Wonderlic scores

[Kirby Jackson]

I really only worry about the Wonderlic if it’s extreme. I don’t really care if a guy gets an 18 or a 22. It’s a red flag though if he has a 6. 

[Bss]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

You really can’t “prepare” for the wonderlic 

Vince Young took it and got a 6, then prepared for it and got a 16 the next day. It wasn't enough to make him look smart but it did take him from very dumb to kinda dumb 

[Doc Brown]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

You really can’t “prepare” for the wonderlic 

Since it's a timed test you at least have to be cognizant of spending too much time on one question.  That's pry the biggest thing.

[YoloinOhio]

3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Since it's a timed test you at least have to be cognizant of spending too much time on one question.  That's pry the biggest thing.

Yeah I just don’t think you can study for it. 20 is considered average and 10 is considered literate. Guys who are able to significantly increase their score the 2nd time must have not even paid attention to it the first time 

[SmokinES3]

18 minutes ago, Bss said:

Lamar didn't have an agent so the person preparing him for the wonderlic was probably his mom. Don't know Tuas excuse hes surrounded in talent and has guys like trent dilfer working with him.

A potential first round pick having his mom as his agent is an excuse? To me it's a correlation.

[MJS]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Yeah I just don’t think you can study for it. 20 is considered average and 10 is considered literate. Guys who are able to significantly increase their score the 2nd time must have not even paid attention to it the first time 

That's just not true. You can easily prepare for it just like any other test.

[SmokinES3]

30 minutes ago, MJS said:

It's pretty basic information like math and language and problem solving, but the tough part is answering all the questions in the allotted time.

 

I just don't understand how some guys can score so low. It's literally their job to do well on it. They have months to prepare for it. Anyone preparing for the combine should be practicing for it. To me, the score isn't as concerning as the complete lack of preparation, because if you take the test only 2-3 times beforehand and study just a bit, your score should get better and better. But apparently some guys aren't interested at all in preparing for it. I don't think the scores say much about mental ability as much as they say about attitude and willingness to prepare and take things seriously.

 

As a college graduate taking it in my mid twenties I scored a 34 without knowing anything about it. If I studied a bit and took it a few times I bet I could get up to 40 pretty easily.

Idk about a 40 personally, but I had a similar experience. High 20's to low 30's was not as issue.

It makes you question more than the intelligence of someone in the low-mid teens. More motivation/preparation as you said.

Edited April 18, 2020 by SmokinES3

[Bangarang]

25 minutes ago, 32ABBA said:

 

 

Maybe...but then, it's not your money or job on the line if you select one of the dummies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

It’s probably one of the last things I would care about when it comes to evaluating a player. 
 

 

[Augie]

11 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I really only worry about the Wonderlic if it’s extreme. I don’t really care if a guy gets an 18 or a 22. It’s a red flag though if he has a 6. 

 

I think position matters. A CB or edge bothers me less than a C or QB, for example. Still, watch the tape. That tells you most of what you need to know. 

 

I heard Fitz on Mike & Mike years ago (before ESPN decided to wreck the last good thing they had) and they asked something like “if you have 3 pairs of pants, 5 shirts and 6 ties, how many outfits do you have?” Fitz took less than a second to answer. (You multiply the numbers.) I couldn’t have done it that fast with a calculator! 

 

Fitzy has played life well, to date. I wonder how his earnings stack up to Joe Montana? 

[MJS]

21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

You really can’t “prepare” for the wonderlic 

Here's a source that teaches how to prepare for it:

https://www.recruiter.com/i/wonderlic-101-what-it-is-and-how-to-beat-it/

 

Here's a quote:

 

"Familiarizing yourself with the exam and giving yourself as many opportunities to practice are essential to improving your score. Most people come away disappointed with their results because they did not prepare for the time constraint. Practicing will allow you to get familiar with the content of the exam and also get into a good rhythm so you can maximize your score."

5 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

It’s probably one of the last things I would care about when it comes to evaluating a player. 

Everything is a piece to the puzzle. You get as much information as possible on every prospect. And if a player has a bad score on the wonderlic you do more digging to try to identify why. But yeah, ultimately their game tape matters the most.

[K-9]

3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Qb is really the only position I think the wonderlic could/should be a factor. That and maybe Center. Essentially it’s measuring how quickly one processes information, as I understand it. 

I’d include all OL positions, MLB, and safety in that group as well.

[MJS]

51 minutes ago, K-9 said:

I’d include all OL positions, MLB, and safety in that group as well.

I think it applies to any position. If you have two prospects who are essentially equal in all other facets, but one guy has a higher wonderlic AND you percieve that prospect to be a little smarter, then you rate that guy above the other.

 

It's a tiny piece of the much larger puzzle and is relevant for practically every position.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

6 hours ago, Bss said:

Jim Kelly got a 15. Terry Bradshaw and McNair did too. 

Combined?

 

EDIT:  I am sure I am insulting McNair with that comment.  ?

Edited April 18, 2020 by Ridgewaycynic2013

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

6 hours ago, Augie said:

Fitzy has played life well, to date. I wonder how his earnings stack up to Joe Montana? 

Yes, but consider the intangibles...the number of different team jerseys hanging in the closet.  ?

[K-9]

4 hours ago, MJS said:

I think it applies to any position. If you have two prospects who are essentially equal in all other facets, but one guy has a higher wonderlic AND you percieve that prospect to be a little smarter, then you rate that guy above the other.

 

It's a tiny piece of the much larger puzzle and is relevant for practically every position.

That’s certainly true. I was basically referring to the relative amount of playbook material generally devoted to the various positions. 

[CSBill]

Average Score of the Alabama play makers (Judy 9, Tua 19, Ruggs 20) = 16

 

Tough admissions standards down there in the deep south.

Edited April 18, 2020 by CSBill

[YoloinOhio]

11 minutes ago, CSBill said:

Average Score of the Alabama play makers (Judy 9, Tua 19, Ruggs 20) = 16

 

Though admissions standards down there in the deep south.

That made me think about the poster who spent considerable time trying to convince everyone that Bama was the Harvard of the south a couple years ago. Anyone else remember that? Skydiver I think?

[CSBill]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

That made me think about the poster who spent considerable time trying to convince everyone that Bama was the Harvard of the south a couple years ago. Anyone else remember that? Skydiver I think?

 

Yeah, I do. I work with two bama grads, both have doctorates. But neither played on the football team. ?

Edited April 18, 2020 by CSBill

[Blokestradamus]

8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

That made me think about the poster who spent considerable time trying to convince everyone that Bama was the Harvard of the south a couple years ago. Anyone else remember that? Skydiver I think?

 

I will accept that if he called it Hillbilly Harvard.

[TigerJ]

Wonderlic isn't the be all end all, even for quarterbacks, but you would be fooling yourself if you thought it was irrelevant.