NickelCity Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Mario Williams Probably a slip of mind that's symptomatic of the teams he was on. Good call. The pure fan in me wants to see Takeo Spikes laying folks out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Happy where we are at in terms of talent. No team is perfect, and I don’t spend a lot of time in life wishing for this or that thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 JJ Watt in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 From a non playoff bound roster it would be a Bosa. From a Bills drought team it would be 2014 Mario Williams. A top end pass rusher would put this team absolutely on a par with the Chiefs IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 LOL at folks saying Fred Jackson. The piece this team needs to make them truly elite is a stud edge rusher opposite Hughes. Mario Williams or Aaron Schobel are the easy choices from drought-era Bills’ rosters IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, eball said: LOL at folks saying Fred Jackson. The piece this team needs to make them truly elite is a stud edge rusher opposite Hughes. Mario Williams or Aaron Schobel are the easy choices from drought-era Bills’ rosters IMO. Ya think? I'll take some Takeo Spikes please and thank you. My second choice would probably be Nate Clements. Edited December 15, 2020 by That's No Moon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) I think a lot of people misread the post. Fred Jackson, because he's Fred Jackson and for as good as he was, it was a damn shame he was never on a good team here. Would also take Takeo Spikes or Aaron Schobel. Edited December 15, 2020 by CLTbills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 minute ago, CLTbills said: I think a lot of people misread the post. Fred Jackson, because he's Fred Jackson. Would also take Takeo Spikes or Aaron Schobel. There are a lot of guys on offense who would make this team very interesting. A little Marshawn Lynch would be good times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 hour ago, That's No Moon said: Ya think? I'll take some Takeo Spikes please and thank you. My second choice would probably be Nate Clements. Yes, come to think of it, a second shutdown corner opposite Tre would make this defense scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 minute ago, eball said: Yes, come to think of it, a second shutdown corner opposite Tre would make this defense scary. It would. I still say don't be surprised if we take a corner at the end of the 1st round in April. I just think value in those last 4 or 5 slots in round 1 might put that position in the pot and having a cost controlled guy opposite Tre for the next 5 years while he is expensive saves you paying money to more Vontae Davis and Josh Norman type sticking plaster vets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 On 12/14/2020 at 9:54 AM, chris heff said: I’d include the Bosas mom, because she created those two. Breed her with Watts dad!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: From a non playoff bound roster it would be a Bosa. From a Bills drought team it would be 2014 Mario Williams. A top end pass rusher would put this team absolutely on a par with the Chiefs IMO. Would you not take Schobel over Mario Williams? Schobel was like the energizer bunny.. very underrated player in bills history.. Overlooked because he played on terrible teams.. Another player that comes to mind for me is Lee Evans.. Elite WR but had terrible quarterbacks throughout his career.. But I still think I’d have to go with Schobel... Jason Peters would also be a great option.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMAKCruiser Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 14 hours ago, loyal2dagame said: People that can't read? Moulds was on a playoff team. Had the playoff record for receiving yards in a game for a long time. He still does... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 14 hours ago, loyal2dagame said: Aaron Schobel. If he was on the 2020 Bills in his prime, we would for sure be superbowl champs this year I still can't figure out why so many Bills fans liked him and Kelsay. I was happy when they both retired. Horribly overrated players. 🤢🤮 3 hours ago, eball said: LOL at folks saying Fred Jackson. The piece this team needs to make them truly elite is a stud edge rusher opposite Hughes. Mario Williams or Aaron Schobel are the easy choices from drought-era Bills’ rosters IMO. ha...so you laugh at people saying Fred Jackson then you say they need an elite edge rusher and you come up with Aaron Schobel? Dude was seriously over rated and nothing more than crap on any other roster. Hell why don't you add in Kelsay to that mix instead of Mario and just say they need another over rated edge guy that consistently gets out of his lane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 28 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: Would you not take Schobel over Mario Williams? Schobel was like the energizer bunny.. very underrated player in bills history.. Overlooked because he played on terrible teams.. Another player that comes to mind for me is Lee Evans.. Elite WR but had terrible quarterbacks throughout his career.. But I still think I’d have to go with Schobel... Jason Peters would also be a great option.. Nah. I think peak Mario was more dominant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 24 minutes ago, Yav said: I still can't figure out why so many Bills fans liked him and Kelsay. I was happy when they both retired. Horribly overrated players. 🤢🤮 ha...so you laugh at people saying Fred Jackson then you say they need an elite edge rusher and you come up with Aaron Schobel? Dude was seriously over rated and nothing more than crap on any other roster. Hell why don't you add in Kelsay to that mix instead of Mario and just say they need another over rated edge guy that consistently gets out of his lane. My logic is simple -- the Bills don't need any players on offense to take them over the top. The defense could use help primarily at 2nd CB or edge rusher. If you think Schobel was trash/overrated then I don't have very much respect for your football-related cognitive abilities. A player of his caliber on this defense would "eat." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 33 minutes ago, eball said: My logic is simple -- the Bills don't need any players on offense to take them over the top. The defense could use help primarily at 2nd CB or edge rusher. If you think Schobel was trash/overrated then I don't have very much respect for your football-related cognitive abilities. A player of his caliber on this defense would "eat." I think Schobel was generally a bit overrated by Bills fans but he most definitely was not trash he was a productive and consistent edge rusher and throwing him in a category with Chris Kelsay makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 15, 2020 Author Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: It would. I still say don't be surprised if we take a corner at the end of the 1st round in April. I just think value in those last 4 or 5 slots in round 1 might put that position in the pot and having a cost controlled guy opposite Tre for the next 5 years while he is expensive saves you paying money to more Vontae Davis and Josh Norman type sticking plaster vets. I agree, but if Zaven Collins is there you got to get him. Imagine him and Tremaine at LB. Can get a Paulson Adebo in 2nd or a DJ Daniel later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Just now, Solomon Grundy said: I agree, but if Zaven Collins is there you got to get him. Imagine him and Tremaine at LB. Can get a Paulson Adebo in 2nd or a DJ Daniel later It will be about what represents value I think. When you are at that back end of the first you have to be willing to take a guy you don't really need if he just happens to have slipped. If a guy you have a top 15 grade on gets to 26 or 30 or 32... wherever we end up picking you can't pass on him just because a guy you really like and have a top 30 grade on is there at a position of need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 3 hours ago, eball said: My logic is simple -- the Bills don't need any players on offense to take them over the top. The defense could use help primarily at 2nd CB or edge rusher. If you think Schobel was trash/overrated then I don't have very much respect for your football-related cognitive abilities. A player of his caliber on this defense would "eat." Well, I won't loose sleep over you have no respect for my football-related cognitive abilities, esp. sine you think an over-rated lunch pale player would "eat" on this defense. An elite edge rusher would be Mario Williams. But hey cool story bro. 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I think Schobel was generally a bit overrated by Bills fans but he most definitely was not trash he was a productive and consistent edge rusher and throwing him in a category with Chris Kelsay makes no sense. I think they were both overrated by Bills fans and why I lump them together. I never liked either of them, it was frustrating watching them disappear for games and then show up when weaker talent was playing on the opposing OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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