SI Article: forget about sports this year

[PetermansRedemption]

Just now, SirAndrew said:

Exactly, the optics of NFL players getting testing on a regular basis would be terrible. Many health  care facilities are overrun with the virus, yet employees can’t get tested to protect the patients. If that doesn’t change, and tests aren’t abundant, there will be major pushback. I don’t see the testing nonsense working for the NFL.  

The timeline for tests becoming readily available increases daily. By September tests, including antibody tests, will be abundant. If not then I absolutely agree with you, the NFL wouldn’t be able to do it. 

[SirAndrew]

6 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said:

The timeline for tests becoming readily available increases daily. By September tests, including antibody tests, will be abundant. If not then I absolutely agree with you, the NFL wouldn’t be able to do it. 

Many tests might be available, but unless the government foots the bill for every employer in the country, I don’t see many private organizations providing free tests for employees on a regular basis. The NFL has the cash to do it, and if they are one of the few who are able to do so, it still won’t look good. 

Edited April 15, 2020 by SirAndrew

[PetermansRedemption]

3 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

Many tests might be available, but unless the government foots the bill for every employer in the country, I don’t see many private organizations providing free tests for employees on a regular basis. The NFL has the cash to do it, and if they are one of the few who are able to do so, it still won’t look good. 

If I’m not mistaken it’s already written into law that

insurance companies have to cover the cost of the tests. 

[SirAndrew]

7 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said:

If I’m not mistaken it’s already written into law that

insurance companies have to cover the cost of the tests. 

Fair enough, I’m just thinking there won’t be enough produced to test every American as often as NFL players. I don’t see it medically necessary for insurance companies to cover that every week either (test is quite uncomfortable too, we’d need to come up with something faster and easier to administer, there’s many reports of not being swabbed correctly). However, my point is we need to protect our seniors, the disabled, cancer patients, maternity wards etc... far more than NFL football players. If people who work with those populations don’t know if they have the virus, the NFL won’t be able to go ahead with this without looking terrible. 
 

I’m not writing off the NFL season. I actually have a lot of faith in the season happening in some form. I just can’t envision a scenario where players are being tested on a regular basis. If the outbreak is still at that level, there won’t be a a season imo. 

[nucci]

11 hours ago, chongli said:

If there are no NFL and college football seasons, will there still be a combine and then a draft next April?

do you really think anyone would have these answers right now?

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, PetermansRedemption said:

If I’m not mistaken it’s already written into law that

insurance companies have to cover the cost of the tests. 

 

But you are on the hook for treatment.

[Gordio]

15 hours ago, Tesla03 said:

 

imagine comparing COVID to H1N1

 

this virus is 10x more deadlier and about 4x more contagious. no one is going to give a flying ***** about "rabid NFL fans" if we get a 2nd wave around october like everyone is predeciting. 

 

Fans need to realize the NFL season won't be starting in September this year, or won't be starting until 2021. 

 

 

How do they know that it is 10xs more deadly without sufficient testing?  Some experts think that 25-50% of the people with the virus are a symptomatic.  This means they probably never got tested.  Wouldn't that lower the death rate % significantly?

[wiseman3]

I don't know if anyone agrees with me, but am I the only one who would rather have no season at all instead of no fans in stadiums? For me the fans and overall gameday atmosphere, even when I'm watching games on TV, is what makes the games so exciting. If there aren't fans, to me it would just feel like a glorified scrimmage. I just can't imagine myself getting excited to watch games when it will be in silence. Maybe that will change in the future, but I'm not sure. 

[Greg S]

1 minute ago, wiseman3 said:

I don't know if anyone agrees with me, but am I the only one who would rather have no season at all instead of no fans in stadiums? For me the fans and overall gameday atmosphere, even when I'm watching games on TV, is what makes the games so exciting. If there aren't fans, to me it would just feel like a glorified scrimmage. I just can't imagine myself getting excited to watch games when it will be in silence. Maybe that will change in the future, but I'm not sure. 

 

I would rather have the games. For me it sucks that there is no NHL playoffs or baseball regular season (so far) but I would get over it. But if  football gets cancelled that would really hurt as its my favorite sport. For the past 20 years the Bills have mostly sucked and now when they are finally good with expectations sky high in WNY it would be disappointing to cancel the season. If they do have a season without fans I wonder the league will allow the home team to pump in some fake crowd noise to make it seem like fans are there. It would be weird to watch a game with total silence.

