HEY HEY, MY MY” was on, and I turned back time for a bit blasting the radio. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Neil always walked his own path, his father was a prominent sports writer and celeb, they didn't see eye to eye, Stills and Young tolerated each other for short periods, Neil  had no voice but could sing. 

I loved CSNY, today there is not one song writer, or group that I am aware if who could capture the protests of the majority, without hate, without the violent threats of rap. They invited thought, protest not insurrection. Like Marvin Gaye, "What's going on".

SKYNYRD, we're great, less popular in my area of the world, we didn't get much southern rock. 

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22 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Rogan has relented. Neil made his point.

Vaccine is a vaccine. They save lives. Choose to take it or not, but do not spit crap and lies. Debate is healthy, vitriol is not.


Relented how?

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53 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Because Rigan us spreading untruths, as he agreed to day to stop and be more selective of his guests. Looks like Neil was right


Give us a couple of these so called untruths.  
 

Rogan has agreed to stop what?

 

What was Neil right about?  

29 minutes ago, LeviF said:


Relented how?


Sounds like Bill is spreading some untruths himself. 😏

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6 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:


Give us a couple of these so called untruths.  
 

Rogan has agreed to stop what?

 

What was Neil right about?  


Sounds like Bill is spreading some untruths himself. 😏


It’s fairly clear that not only has Bill never heard a clip of JRE, to include the offending podcast episodes, but also hasn’t heard any of what Joe said in response. 

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5 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:


Give us a couple of these so called untruths.  
 

Rogan has agreed to stop what?

 

What was Neil right about?  


Sounds like Bill is spreading some untruths himself. 😏

im not a Rogan fan but i listened to his interview of DR Robert Malone to see what all the controversy was.  it didnt seem controversial to me at all, i actually said at the end "dont we already know all that?"

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12 minutes ago, LeviF said:


It’s fairly clear that not only has Bill never heard a clip of JRE, to include the offending podcast episodes, but also hasn’t heard any of what Joe said in response. 


Critical thinking is becoming extinct.  Reading headlines and Twit For Brains is all people “have time for” these days I guess. 

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9 hours ago, Chef Jim said:


Give us a couple of these so called untruths.  
 

Rogan has agreed to stop what?

 

What was Neil right about?  


Sounds like Bill is spreading some untruths himself. 😏

Me thinks too much hot paprika in your sauce Chef

9 hours ago, aristocrat said:


http://www.tunesdujour.com/neil-youngs-homophobia-aids-phobia/

 

Neil is apparently a homophobic piece of ***** 

Typical of a trumper. 

Attack rather than debate. 

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46 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Me thinks too much hot paprika in your sauce Chef

Typical of a trumper. 

Attack rather than debate. 

Typical leftie if you are one you can be as racist and homophobic as you want.  Neil is the homophobic ####### in this situation. Don’t ignore that 

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2 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

Me thinks too much hot paprika in your sauce Chef

 


I’m just asking for clarification on things you’ve stated here.  Your “insult” vs your answer pretty much tells me all I need to know. 

2 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

 

Attack rather than debate. 


Classic pot/kettle right there. Holy crap. 😂😂😂

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2 hours ago, Chef Jim said:


I’m just asking for clarification on things you’ve stated here.  Your “insult” vs your answer pretty much tells me all I need to know. 


Classic pot/kettle right there. Holy crap. 😂😂😂

Sorry Chef, I do not regularly follow Rogan  but as I understand he allows untruths and extremist positions on his show. He has agreed that was a mistake snc will ensure balance.  So Neil was correct. Spotify gets back their 2b$. 

Choose not to be vaxxed, but there is no public good to make up crap which is anti. 

Smile Chef, paprika is a wonderful spice...in many cultures.

 

Let's celebrate the Year if the Tiger with mutual respect...

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32 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Sorry Chef, I do not regularly follow Rogan  but as I understand he allows untruths and extremist positions on his show. He has agreed that was a mistake snc will ensure balance.  So Neil was correct. Spotify gets back their 2b$. 

Choose not to be vaxxed, but there is no public good to make up crap which is anti. 

Smile Chef, paprika is a wonderful spice...in many cultures.

 

Let's celebrate the Year if the Tiger with mutual respect...

Don't you have a semi you could flag down?

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56 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Sorry Chef, I do not regularly follow Rogan  but as I understand he allows untruths and extremist positions on his show. He has agreed that was a mistake snc will ensure balance.  So Neil was correct. Spotify gets back their 2b$. 

Choose not to be vaxxed, but there is no public good to make up crap which is anti. 

Smile Chef, paprika is a wonderful spice...in many cultures.

 

Let's celebrate the Year if the Tiger with mutual respect...

 

Point out where Rogan admitted any of his guests were a mistake.   Neil was being a child with his either Rogan goes or I go tantrum. 

 

And what's with the Covid information hysteria?  Why is Spotify using Content Advisory warnings for podcast around Covid? Why not podcasts on Financial Planning/Legal Issues/Mental and/or Physical health podcasts?  THIS is the Covid hysteria that you seem to espouse.  

 

And one last question.  What guests on Rogan's show have made up anti-vax crap?  And even if they did so what.  Why should Young demand it be removed. Let people listen and make up their own minds.  Do you not believe in critical thinking?  Ok that was two questions. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Point out where Rogan admitted any of his guests were a mistake.   Neil was being a child with his either Rogan goes or I go tantrum. 

