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Lieutenant Aldo Raine

Lack of RB Production is limiting this Team

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Our RB are fine. Id rather step into the 2000's and have a decent passing game VS a elite running game....now look..I get sometimes you have to run, it helps the offense as a whole as another "threat" to plan for ...and its nice to have..and unlike the OP I think the running game is fine...is it their bread and butter anymore???? no....am I good with that 100% YES. it just needs to be complimentary and viable...I dont care anymore if its "elite" or that you have a top 5 back in the game anymore...I dont need that. 

 

And do I think our RB are good enough to be a nice compliment to a good passing game? YES. We are just not ground and pound anymore and in that I am HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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13 hours ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said:


I agree, but I still believe we can get more TD production from the RBs.  

More TD production from the RBs would be mean less goal line scores for Josh.  That doesn't put more points on the board.   

 

If you take $20 out of your left pocket and deposit it in your right pocket you don't have $40.  

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3 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

More TD production from the RBs would be mean less goal line scores for Josh.  That doesn't put more points on the board.   

 

If you take $20 out of your left pocket and deposit it in your right pocket you don't have $40.  

 

Maybe, maybe not.

 

Wouldnt we all agree that the Bills should be putting up more points overall than they have in the past couple of seasons?


That means finishing more drives, getting more possessions, etc.

 

It's not unreasonable to think those additional TDs could/should come from the RBs considering our QB already scores a bunch himself, and the WRs are pretty much on league average.

 

If we're adding even just 1 more TD per game, 16 overall for the season, I'd think at least 8 of those could be from the RBs.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Maybe, maybe not.

 

Wouldnt we all agree that the Bills should be putting up more points overall than they have in the past couple of seasons?


That means finishing more drives, getting more possessions, etc.

 

It's not unreasonable to think those additional TDs could/should come from the RBs considering our QB scores a bunch himself, and the WRs are pretty much on league average.

 

The Bills were ok in red zone efficiency last year.  They were abysmal in red zone trips.  If I were offensive coordinator of the Bills and I wanted to make RB touchdowns the goal of my offense for special reasons, my first priority would be to upgrade one of the worst passing attacks in the NFL so my RBs would have more chances to carry the ball in scoring position.  

 

This isn't rocket science.  Look at the median distance of touchdown runs in the NFL.  Its as you might guess, under 10 yards.  So how do you score more rushing touchdowns? Get the ball inside the 10 or better yet, inside the 3 yard line. Well you can't do that when you're 26th in the league in getting the ball inside the 20 yard line on a per game basis.   

 

https://www.footballperspective.com/median-length-of-rushing-touchdown-2017/

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22 hours ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said:

It has now been 37 games since the start of the 2018 season, and we have a grand total of 8 rushing TDs by our RBs (4 in 2018, 4 in 2019, and 0 so far in 2020).  That is slightly less than 1 for every 4 games (1:4) and to me that is unsatisfactory, even if the QB averages 1 every two games (1:2).   Hopefully Moss can help with that, but the lack of RB production is really holding this team back to a certain degree in my opinion.  Additionally, TDs withstanding, do opposing defenses really fear our running game?  This kind of goes back to some poster's thoughts on constantly running RPOs instead of some more designed leads, counters, etc.  I think Dabol really needs to figure this out.  Thoughts?

If the run game sucked during the drought and it wasnt the drought because they made the playoffs I could not care less. That being said, the run game will work itself out. Points over rushing stats every day. I would love to see Moss & Motor get higher quality touches and bust some big runs but as long as this team wins im not talking negative about anything other than penalties or JA turnovers.

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23 hours ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said:

It has now been 37 games since the start of the 2018 season, and we have a grand total of 8 rushing TDs by our RBs (4 in 2018, 4 in 2019, and 0 so far in 2020).  That is slightly less than 1 for every 4 games (1:4) and to me that is unsatisfactory, even if the QB averages 1 every two games (1:2).   Hopefully Moss can help with that, but the lack of RB production is really holding this team back to a certain degree in my opinion.  Additionally, TDs withstanding, do opposing defenses really fear our running game?  This kind of goes back to some poster's thoughts on constantly running RPOs instead of some more designed leads, counters, etc.  I think Dabol really needs to figure this out.  Thoughts?

The Jets run defense was second best in the league last year as measured by DVOA. They are good at shutting down the run. https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/team-defense/2019

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3 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

The Jets run defense was second best in the league last year as measured by DVOA. They are good at shutting down the run. https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/team-defense/2019

 

Got ya; thanks.  I was looking at a more holistic view over the past two years going into this year (hence the 37 games part).  We'll see how this year goes.

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