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Rd 6, Pick 188 (from Browns): K Tyler Bass, Georgia Southern

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8 hours ago, eball said:


What the hell is “flash speed?”

@BringBackFergy uses flash speed in his WR review work.  It's only one small piece of his total package, but hopefully he can explain flash speed for us.

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35 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

@BringBackFergy uses flash speed in his WR review work.  It's only one small piece of his total package, but hopefully he can explain flash speed for us.

I grade my WR’s on three criteria: Arm swap length, Cranking voltage and Flash speed. The “flash speed” trait measures the player’s ability to stop and go through heavy traffic while maintaining good eye control and brain acuity. Hope this helps. 

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2 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

I grade my WR’s on three criteria: Arm swap length, Cranking voltage and Flash speed. The “flash speed” trait measures the player’s ability to stop and go through heavy traffic while maintaining good eye control and brain acuity. Hope this helps. 

 

Whats your success rate in scouting WRs using these criteria?  How does Davis rate?

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2 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

I grade my WR’s on three criteria: Arm swap length, Cranking voltage and Flash speed. The “flash speed” trait measures the player’s ability to stop and go through heavy traffic while maintaining good eye control and brain acuity. Hope this helps. 

 

 

Yes, I think ignoring trivial crap like route running, separation and the ability to actually catch the ball (especially when contested) let's you focus in on what's REALLY important. 

 

But I'm trying to figure out "Arm swap length". Is it the distance it takes the WR unscrew the arms from the shoulder, then swap them, putting the longer arm in position to make the catch?

 

:rolleyes:

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1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

Whats your success rate in scouting WRs using these criteria?  How does Davis rate?

@Cripple Creek has generally relied on my scouting when putting together his Bigger Board. Davis rated as a "light blue" on my Board.  Rather than grades from 1-10 I choose color coded ranking systems that go from "white" (vanilla, bleh) to "fire engine red" (cherry, hot). It also keeps people from stealing my homework because they have no idea what "mauve" or "turquoise" represents.  Suffice it to say, Davis rates light blue and my rating will be proven come November.

1 hour ago, The Dean said:

 

 

Yes, I think ignoring trivial crap like route running, separation and the ability to actually catch the ball (especially when contested) let's you focus in on what's REALLY important. 

 

But I'm trying to figure out "Arm swap length". Is it the distance it takes the WR unscrew the arms from the shoulder, then swap them, putting the longer arm in position to make the catch?

 

:rolleyes:

Arm swap length is an algorithm I created which incorporates some analytics and genetic tendencies.  I look at a player's background and family history, measure the length from the base of the thumb to the top of the tricep (subtract out the circumference of the funny bone/elbow) and multiply by pie. That gives me a rating which is then multiplied by family genetic history adopting those same measurables to predict how likely he is to wrestle the ball from defenders (i.e. swapping possession of the ball from CB to WR on underthrown or inaccurate passes). My final score is an indication of whether the WR is more likely to gain possession from the CB or safety.

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50 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

@Cripple Creek has generally relied on my scouting when putting together his Bigger Board. Davis rated as a "light blue" on my Board.  Rather than grades from 1-10 I choose color coded ranking systems that go from "white" (vanilla, bleh) to "fire engine red" (cherry, hot). It also keeps people from stealing my homework because they have no idea what "mauve" or "turquoise" represents.  Suffice it to say, Davis rates light blue and my rating will be proven come November.

 

What is light blue and why November?

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This thread has become hilarious, and I LOVE IT!!! Nice job Bringbackfergy... you made my must follow list... you’re the only one on the list though. Teef was on that list, but he’s too mainstream now 

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1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

What is light blue and why November?

the Presidential election, duh

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3 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

@Cripple Creek has generally relied on my scouting when putting together his Bigger Board. Davis rated as a "light blue" on my Board.  Rather than grades from 1-10 I choose color coded ranking systems that go from "white" (vanilla, bleh) to "fire engine red" (cherry, hot). It also keeps people from stealing my homework because they have no idea what "mauve" or "turquoise" represents.  Suffice it to say, Davis rates light blue and my rating will be proven come November.

