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  On 5/7/2020 at 5:36 PM, DrDawkinstein said:

Did the replay ever once change the call on the field?

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There was one or two. One was done to ***** the Saints over. No question that reversal was a 'screw you' from the league.

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  On 5/8/2020 at 8:37 PM, LeGOATski said:

was that not just a normal TD review?

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Technically yes but they overruled the TD due to offensive PI and then basically stopped overturning things the rest of the year.

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  On 5/8/2020 at 9:08 PM, matter2003 said:

Technically yes but they overruled the TD due to offensive PI and then basically stopped overturning things the rest of the year.

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That actually helps the refs make their point: that they can overturn stuff when they feel like without the PI video review. 

 

It was so easy for the XFL to implement a simple video booth review process. The NFL just can't get out of its own way....or doesn't want to....

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The only way to make it workable would be to send video to NY and have the head of officiating in a sealed room, given no context about what the situation or ruling on the field was, and give an overarching verdict of the proper call.

 

The refs and their union HATED this rule and did everything they could to give a big middle finger to the competition committee and the fans. They want to have that control to change the course of a game with a single call, and in my heart of hearts, I believe the league gives them direction to favor some teams / players, and to keep games close so teevee ratings stay high.

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  On 5/8/2020 at 11:58 AM, Mr. WEO said:

This season, with every blatant PI not flagged, fans will explode as they watch the penalty occur on replay.  

 

 

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How will that differ from the past 30 years?

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Refs screwed fans over be refusing to change calls. The fact the NFL is taking the sides of the refs over their fanbase is ridiculous 

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  On 5/9/2020 at 2:38 AM, SinceThe70s said:

 

How will that differ from the past 30 years?

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Any chance for recourse will be gone.  None existed for the previous 30 years.  

 

It's odd that fans would cheer the loss of any chance that an egregious ref error can be reversed.

 

I would take an error correction rate of 19.5% (data as of end of November) over no chance at correction.

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  On 5/9/2020 at 10:23 AM, Kmart128 said:

Refs screwed fans over be refusing to change calls. The fact the NFL is taking the sides of the refs over their fanbase is ridiculous 

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What do you mean?  Most of the fanbase in this thread is cheering the loss of this rule.

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  On 5/9/2020 at 2:45 PM, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

What do you mean?  Most of the fanbase in this thread is cheering the loss of this rule.

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I think Kmart means All Riveron and company deliberately caused the failure of the rule by refusing to overturn obvious bad calls on the field.  This perspective, which I also hold, suggests that the referees had motivation to see the challenge rule fail because it was a threat to their power.  If that is the case, and the league has dumped the replay rule, it's because the league caved and the referees won.

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They just need to exercise common sense. They don't need PI replay. They used common sense when they nullified the turnover on the second half Kick-Off of the Wild Card game. Screwed us out of points but watching it live I knew they had to overturn it. 

 

It does open up the can or worms though of what do you do if a guy drops the ball intentionally just before crossing the goal line? Historically that's always been a turnover. Would they now call it a TD? We know what his intentions were and that he was easily going to score.

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  On 5/9/2020 at 3:47 PM, TigerJ said:

I think Kmart means All Riveron and company deliberately caused the failure of the rule by refusing to overturn obvious bad calls on the field.  This perspective, which I also hold, suggests that the referees had motivation to see the challenge rule fail because it was a threat to their power.  If that is the case, and the league has dumped the replay rule, it's because the league caved and the referees won.

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Well by most accounts fans have won too then.  So I disagree that refs won out over fans.

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  On 5/9/2020 at 10:23 AM, Kmart128 said:

Refs screwed fans over be refusing to change calls. The fact the NFL is taking the sides of the refs over their fanbase is ridiculous 

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Yeah, cause nothing has saved us fans from being 'screwed' like replay over the last 30 years!!

 

What is obviously missing now is offensive holding replay.   Uncalled offensive holding can change an entire game.  We need to review every possible hold to make sure no one is getting away with it and screwing us fans!!

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