2020 Election is officially Trump vs Biden

[GETTOTHE50]

anyone else think and is worried dead end Biden is going to win? Idk how anyone can vote for that socialist ticket  but it looks like most are for it 

[Dr. Who]

32 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

anyone else think and is worried dead end Biden is going to win? Idk how anyone can vote for that socialist ticket  but it looks like most are for it 

The press has shown itself to be lying, partisan, and delusional. I don't trust the polls. Maybe they are correct, but I think it is all on the level of Pravda at this point. Just vote your conscience and pray for your country.

[TBBills]

On 10/5/2020 at 4:07 PM, BillsFanNC said:

 

But you don't understand, Robert Byrd totally disavowed all of his KKK associations. Therefore this is a nothing burger. End of story.

 

 In 2020 while we're pulling down statues of Frederick Douglass and canceling anyone and everyone because "racist", you'll have those on the left tell you with a straight face that the Biden - Byrd association is not problematic at all.

It's really a moot point b.c both presidents are racist... most old people are racist.

[Buffalo_Gal]

15 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

The press has shown itself to be lying, partisan, and delusional. I don't trust the polls. Maybe they are correct, but I think it is all on the level of Pravda at this point. Just vote your conscience and pray for your country.

 
Nawwwww I always trust D+12 national polls. Who wouldn’t!? / heavy sarcasm tag

[Kemp]

The esteemed speakers from the Republican National Convention:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/06/us/patricia-mark-mccloskey-st-louis-indicted/index.html?utm_source=twcnnbrk&utm_medium=social&utm_content=2020-10-07T01%3A59%3A16&utm_term=link

[Bray Wyatt]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

 
Nawwwww I always trust D+12 national polls. Who wouldn’t!? / heavy sarcasm tag

I’m not worried about the polls, but I do feel like this full court press that has been going on will succeed. The constant negative press, coupled with these joe Biden ads all over the place and the get out and vote campaigns going on (which I’m sick of the nfl commercials btw) seems to be hard to overcome 

[GETTOTHE50]

1 hour ago, Dr. Who said:

The press has shown itself to be lying, partisan, and delusional. I don't trust the polls. Maybe they are correct, but I think it is all on the level of Pravda at this point. Just vote your conscience and pray for your country.

I read one poll (I think Rasmussen?) and it polled Dems, repubs, n non partisans equally. Biden was still the favorite by a good margin.  I hope you’re right though. The polls were dead wrong last time so let’s pray that’s the case again. 
 

***** Biden. ***** the Dems forever n ever 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[Dragoon]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/2-isis-beatles-indicted-in-us-on-charges-linked-to-beheadings-of-american-hostages
 

We should be allowed to vote on how they’re killed. 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[B-Man]

5 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

 

 

Doesn't matter...........he is not the real candidate anyway.........

 

 

[Tiberius]

15 hours ago, Kemp said:

The esteemed speakers from the Republican National Convention:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/06/us/patricia-mark-mccloskey-st-louis-indicted/index.html?utm_source=twcnnbrk&utm_medium=social&utm_content=2020-10-07T01%3A59%3A16&utm_term=link

Lock 'em up! 

[Backintheday544]

On 10/6/2020 at 11:46 PM, GETTOTHE50 said:

I read one poll (I think Rasmussen?) and it polled Dems, repubs, n non partisans equally. Biden was still the favorite by a good margin.  I hope you’re right though. The polls were dead wrong last time so let’s pray that’s the case again. 
 

***** Biden. ***** the Dems forever n ever 

 

Polls were not dead wrong last time. At times Hilary had large leads because polls covered different dates. When you get to the polls around the election, they were not far off.

 

"Polling of the 2016 presidential general election is the trickiest case to evaluate. The average error was 4.8 percentage points — slightly higher than in 2000 (4.4 points) and considerably higher than in 2004 (3.2 points), 2008 (3.6 points) or 2012 (3.6 points)."

 

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polls-are-all-right/

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[Backintheday544]

3 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

 

He already debated in person once. It just led to his poll numbers increasing.

