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8 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Never said he was.  The real question is: do you know Joey isn't a saint either?

 

Do you really think Joe Biden is out to destroy America and our democratic republic? If so - provide concrete irrefutable examples.

 

At one point will you acknowledge that Trump did just about everything in his power to over turn the last election?  Did he piss on his Oath to the United States people and Constitution?

 

And because @All_Pro_Bills has no balls to answer this question - because he will be forced to admit these are not conspiracies.

 

Do you acknowledge and agree with all the steps Trump took (that we currently know about) behind the scenes to reverse the will of the people?

 

-Pressuring election officials at the state level to find just enough votes?

 

-Trump to DOJ in December: “Just say that the election was corrupt + leave the rest to me and the R. Congressmen"

 

-Pressuring the DOJ to intervene in lawsuits being pursued by Trump's campaign and supporters to get the Supreme Court to overturn the results.

 

-Inciting an insurrection 

 

Do you agree?

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29 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Do you really think Joe Biden is out to destroy America and our democratic republic? If so - provide concrete irrefutable examples.

 

At one point will you acknowledge that Trump did just about everything in his power to over turn the last election?  Did he piss on his Oath to the United States people and Constitution?

 

And because @All_Pro_Bills has no balls to answer this question - because he will be forced to admit these are not conspiracies.

 

Do you acknowledge and agree with all the steps Trump took (that we currently know about) behind the scenes to reverse the will of the people?

 

-Pressuring election officials at the state level to find just enough votes?

 

-Trump to DOJ in December: “Just say that the election was corrupt + leave the rest to me and the R. Congressmen"

 

-Pressuring the DOJ to intervene in lawsuits being pursued by Trump's campaign and supporters to get the Supreme Court to overturn the results.

 

-Inciting an insurrection 

 

Do you agree?

I'm not answering the question because your binary argument is irrelevant.  You seem to be missing my primary theme in all my posts.  My core position on every issue is that I'm against anything that gives the State more power over the individual to steal their freedoms and rights.  Plain and simple.  Anything that enhances the power of the security and surveillance state.  Or the deep state.  Or the globalist cabal.  Whatever you want to call it.  Threats to freedom.  Threats to democracy.  Threats to the Constitutional form of government.  Suffering and hardship caused by government, their agents, and allies.  Whether they be in government, business, or the media, or anywhere else. 

 

I'm not for or against all liberal causes or objectives or for or against all conservative causes.  What I'm against are those on both sides of the isle that enable the imposition of control of citizens and curtailing or inhibiting their rights as individuals.  And my primary issue with most liberals is they are complete fakes.  Traditional liberals would never support any policy that curtails our freedoms and gives power to a malevolent central government.  The current crop of neo-liberals seems to rejoice in stealing the rights of others.  These are the people I oppose.  They are the threats.   And yes, certain elements on the right seek the same purpose.  And I oppose them too.  But you keep going back to Trump.  Trump is a distraction.  Being fixated about him while the agents and security apparatus of State slips in the back door and steals everything plays right into the hands of the State.  The real threat.       

 

The State is the party that is spying on me, eavesdropping on my conversations, recording all my posts and comments, snooping into my bank account, telling me where I can go or what I can do.  All together we can stop this.

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5 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Do you really think Joe Biden is out to destroy America and our democratic republic? If so - provide concrete irrefutable examples.

 

At one point will you acknowledge that Trump did just about everything in his power to over turn the last election?  Did he piss on his Oath to the United States people and Constitution?

 

And because @All_Pro_Bills has no balls to answer this question - because he will be forced to admit these are not conspiracies.

 

Do you acknowledge and agree with all the steps Trump took (that we currently know about) behind the scenes to reverse the will of the people?

 

-Pressuring election officials at the state level to find just enough votes?

 

-Trump to DOJ in December: “Just say that the election was corrupt + leave the rest to me and the R. Congressmen"

 

-Pressuring the DOJ to intervene in lawsuits being pursued by Trump's campaign and supporters to get the Supreme Court to overturn the results.

 

-Inciting an insurrection 

 

Do you agree?

 

When you want to have an honest discussion about the Dems trying to overturn the 2016 election and the actual destruction it caused to our democratic republic, then we can talk about Trump's failed attempts to overturn the 2020 election and the overreactions that caused more damage than anything else.  But I suspect you won't.

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4 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I'm not answering the question because your binary argument is irrelevant.  You seem to be missing my primary theme in all my posts.  My core position on every issue is that I'm against anything that gives the State more power over the individual to steal their freedoms and rights.  Plain and simple.  Anything that enhances the power of the security and surveillance state.  Or the deep state.  Or the globalist cabal.  Whatever you want to call it.  Threats to freedom.  Threats to democracy.  Threats to the Constitutional form of government.  Suffering and hardship caused by government, their agents, and allies.  Whether they be in government, business, or the media, or anywhere else. 

