The January 6th Commission To Investigate The Insurrection

[SoCal Deek]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

I received this today in my email, and it truly paints a picture of an incompetent FBI, police, and all levels of our government. Does anyone actually belief this?

 

 

On January 6, 2021, domestic terrorists intent on minority rule staged an insurrection and attacked our nation’s capitol. They failed, but only barely. And if the revelations of the January 6 committee are any indication, they will -- unless held accountable -- try again.

 

They will try again because they have been emboldened by portions of the Republican Party that refuses to even acknowledge that an insurrection took place. It’s part of a broad, coordinated strategy to undermine American democracy and entrench their minority control of the government.

 

 

 

When 90% of the American people believe the country is heading in the wrong direction I’d say we already have a “minority controlled government”. Mission accomplished! 

[Tiberius]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-27/trump-supporter-jailed-5-years-capitol-riot/101272630?utm_campaign=abc_news_web&utm_content=link&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_source=abc_news_web

 

Trump rioter gets 5 years in the slammer 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

[Doc]

6. The protest was over bogus election claims and never should have been allowed to happen.

[BillStime]

 

[BillStime]

On 7/19/2022 at 4:25 PM, Doc said:

 

Hell, he couldn't even get the National Guard for the J6 protest.  Military units ready to take over? 

He couldn’t get the National Guard because he never ordered them - despite what @B-Man spews.

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

20 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

....and THIS time we've got him!

[Orlando Tim]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

He couldn’t get the National Guard because he never ordered them - despite what @B-Man spews.

 

 

Well we must have a couple of Chris Miller's, it is a common name, at the WH because this other Chris Miller a few months back said Trump only asked for the extra security to protect his own people.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/congresswoman-says-trump-administration-botched-capitol-riot-preparations-2021-05-12/

 

[BillsFanNC]

The Capitol police memo shows that the DoD under Trump made national guard request and it was turned down multiple times.

 

For the intellectually impaired like @BillStime, the pdf of the memo is linked in the story below so you can read it yourself, not that words in black and white would make an difference in his case.

 

Additionally,  the LAW requires that Pelosi or Bowser to formally request the National Guard. Trump or any President CANNOT deploy them unilaterally.

 

 

 

 

Edited July 28, 2022 by DRsGhost

[716er]

How many times has @DRsGhost posted in this thread since this pathetic declaration on February 28th?

 

 

I'm NoT PosTiNG ANY CoNTENT GoiNG fowARd iN ThE RidiCuLousLY TiTLEd oThER ThREAd.

[SoCal Deek]

Maybe you guys can take a break from screaming at each other for a minute, but it's always been my understanding that the President does not have the authority to order up the National Guard.  His authority extends only to making the Guard available for others (mayor, speaker, etc.) to utilize their services.

[BillsFanNC]

3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Maybe you guys can take a break from screaming at each other for a minute, but it's always been my understanding that the President does not have the authority to order up the National Guard.  His authority extends only to making the Guard available for others (mayor, speaker, etc.) to utilize their services.

 

That's your understanding because it's the law.

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, DRsGhost said:

The Capitol police memo shows that the DoD under Trump made national guard request and it was turned down multiple times.

 

For the intellectually impaired like @BillStime, the pdf of the memo is linked in the story below so you can read it yourself, not that words in black and white would make an difference in his case.

 

Additionally,  the LAW requires that Pelosi or Bowser to formally request the National Guard. Trump or any President CANNOT deploy them unilaterally.

 

 

 

 

 

Are we to believe CONSERVATIVE John Solomon or people testifying UNDER OATH?

 

And for more credibility, let's look at John's tweets in the past 24 hours:

 

 

 

Music to the CULTs ears:

 

 

 

 

 

 

IDIOTS

 

[716er]

 

[Orlando Tim]

12 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

Are we to believe CONSERVATIVE John Solomon or people testifying UNDER OATH?

 

And for more credibility, let's look at John's tweets in the past 24 hours:

 

 

 

Music to the CULTs ears:

 

 

 

 

 

 

IDIOTS

 

Chris Miller was under oath twice and told two very different things according to the headlines, either everything you are quoting is a lie or Chris Miller is a liar.

[BillsFanNC]

15 hours ago, DRsGhost said:

The Capitol police memo shows that the DoD under Trump made national guard request and it was turned down multiple times.

 

For the intellectually impaired like @BillStime, the pdf of the memo is linked in the story below so you can read it yourself, not that words in black and white would make an difference in his case.

 

Additionally,  the LAW requires that Pelosi or Bowser to formally request the National Guard. Trump or any President CANNOT deploy them unilaterally.

