JMF2006 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Must be a sign and trade deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 2 hours ago, eball said: If you’re really interested in the answer, it’s because 3rd round picks have more flexibility than the picks in any other rounds. It’s strange, but that’s why there was a delay; there is actual negotiating that goes on for the 3rd rounders while everything else is pretty much slotted. Thanks eball. I didn’t realize there was much wiggle room in the 3rd and appreciate the info. Point taken. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 17 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: @Ridgewaycynic2013has been crunching the numbers and should be able to chime in momentarily . My guess is NE will somehow benefit though! 6 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Ridgewaycynic2013's Magic 8 Ball broke! ? In light of my unacceptable prognosticatory performance, the league has awarded the New England Patriots an additional compensatory draft pick. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TigerJ Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 20 hours ago, Bangarang said: That's the entire draft class signed right? Yes. Around the league signing draft picks has been slower this year than last, and a number of teams still are not done. Yay Buffalo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 22 hours ago, JaCrispy said: Finally some good news during this national nightmare... sarcasm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jobot said: sarcasm? Why would it be sarcasm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 I have a good buddy who knows this contract stuff in and out. These are quotes from him re: Mosses' contract #Bumbles247. the second quote is regarding why it took so long. Quote His $914,000 signing bonus is guaranteed. And his salary for this year ($610,000), though not guaranteed if he's cut, will still be guaranteed for this season plus a percentage of next season's salary (most likely half, or, another $400,000) if an injury this year keeps him out next year. That's all part of the CBA and adds up to around $1.92 mil if he gets injured, or $.914 mil if we cut him. I don't think that's too bad for a later 3rd round pick. Quote But they have to argue about how much of that they get as a signing bonus and how much of it will be totally guaranteed, or guaranteed against injury but not for skill, or guaranteed with offset language that will be refunded if he's cut but then signs elsewhere, etc. Still it's not a big deal, except to say we're one of only two teams with all their picks signed. In fact half the teams don't have any of their picks signed yet. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Muppy said: I have a good buddy who knows this contract stuff in and out. These are quotes from him re: Mosses' contract #Bumbles247. the second quote is regarding why it took so long. Another Muppy sighting! Good to see you 'round these parts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Logic said: Another Muppy sighting! Good to see you 'round these parts. Thanks Logic theres a few of we expats from the bbmb still kicking around great to read YOU as always 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, Muppy said: Thanks Logic theres a few of we expats from the bbmb still kicking around great to read YOU as always Muppy - is Bumbles posting anywhere? Is he here but just not posting? I miss having him lop my head off every once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: Muppy - is Bumbles posting anywhere? Is he here but just not posting? I miss having him lop my head off every once in a while. hey Shaw he surfaces from time to time at billievers chat. Guys is the best capologist I know. Good to read YOU here too btw. I dont think Bumbles posts often but I'll pass on your regards and invite him to 2BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 16, 2020 Author Share Posted June 16, 2020 18 hours ago, Rubes said: Bills only the second team to sign all draft picks this year (the Pats**** are the other). Half of all teams haven't even signed a single draft pick yet. Cool. Like they really have a choice up in cap strapped NE** Est. Cap Space (Top 51):$1,853,479.00 18 hours ago, Niagara Bill said: Wax on wax off... Ying and Yang. One Good, one Bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 #bumbles247 https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-...ck-moss-47681/Current ContractZack Moss signed a 4 year, $4,612,316 contract with the Buffalo Bills, including a $914,417 signing bonus, $914,417 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $1,153,079. In 2020, Moss will earn a base salary of $610,000 and a signing bonus of $914,417, while carrying a cap hit of $838,604 and a dead cap value of $914,416. CONTRACT TERMS: 4 yr(s) / $4,612,316 SIGNING BONUS $914,417 AVERAGE SALARY $1,153,079 GTD AT SIGN: $914,417 TOTAL GTD: $914,417 FREE AGENT: 2024 / UFA BONUS BREAKDOWN CAP DETAILS CASH DETAILS YEAR AGE BASE SALARY SIGNING CAP HIT DEAD CAP YEARLY CASH 2021 23 $819,650 $228,604 $1,048,254 $685,812 $819,650($2,344,067) 2022 24 $1,029,300 $228,604 $1,257,904 $457,208 $1,029,300($3,373,367) 2023 25 $1,238,950 $228,604 $1,467,554 $228,604 $1,238,950($4,612,317) [/COLOR]The extra million - which is around $250,000 per year extra - I assume is because of the new CBA that raised minimum salaries accross the board for young players. Most of this year's 3rd rounders aren't signed yet, but the 87th pick, Anfernee Jennings, also got about a million more than last year's 87th pick ($3.631 mil/$4.596 mil). And looking at the others who are signed that seems to be the way it is all the way through-2019 player #90 - $3.618 mil/ 2020 player #90 - $4.484 mil2020 player #91 - #3.607 mil/ 2020 player #91 - $4.582 mil 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 22 hours ago, Negan said: Can't wait to see what Moss can do with Singletary 1-2 punch. Boom Boom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Jobot said: sarcasm? No...it’s actually refreshing to hear news that doesn’t have to do with covid or rioting or police shootings...? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: No...it’s actually refreshing to hear news that doesn’t have to do with covid or rioting or police shootings...? agreed ! Go Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 24 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: No...it’s actually refreshing to hear news that doesn’t have to do with covid or rioting or police shootings...? Seems like a stretch.. but if the inevitable signing of a 3rd round pick brings you some joy, then great I guess. 4 hours ago, Logic said: Why would it be sarcasm? Because it was inevitable, and honestly I'd consider this more of a team update than 'news'... consider the magnitude of the two things being compared I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 On 6/15/2020 at 4:38 PM, HOUSE said: This is like owning a Lamborghini on a dead end street At BOTH ends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 22 hours ago, Rubes said: Bills only the second team to sign all draft picks this year (the Pats**** are the other). Half of all teams haven't even signed a single draft pick yet. WOW. I wasnt aware of that. I never for one second was worried about Moss, but man those people who were, I bet, would feel quite silly if they knew that stat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) On 6/16/2020 at 3:35 PM, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Cool. Like they really have a choice up in cap strapped NE** Est. Cap Space (Top 51):$1,853,479.00 Ying and Yang. One Good, one Bad Kraft spent that on Hookers and Massage parlors last year BTW Shady I was joking about the sign and trade... it was a running joke about Moss being the last one to put pen to paper. Edited June 18, 2020 by JMF2006 must have still been asleep when I typed that a 330 am ;) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 On 6/15/2020 at 3:57 PM, Virgil said: Paid too much. Fire Beane! Right. Great running backs are a dime a dozen in the 6th round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 On 6/15/2020 at 8:49 PM, Rubes said: Bills only the second team to sign all draft picks this year (the Pats**** are the other). Half of all teams haven't even signed a single draft pick yet. The longer I watch McBeane, the more similarities with the Patriots appear. I don't think it is an accident that the Bills and Pats are the only two teams in this position. The Bills and Pats don't do everything the same; I really don't think McBeane are prepared to bend the rules of the league the way Belichick does. Here's what I believe they have in common: 1. Fill the roster with physically tough athletes and who are fierce competitors. 2. Teach and look for versatility. 3. Build a team that can play multiple styles. 4. Do your job. 5. Accept wherever you are and work from there. It seems the Bills were among the league leaders in figuring out how to prepare a team without OTAs and spring workouts. Beane and the Pats seems to be among the league leaders in figuring out the new CBA - everyone knows that it's better to have your drafted players signed up as soon as possible so that they can get focused on the transition to playing in the pros, but apparently most teams are hung up trying to get it done. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 On 6/15/2020 at 3:38 PM, HOUSE said: This is like owning a Lamborghini on a dead end street Now that's some funny s**t i don't care who you are ? !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 18, 2020 Author Share Posted June 18, 2020 too lazy to recheck the last 2 pages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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