Arm swap length is an algorithm I created which incorporates some analytics and genetic tendencies.  I look at a player's background and family history, measure the length from the base of the thumb to the top of the tricep (subtract out the circumference of the funny bone/elbow) and multiply by pie. That gives me a rating which is then multiplied by family genetic history adopting those same measurables to predict how likely he is to wrestle the ball from defenders (i.e. swapping possession of the ball from CB to WR on underthrown or inaccurate passes). My final score is an indication of whether the WR is more likely to gain possession from the CB or safety.


What kind of pie? Your choice or do you let the player choose?

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45 minutes ago, JimS said:


What kind of pie? Your choice or do you let the player choose?

Maybe crows pie... it has feet, and 3 feet equal a yard, so 3.14 feet equal a yard and scratch... and crows feet scratch for extra yards that equal the difference in winning and losing close games. 

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4 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

@Cripple Creek has generally relied on my scouting when putting together his Bigger Board. Davis rated as a "light blue" on my Board.  Rather than grades from 1-10 I choose color coded ranking systems that go from "white" (vanilla, bleh) to "fire engine red" (cherry, hot). It also keeps people from stealing my homework because they have no idea what "mauve" or "turquoise" represents.  Suffice it to say, Davis rates light blue and my rating will be proven come November.

Arm swap length is an algorithm I created which incorporates some analytics and genetic tendencies.  I look at a player's background and family history, measure the length from the base of the thumb to the top of the tricep (subtract out the circumference of the funny bone/elbow) and multiply by pie. That gives me a rating which is then multiplied by family genetic history adopting those same measurables to predict how likely he is to wrestle the ball from defenders (i.e. swapping possession of the ball from CB to WR on underthrown or inaccurate passes). My final score is an indication of whether the WR is more likely to gain possession from the CB or safety.

 

 

OK, NOW I get it. 

 

I like Pecan Pie

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Man, with this kid’s range, if he can produce consistent accuracy, it’s a minimum 3 points for the Bills every possession. 

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37 minutes ago, Bufflow4 said:


Man, with this kid’s range, if he can produce consistent accuracy, it’s a minimum 3 points for the Bills every possession. 


We may never punt!

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He's got a future as a KO specialist, at least.  But Vedvik can boot them deep into the endzone so unless the FG kicking competition is close, I can't see them keeping him on the roster just to KO.  Hopefully he's at least as good as Hauschka.

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4 minutes ago, Doc said:

He's got a future as a KO specialist, at least.  But Vedvik can boot them deep into the endzone so unless the FG kicking competition is close, I can't see them keeping him on the roster just to KO.  Hopefully he's at least as good as Hauschka.

 

Hauschka is about to turn 35....they need to find the next kicker, which many teams have shown is not always so easy to find.  Being in a rush to cut this kid would be foolish.

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4 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

Hauschka is about to turn 35....they need to find the next kicker, which many teams have shown is not always so easy to find.  Being in a rush to cut this kid would be foolish.

 

I never said anything about being in a rush to cut him.

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2 hours ago, Albanybillsbacker said:

Lots of folks have a big leg, few have accuracy. 


Pretty much sums up my day on the golf course.

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4 hours ago, Doc said:

He's got a future as a KO specialist, at least.  But Vedvik can boot them deep into the endzone so unless the FG kicking competition is close, I can't see them keeping him on the roster just to KO.  Hopefully he's at least as good as Hauschka.


I have a hard time seeing how Hauschka can be better than Bass. Obviously Hauschka has the experience edge but it’s not like he is very accurate and has no distance left at all. I just think it would be a big mistake to stick with Hauschka, it’s a huge disadvantage when we can’t even attempt field goals over 50 yards. 

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54 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:


Pretty much sums up my day on the golf course.

 

50 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Well stop using foot to kick ball into cup (cheating) and use club.

 

I rarely use my foot on the green. (Unless you look away, of course, but that’s on YOU. :)) My foot mostly comes in handy getting TO the green. There are WAY TOO MANY trees out there to leave the foot wedge in the bag all day. 

 

When people want to bet on the golf course I immediately tell them I plan to cheat all day long. I’m not there to make myself miserable. My BALL is not in the wrong place, but that TREE should not be right there! Not my fault! You still want money on this? That gets me out of it. I’m not one to gamble much, and like 99.99% of the population, I’m not a great golfer. 

 

I can’t wait until we win a game by kicking a FG right after a touchback! Haha

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