 

 

 

 

 

See? Shocker.

 

@BillStime you're an absolute rock solid ***** stain of a moron.

[BillStime]

2 hours ago, DRsGhost said:

 

See? Shocker.

 

@BillStime you're an absolute rock solid ***** stain of a moron.

lmao - listen to the freakshow - lolz

 

“Donald Trump authorized up to 20,000 National Guard troops to protect the Capitol" before Jan. 6, 2021, but was "rejected" by Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.

 

No evidence Pelosi ‘rejected’ Trump’s authorization for ‘20,000 National Guard’ before Jan. 6 attack

 

 

DR - why was Chris Flynn, Miller, Patel all installed AFTER Trump lost?

 

 

[BillStime]

DR - where is the proof that Nancy rejected Trumps National Guard offer? 
 

If it happened - you know Trump would have released that correspondence immediately.

 

Why hasn’t that happened?

 

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

6 hours ago, BillStime said:

DR - where is the proof that Nancy rejected Trumps National Guard offer? 
 

If it happened - you know Trump would have released that correspondence immediately.

 

Why hasn’t that happened?

 

 It doesn’t work that way. The correct question is why didn’t Nancy request it? 

[BillStime]

48 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

7 hours ago, BillStime said:

DR - where is the proof that Nancy rejected Trumps National Guard offer? 
 

If it happened - you know Trump would have released that correspondence immediately.

 

Why hasn’t that happened?

 

 It doesn’t work that way. The correct question is why didn’t Nancy request it? 

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Where is the proof that the offer for troops was rejected?

 

And then when the multiple requests came in - why did it take several hours for the request to be fulfilled?

 

And lastly - the capital police board reports to Nancy AND Chuck - why are you not bichin about Chuck?

[716er]

2 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

And lastly - the capital police board reports to Nancy AND Chuck - why are you not bichin about Chuck?

 

Isn't it Nancy and Mitch? 

[BillStime]

20 minutes ago, 716er said:

 

Isn't it Nancy and Mitch? 

Hmmm - when did Mitch’s term as majority leader end? January 20, 2021?

 

AP article in 2021 mentions McConnel:

 

Pelosi did not block the National Guard from the Capitol on Jan. 6

 

Regardless - the cult said Trump offered - and Nancy declined - where is the proof?

 

 

“Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy posed a similar question on Fox News saying, “Was there a decision by the Speaker not to have the National Guard at the Capitol that day?”

 

The answer is no.

 

“On January 6th, the Speaker, a target of an assassination attempt that day, was no more in charge of Capitol security than Mitch McConnell was. This is a clear attempt to whitewash what happened on January 6th and divert blame,” Drew Hammill, a spokesperson for Pelosi told The Associated Press in an email. 

 

The decision on whether to call National Guard troops to the Capitol is made by what is known as the Capitol Police Board, which is made up of the House Sergeant at Arms, the Senate Sergeant at Arms and the Architect of the Capitol. The board decided not to call the guard ahead of the insurrection but did eventually request assistance after the rioting had already begun, and the troops arrived several hours later.

The House Sergeant at Arms reports to Pelosi and the Senate Sergeant at Arms reported to McConnell, a Republican who was then Senate Majority Leader. There is no evidence that either directed the security officials not to call the guard beforehand, and Hammill said after the insurrection that Pelosi was never informed of such a request.”

 

Just another attempt by the cult to deflect AND

 

[BillsFanNC]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

8 hours ago, BillStime said:

DR - where is the proof that Nancy rejected Trumps National Guard offer? 
 

If it happened - you know Trump would have released that correspondence immediately.

 

Why hasn’t that happened?

 

 It doesn’t work that way. The correct question is why didn’t Nancy request it? 

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JFC. It's in the USCP memo in black and white. 

 

The memo in its entirety is linked in the Solomon piece above. He quotes from the USCP memo timeline as follows, with direct quote from USCP memo bolded.

 

The Capitol Police official timeline provides the most succinct summary of a series of events around Sund's request, some of which have been disputed and at times misreported in the news media.

 

"COP Sund asks Senate Sergeant at Arms (SSAA) Michael Stenger and House Sergeant at Arms (HSAA) Paul Irving for authority to have National Guard to assist with security for the January 6, 2021 event based on briefing with law enforcement partner and revised intelligence Assessment," the timeline recorded. "COP Sund's request is denied. SSAA and HSAA tell COP Sund to contact General Walker at DC National Guard to discuss the guard's ability to support a request if needed."