[BillsFanNC]

Yes indeed.

 

 

[Backintheday544]

14 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

Yes indeed.

 

 

 

Yes double indeed:

 

"In two dozen interviews with voters in three traditional swing states and Texas, people discussed why they aren’t voting for him again and what it feels like to leave behind a political allegiance that was part of their personal identity"

 

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-donald-trump-religion-virus-outbreak-race-and-ethnicity-4b9c9d7a7aa46c523047a3a0e932e2a8

[BillsFanNC]

18 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:

 

Yes double indeed:

 

"In two dozen interviews with voters in three traditional swing states and Texas, people discussed why they aren’t voting for him again and what it feels like to leave behind a political allegiance that was part of their personal identity"

 

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-donald-trump-religion-virus-outbreak-race-and-ethnicity-4b9c9d7a7aa46c523047a3a0e932e2a8

 

My "yes indeed" applied to me alone. Good for the AP for scouring the country high and low to find two dozen voters who may not vote for Trump again, but are certainly giving no indication that they will crawl across broken glass to vote for Biden.

 

I'm a single issue voter this time, and from the article I linked it's this.

 

Then as details about SpyGate were revealed in early 2018, I became a full-throated proponent of Trump, incensed that the Obama administration colluded with Clinton, the Democratic National Committee, and legacy media to weaponize the federal government intelligence and law enforcement agencies against an opposition party candidate and then a sitting president. When the Russian collusion hoax didn’t work, Trump’s enemies tried to take him down with fake impeachment charges over a legitimate phone call with a new Ukrainian administration.

 

That's it. There are now mountains upon mountains of real actual evidence pointing to the above being true. Trump is still the same egotistical blowhard ahole everyone always knew he was. But you know what? The country is absolutely allowed to elect an egotistal, bowhard ahole without unelected bureaucrats attempting to overturn the election.  If these people aren't ultimately held to account we all are living in an illusion of a constitutional republic.

 

Also, we had a poll down here on PPP a few months ago asking who everyone voted for in 2016 and how they plan to vote this time. I can't find it now but I'd say we had close to a dozen voters just in this little sub-forum who didn't vote for Trump in 2016 that plan to vote for him this time.

[Backintheday544]

18 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

My "yes indeed" applied to me alone. Good for the AP for scouring the country high and low to find two dozen voters who may not vote for Trump again, but are certainly giving no indication that they will crawl across broken glass to vote for Biden.

 

I'm a single issue voter this time, and from the article I linked it's this.

 

Then as details about SpyGate were revealed in early 2018, I became a full-throated proponent of Trump, incensed that the Obama administration colluded with Clinton, the Democratic National Committee, and legacy media to weaponize the federal government intelligence and law enforcement agencies against an opposition party candidate and then a sitting president. When the Russian collusion hoax didn’t work, Trump’s enemies tried to take him down with fake impeachment charges over a legitimate phone call with a new Ukrainian administration.

 

That's it. There are now mountains upon mountains of real actual evidence pointing to the above being true. Trump is still the same egotistical blowhard ahole everyone always knew he was. But you know what? The country is absolutely allowed to elect an egotistal, bowhard ahole without unelected bureaucrats attempting to overturn the election.  If these people aren't ultimately held to account we all are living in an illusion of a constitutional republic.

 

Also, we had a poll down here on PPP a few months ago asking who everyone voted for in 2016 and how they plan to vote this time. I can't find it now but I'd say we had close to a dozen voters just in this little sub-forum who didn't vote for Trump in 2016 that plan to vote for him this time.

 

A lot of polls ask the question. Here is one from Pew yesterday:

 

 

People who didn't vote in 2916, support Biden more. 

 

6 percent of people who voted Trump are voting Biden.

 

4 percent of people who voted Clinton are voting Trump.

 

I think the biggest take away is the 3rd party support from 2016 isn't there in 2020 (even with Republican lawyers trying to get possibly popular third parties on swing state ballots) and those 3rd party votes are going heavily towards Biden.