 

I'm not for or against all liberal causes or objectives or for or against all conservative causes.  What I'm against are those on both sides of the isle that enable the imposition of control of citizens and curtailing or inhibiting their rights as individuals.  And my primary issue with most liberals is they are complete fakes.  Traditional liberals would never support any policy that curtails our freedoms and gives power to a malevolent central government.  The current crop of neo-liberals seems to rejoice in stealing the rights of others.  These are the people I oppose.  They are the threats.   And yes, certain elements on the right seek the same purpose.  And I oppose them too.  But you keep going back to Trump.  Trump is a distraction.  Being fixated about him while the agents and security apparatus of State slips in the back door and steals everything plays right into the hands of the State.  The real threat.       

 

The State is the party that is spying on me, eavesdropping on my conversations, recording all my posts and comments, snooping into my bank account, telling me where I can go or what I can do.  All together we can stop this.

 

You coward... proves exactly my point that YOU are the one that believes in fantasy conspiracies from some alternative reality... because you have NO balls to answer the question above because it KILLS your argument.

 

And of course, your lack of awareness about what you are arguing about liberals stealing rights of others (for example?) WHILE AT THE SAME TIME your CULT gives COVID more reproductive rights than women's reproductive rights and you have no issues with red states regulating human rights (pro gun), voting rights, women's reproduction, LGBT rights, and what can/cannot be taught in schools.

 

You pathetic hack.

 

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26 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

When you want to have an honest discussion about the Dems trying to overturn the 2016 election and the actual destruction it caused to our democratic republic, then we can talk about Trump's failed attempts to overturn the 2020 election and the overreactions that caused more damage than anything else.  But I suspect you won't.

 

Oh, yea? How did Dems try to overturn the 2016 election?  We will wait for your substantiated claims.

 

 

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18 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

😂 on what planet?

 

Well, of course not in @Deranged Rhino's orbit.

 

You would never question the report from the Republican-led U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee who identified close political coordination among the Trump campaign, Wikileaks, and Russian intelligence and operatives in 2016, would you?

 

This report alone demolishes Trump’s claims that he was the victim of the “greatest witch hunt in the history of our country.”

 

But of course, it is all false and Trump is a saint.

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3 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

Well, of course not in @Deranged Rhino's orbit.

 

You would never question the report from the Republican-led U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee who identified close political coordination among the Trump campaign, Wikileaks, and Russian intelligence and operatives in 2016, would you?

 

This report alone demolishes Trump’s claims that he was the victim of the “greatest witch hunt in the history of our country.”

 

But of course, it is all false and Trump is a saint.

Did Mueller indict Trump or something? Did I miss it?

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6 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

Did Mueller indict Trump or something? Did I miss it?


You do know that Mueller couldn’t indict a sitting POTUS due to DOJ rules, right DR?

 

 

 

As a matter of fact - he would have indicted Trump if he weren’t POTUS and even said Trump could be indicted after he left office.

 

 

That’s why it is important that we see the fully unredacted Mueller Report.

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1 hour ago, BillStime said:


You do know that Mueller couldn’t indict a sitting POTUS due to DOJ rules, right DR?

 

 

 

As a matter of fact - he would have indicted Trump if he weren’t POTUS and even said Trump could be indicted after he left office.

 

 

That’s why it is important that we see the fully unredacted Mueller Report.

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2 hours ago, BillStime said:


You do know that Mueller couldn’t indict a sitting POTUS due to DOJ rules, right DR?

 

 

 

As a matter of fact - he would have indicted Trump if he weren’t POTUS and even said Trump could be indicted after he left office.

 

 

That’s why it is important that we see the fully unredacted Mueller Report.

LOL, you're grasping at straws here.  

 

Is he still a sitting POTUS?  Why aren't the FBI encircling his residence right now?  

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7 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

LOL, you're grasping at straws here.  

 

Is he still a sitting POTUS?  Why aren't the FBI encircling his residence right now?  


DR, straws? Laughable - you’re grasping real hard that the POTUS is innocent because he was not indicted for crimes he did in fact do.
 

Lastly - tell us the last time a former POTUS has been indicted.

I bet you think OJ is innocent, too.

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1 minute ago, BillStime said:


DR, straws? Laughable - you’re grasping real hard that the POTUS is innocent because he was not indicted for crimes he did in fact do.
 

Lastly - tell us the last time a former POTUS has been indicted.

I bet you think OJ is innocent, too.

OJ and Trump are apples and oranges.  You're silly for thinking it's anything close.  The Trump Derangement syndrome would have not allowed the rational facilities of lefty crazies (if they have any at all) to allow Trump to get away with it if there was actually anything there.  The same syndrome got us this impotent President. 