 

And here is Kash Patel once again reiterating how he testified under oath to the J6 committee. Why can't we read his testimony? If he lied under oath there's another Trump crony that can be locked up, right?

 

"We went to the Capitol Police and the Secret Service and law enforcement agencies and Mayor Bowser days before January 6, and asked them, 'Do you want thousands of National Guardsmen and women for January 6?'" Patel said in a detailed interview earlier this year. "They all said no. Why did we do that? The law requires them to request it before we can deploy them. And the DOD IG found we did not delay, we actually prepared in a preemptive fashion, which is what we do at DOD."

Patel told Just the News on Wednesday night that the police timeline validated the account he has given to Congress.

 

"The Capitol Police timeline shows what we have been saying for the last year — that DOD support via the National Guard was refused by the House and Senate sergeant at arms, who report to Pelosi," Patel said. "Now we have it in their own writing, days before Jan. 6. And despite the FBI warning of potential for serious disturbance, no perimeter was established, no agents put on the street, and no fence put up."

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, DRsGhost said:

 

JFC. It's in the USCP memo in black and white. 

 

The memo in its entirety is linked in the Solomon piece above. He quotes from the USCP memo timeline as follows, with direct quote from USCP memo bolded.

 

The Capitol Police official timeline provides the most succinct summary of a series of events around Sund's request, some of which have been disputed and at times misreported in the news media.

 

"COP Sund asks Senate Sergeant at Arms (SSAA) Michael Stenger and House Sergeant at Arms (HSAA) Paul Irving for authority to have National Guard to assist with security for the January 6, 2021 event based on briefing with law enforcement partner and revised intelligence Assessment," the timeline recorded. "COP Sund's request is denied. SSAA and HSAA tell COP Sund to contact General Walker at DC National Guard to discuss the guard's ability to support a request if needed."

 

And here is Kash Patel once again reiterating how he testified under oath to the J6 committee. Why can't we read his testimony? If he lied under oath there's another Trump crony that can be locked up, right?

 

"We went to the Capitol Police and the Secret Service and law enforcement agencies and Mayor Bowser days before January 6, and asked them, 'Do you want thousands of National Guardsmen and women for January 6?'" Patel said in a detailed interview earlier this year. "They all said no. Why did we do that? The law requires them to request it before we can deploy them. And the DOD IG found we did not delay, we actually prepared in a preemptive fashion, which is what we do at DOD."

Patel told Just the News on Wednesday night that the police timeline validated the account he has given to Congress.

 

"The Capitol Police timeline shows what we have been saying for the last year — that DOD support via the National Guard was refused by the House and Senate sergeant at arms, who report to Pelosi," Patel said. "Now we have it in their own writing, days before Jan. 6. And despite the FBI warning of potential for serious disturbance, no perimeter was established, no agents put on the street, and no fence put up."

Where is the written offer and rejection?

 

If the CULT had it - you would be all over it like pigs.

 

 

 

…and DR

[Gene Frenkle]

11 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Where is the written offer and rejection?

 

If the CULT had it - you would be all over it like pigs.

 

 

 

…and DR

 

Crickets

[BillStime]

 

[SoCal Deek]

Can we see Nancy’s phone records showing when she called the White House asking for help? 

[Gene Frenkle]

<grasps a straw before they're all gone>

[BillsFanNC]

3 hours ago, Gene Frenkle said:

 

Crickets

 

For the 1000th time Trump cannot unilaterally order the NG to deploy. So Miller would be correct in that testimony because Trump or any President does not have the authority to deploy the National Guard.

 

Trump can, through the DoD, ask if those who are required by law to make the request to deploy the NG (SSAA, HSAA or DC mayor) if they would like to make that request.

 

Which is exactly what happened. The entities whose formal request is required turned down the opportunity for NG deployment multiple times.

 

Crickets indeed.

[SoCal Deek]

What I find interesting is that long long before there was ever a hint of a January 6th Tribunal, I happen to hear Mr Patel on a local radio station explaining how they offered the national guard. But now that the story has shifted from ‘Trump pushed for a riot’ to ‘Trump didn’t stop the riot’ the Clown Show has to look for another way to prove the conclusion they’ve already come to. Public ‘hearing’ my arse! 

[BillsFanNC]

2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

What I find interesting is that long long before there was ever a hint of a January 6th Tribunal, I happen to hear Mr Patel on a local radio station explaining how they offered the national guard. But now that the story has shifted from ‘Trump pushed for a riot’ to ‘Trump didn’t stop the riot’ the Clown Show has to look for another way to prove the conclusion they’ve already come to. Public ‘hearing’ my arse! 