 

And what's with the Covid information hysteria?  Why is Spotify using Content Advisory warnings for podcast around Covid? Why not podcasts on Financial Planning/Legal Issues/Mental and/or Physical health podcasts?  THIS is the Covid hysteria that you seem to espouse.  

 

And one last question.  What guests on Rogan's show have made up anti-vax crap?  And even if they did so what.  Why should Young demand it be removed. Let people listen and make up their own minds.  Do you not believe in critical thinking?  Ok that was two questions. 

 

 

Look at Rogans TV interview, he admits his error and said he would balance 

Have a good year of the flippin Tiger. 

BTW, covid is the most dangerous enemy your country and the world has faced since 1962. You my dear Chef, failed

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6 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Look at Rogans TV interview, he admits his error and said he would balance 

Have a good year of the flippin Tiger. 

BTW, covid is the most dangerous enemy your country and the world has faced since 1962. You my dear Chef, failed

 

And what TV interview would this be?  

 

He never once, as you said above, admitted that any of his guest were a mistake.  

 

Covid is the most dangerous enemy?  It is not.  :rolleyes:

 

 

 

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38 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

And what TV interview would this be?  

 

He never once, as you said above, admitted that any of his guest were a mistake.  

 

Covid is the most dangerous enemy?  It is not.  :rolleyes:

 

 

 

He did say he would balance, and Spotify got some of their 2B back. If you saw that different, sorry for your sight. 

BTW, who or what is more dangerous??. Trump? 

Who killed 850,000 people in 2 yrs suddenly.  

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5 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

He did say he would balance, and Spotify got some of their 2B back. If you saw that different, sorry for your sight. 

BTW, who or what is more dangerous??. Trump? 

Who killed 850,000 people in 2 yrs suddenly.  

 

He said he would bring more opinions on his show but never once said he made a mistake with any of his guests.  So I guess you're wrong there.  But anyway one of the biggest challenges of podcasting is getting good guests on the pod.  Joe should thank Neil for giving him the idea to get more guests on.  Brilliant!! 

 

9,500,000 people worldwide died of cancer in 2018.  Over 600,000 per year in the US alone.  

Heart disease is a very close second to cancer in the number of deaths.

 

And there are lots and lots of people disputing how many people have actually died FROM Covid vs people that have died WITH Covid.  Very few disputing the same regarding cancer and heart disease. 

 

Covid will likely be way in our rearview mirrors while people will continue to die by the hundreds of thousands each year from cancer and heart disease.  Covid is just the political and media darling du jour. 

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29 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

He said he would bring more opinions on his show but never once said he made a mistake with any of his guests.  So I guess you're wrong there.  But anyway one of the biggest challenges of podcasting is getting good guests on the pod.  Joe should thank Neil for giving him the idea to get more guests on.  Brilliant!! 

 

9,500,000 people worldwide died of cancer in 2018.  Over 600,000 per year in the US alone.  

Heart disease is a very close second to cancer in the number of deaths.

 

And there are lots and lots of people disputing how many people have actually died FROM Covid vs people that have died WITH Covid.  Very few disputing the same regarding cancer and heart disease. 

 

Covid will likely be way in our rearview mirrors while people will continue to die by the hundreds of thousands each year from cancer and heart disease.  Covid is just the political and media darling du jour. 

You are a fool. Move on. 

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11 hours ago, Chef Jim said:


A wise man once chastised someone here with these words.  “Attack rather than debate.”  

You don't debate, you build walls. Hundreds of thousands died of cancer, during WW2, but I think most people would suggest that ww2 was worse. Suggesting covid 900,000 added on deaths in US was not the biggest newest enemy is ridiculous. When one cannot acknowedge what the world is and has gone thru in 22 months,  then there can be no debate.

Move on, have a good Ground Hog day

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24 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

You don't debate, you build walls. Hundreds of thousands died of cancer, during WW2, but I think most people would suggest that ww2 was worse. Suggesting covid 900,000 added on deaths in US was not the biggest newest enemy is ridiculous. When one cannot acknowedge what the world is and has gone thru in 22 months,  then there can be no debate.

Move on, have a good Ground Hog day

Niagara…the purpose of life is not simply the avoidance of death. (Did I just blow your mind?) 😉

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1 hour ago, Niagara Bill said:

You don't debate, you build walls. Hundreds of thousands died of cancer, during WW2, but I think most people would suggest that ww2 was worse. Suggesting covid 900,000 added on deaths in US was not the biggest newest enemy is ridiculous. When one cannot acknowedge what the world is and has gone thru in 22 months,  then there can be no debate.

Move on, have a good Ground Hog day

 

I absolutely debate.  I challenged your assertion that Covid is the biggest enemy to mankind.  I used the number of deaths to determine the size of the enemy and then your reinforce my assertion using WWII as your guide.  Over 80 million people died worldwide from the war.  

 

Covid is the newest enemy but not the biggest.  It's the biggest "darling" of the media and politicians.  I'll put it this way.  My wife's best friend was just diagnosed with leukemia.   Our response is "oh no!!  This is horrible news!"  When someone tells me they have Covid the response typically is "that sucks....get well".   See the difference?  

 

I have and will acknowledge what the world has gone through the past 2 years.  In my mind cancer and heart disease are a much bigger enemy.   Enjoy your poutine but be warned.  It's not good for your heart.  

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