 

Why do you feel the need to bring Deranged Rhino into all of your responses?  He and I are not the same person.  

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4 minutes ago, BillStime said:


DR, straws? Laughable - you’re grasping real hard that the POTUS is innocent because he was not indicted for crimes he did in fact do.
 

Lastly - tell us the last time a former POTUS has been indicted.

I bet you think OJ is innocent, too.

This Trump obsession of yours is making you look like a world class fool. Give it up man. You’re not convincing anyone of anything.  

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8 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

OJ and Trump are apples and oranges.  You're silly for thinking it's anything close.  The Trump Derangement syndrome would have not allowed the rational facilities of lefty crazies (if they have any at all) to allow Trump to get away with it if there was actually anything there.  The same syndrome got us this impotent President. 

 

Why do you feel the need to bring Deranged Rhino into all of your responses?  He and I are not the same person.  


Ah yes - DR’s ol standby - TDS - the infamous deflection tactic to help shield Trump from all criticism - gtfooh.

 

Trump is the most corrupt POTUS in our lifetime and you fell for it hook line and sinker.

 

Go back to your safe place - they created it especially for you.

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6 minutes ago, BillStime said:


Ah yes - DR’s ol standby - TDS - the infamous deflection tactic to help shield Trump from all criticism - gtfooh.

 

Trump is the most corrupt POTUS in our lifetime and you fell for it hook line and sinker.

 

Go back to your safe place - they created it especially for you.

T....D.....S

 

You've also deflected the issue of your ridiculous comparison.

 

Your non-sequiturs and straight up non sense is not worth my time.  Have a good day sir.

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12 hours ago, BillStime said:


You do know that Mueller couldn’t indict a sitting POTUS due to DOJ rules, right DR?

 

 

 

As a matter of fact - he would have indicted Trump if he weren’t POTUS and even said Trump could be indicted after he left office.

 

 

That’s why it is important that we see the fully unredacted Mueller Report.

But he could have produced indictments and evidence against other conspirators both domestic and international, convened a grand jury to hear those indictments and charges, arrest warrants could have been issued, arrests made, charges brought against them, juries convened, evidence heard from prosecutors and defense counsel, verdicts rendered by juries, and the guilty sentenced by the courts.  But nothing.  Why?  Because there was nothing.  It was all fictional, circumstantial, or there was simply no evidence.     

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Mueller reveals Trump’s attempts to choke off Russia probe

1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

But he could have produced indictments and evidence against other conspirators both domestic and international, convened a grand jury to hear those indictments and charges, arrest warrants could have been issued, arrests made, charges brought against them, juries convened, evidence heard from prosecutors and defense counsel, verdicts rendered by juries, and the guilty sentenced by the courts.  But nothing.  Why?  Because there was nothing.  It was all fictional, circumstantial, or there was simply no evidence.     

 

He could have... but who exactly obstructed justice besides DJT?

 

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Mueller reveals Trump’s attempts to choke off Russia probe

 

Trump was so agitated at the special counsel’s appointment on May 17, 2017, that he slumped back in his chair and declared:

 

“Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my presidency. I’m f---ed.”

 

 

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6 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

But he could have produced indictments and evidence against other conspirators both domestic and international, convened a grand jury to hear those indictments and charges, arrest warrants could have been issued, arrests made, charges brought against them, juries convened, evidence heard from prosecutors and defense counsel, verdicts rendered by juries, and the guilty sentenced by the courts.  But nothing.  Why?  Because there was nothing.  It was all fictional, circumstantial, or there was simply no evidence.     

 

They can't get around these facts.  So they cling to their fantasies.

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5 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Like the fantasy that HCQ is an effective treatment for COVID? 

Like the fantasy that anyone in the campaign colluded with the Russians in 2016.  Russia is the Left's equivalent of the search for Bigfoot.  Lots of unsupported claims, stories, and myths but no proof or physical evidence.  So far the discovery of things Russian is limited to something they've discovered in the Salad Dressing isle of the Super Market.  5 years and nothing but the dream lives on! 

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1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Like the fantasy that anyone in the campaign colluded with the Russians in 2016.  Russia is the Left's equivalent of the search for Bigfoot.  Lots of unsupported claims, stories, and myths but no proof or physical evidence.  So far the discovery of things Russian is limited to something they've discovered in the Salad Dressing isle of the Super Market.  5 years and nothing but the dream lives on! 


I’d love to know what number of people sold on Russian collusion actually reviewed the Facebook post contents. They attacked both sides of polarizing issues and seem more about sewing social conflict and unrest than promoting candidates… they spent 100k on FA books adds, with a few hundred accounts. 
 

no matter who might or might not have been involved if the dems think 100k in facbook ads and a few hundred accounts causes hilly’s loss, they completely missed just how ‘deplorable’ she herself is. 

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