 

Patel has  requested that the J6 committee release his testimony transcript. Many times.  He has laid out what his testimony was to the committee in multiple interviews and backed up DoD adherence to the law by citing SC cases etc.

 

He says his testimony transcript is around 150 pages, with very little of it relating to J6. According to Patel much of the questioning was around other aspects of his work at DoD and with Devin Nunes exposing the Russia hoax. Why would the committee laser focused on finding out the truth and nothing but the truth about J6 go fishing off topic like that I wonder?

 

I'm sure we will find out when all the testimony transcripts are released in full by the end of September. 

 

[BillStime]

 

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

What I find interesting is that long long before there was ever a hint of a January 6th Tribunal, I happen to hear Mr Patel on a local radio station explaining how they offered the national guard. But now that the story has shifted from ‘Trump pushed for a riot’ to ‘Trump didn’t stop the riot’ the Clown Show has to look for another way to prove the conclusion they’ve already come to. Public ‘hearing’ my arse! 

 

So interesting!

 

 

 

[Orlando Tim]

6 hours ago, BillStime said:

Where is the written offer and rejection?

 

If the CULT had it - you would be all over it like pigs.

 

 

 

…and DR

Except Miller said it happened when he testified for Congress in May. I already linked to it for you so you are simply lying again 

[BillStime]

16 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

Except Miller said it happened when he testified for Congress in May. I already linked to it for you so you are simply lying again 

👆🤡🤣😂

 

LMAO - I’m lying OR Miller is lying?

 

Get out of here “teacher”

 

[Orlando Tim]

7 hours ago, BillStime said:

👆🤡🤣😂

 

LMAO - I’m lying OR Miller is lying?

 

Get out of here “teacher”

 

Intentionally quoting a liar as truth makes you a liar, so both. Or are you still unaware he said something very different a few months ago?

[BillStime]

8 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

Intentionally quoting a liar as truth makes you a liar, so both. Or are you still unaware he said something very different a few months ago?

Says the guy who voted for Trump twice - get out of here

[Albwan]

No outcry whatsoever over the assault and violence that occurred when Trump was inaugurated. 

No hearings.

Nothing.

 

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-inauguration-protests/violence-flares-in-washington-during-trump-inauguration-idUSKBN1540J7

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/inauguration-2017/washington-faces-more-anti-trump-protests-after-day-rage-n709946

 

In the violence, knots of activists in black clothes and masks threw rocks and bottles at officers wearing riot gear, who responded with volleys of tear gas and stun grenades as a helicopter hovered low overhead.

 

At one flash point, a protester hurled an object through the passenger window of a police van, which sped away in reverse as demonstrators cheered. Earlier, activists used chunks of pavement and baseball bats to shatter the windows of a Bank of America branch and a McDonald’s outlet, all symbols of American capitalism.

Multiple vehicles were set on fire, including a black limousine. A knot of people dragged garbage cans into a street a few blocks from the White House and set them ablaze, later throwing a red cap bearing Trump’s “Make America Great Again” campaign slogan into the flames.

Police said six officers were injured in scuffles with protesters. The people arrested would be held overnight before making court appearances on Saturday, Peter Newsham, interim chief of the Metropolitan Police Department, told a news conference. Newsham added that police would continue to monitor security around the night’s celebrations.

Friday’s protests played out just blocks from Pennsylvania Avenue, where New York businessman-turned-Republican politician Trump took part in the traditional parade a newly sworn in president takes from the U.S. Capitol to the White House.

 

Six police officers suffered minor injuries when protesters flung bricks, trash cans and other objects, and ignited small fires, Newsham said.

[BillStime]

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 “[T]here has been an unrelenting effort to make ‘insurrection’ a litmus test for anyone speaking about January 6th.”

 

 Plus: “If one does not use that term (and, worse yet, expresses doubts about its accuracy), you run the risk of immediate condemnation as someone excusing or supporting insurrection.

 

This framing also reduces the need to address the question of how this riot was allowed to spiral out of control….

 

The effort to mandate ‘insurrection’ as the only acceptable description prevents the country from speaking with a unified voice.

 

It clearly serves political purposes but only makes a national resolution more difficult as we approach a new presidential election.”

 

 

https://althouse.blogspot.com/2022/07/there-has-been-unrelenting-effort-to.html

 

 

And I’ll venture this prediction: If the Biden Administration’s catastrophic downward spiral continues, the January 6 “insurrectionists” will eventually come to be seen as martyrs who tried to prevent a tragedy.