[MrSarcasm]

On 4/14/2020 at 7:55 AM, Don Otreply said:

Sarcasm is fun ?
 

Whaaaat??  Sarcasm is evil.

 

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[Don Otreply]

1 minute ago, MrSarcasm said:

Whaaaat??  Sarcasm is evil.

 

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Sarcasm, It’s the friendly way to tell morons that they are morons. ?

[Figster]

14 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said:

But your assuming a vaccine actually happens and is successful. Rather imminently. I believe that’s a pretty rash decision. Life is not going to be on pause until a vaccine comes out. It just isn’t going to happen. Maybe if this thing had an indiscriminate death rate. Maybe if the death rate was higher. When the survivability rate is so high for those under 50 and without pre-existing conditions it just isn’t going to happen. I can’t see unprecedented stay at home orders lasting very much longer. They certainly won’t be tolerated if there is a failed vaccine. This is going to become an acceptable risk and an after thought far sooner than people realize. 

I cannot wait to find out the true number of Covid infections. I think a lot of people are going to be shocked by just how many people have had this. It will also completely murder (pun intended) the mortality rate of Covid and make it far harder for people to justify stay at home orders any longer. 

Myself personally, with a relatively low number of major hot spots and seeing in the thousands dying daily it really doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize without proper intervention we would be in a world of hurt in my humble opinion.

[chongli]

6 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said:

Look up the statistics on how many people need a ventilator. You are mistaking that most need a ventilator. The truth is most people need nothing at all, because most are asymptomatic. If everyone needed a ventilator then the death rate would be far, far higher than what you see. Ventilators do not cure people. The vast majority of cases that go on a ventilator die. The survivability rate once on a vent is low. It is in the 20% range. Shelter in place will not be the new normal, anyone who thinks so doesn’t understand human nature or physiology. Unless, of course, the government is going to turn into a permanent nanny state and enforce a National quarantine. Something tells me Biden isn’t going to be elected with the slogan “I’ll force you to stay in your homes”. Also, your assuming a vaccine is coming quickly and effectively. I would also suggest you read up on what goes into creating and replicating a vaccine. The success rate of vaccines going from stage 1 to stage 3 trials is about 10%. To think we will have an effective vaccine within the next two years is pretty wishful thinking. It is possible that we might never have an effective vaccine. If you want to shelter in place for the next five years you are more than welcome to. I certainly won’t, and I’m sure there are many, many others who wouldn’t. 

 

I respect your opinion, but there will not be a season this fall. COVID-19 has now been demonstrated to cause damage to the liver, kidneys, heart, neurological system, eyes, and blood:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/coronavirus-destroys-lungs-but-doctors-are-finding-its-damage-in-kidneys-hearts-and-elsewhere/2020/04/14/7ff71ee0-7db1-11ea-a3ee-13e1ae0a3571_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-banner-main_virusorgans-8am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans&itid=hp_hp-banner-main_virusorgans-8am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

 

No one is leaving their house for the near future.

5 hours ago, nucci said:

do you really think anyone would have these answers right now?

 

I wanted opinions, not valid answers.

Edited April 15, 2020 by chongli

[billsfan89]

1 minute ago, chongli said:

 

I respect your opinion, but there will not be a season this fall. COVID-19 has now been demonstrated to cause damage to the liver, kidneys, heart, neurological system, eyes, and blood:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/coronavirus-destroys-lungs-but-doctors-are-finding-its-damage-in-kidneys-hearts-and-elsewhere/2020/04/14/7ff71ee0-7db1-11ea-a3ee-13e1ae0a3571_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-banner-main_virusorgans-8am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans&itid=hp_hp-banner-main_virusorgans-8am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

 

No one is leaving their house for the near future.

 

I think if there is a season it will be played with no fans in the stands at least for most of it. Things change so rapidly in this situation we have no clue what is information and what is misinformation or anecdotal. I am hoping for the best but preparing for the worst (no season in this specific context.) Right now the NFL can wait 8 weeks to see what exactly the progression of this thing is. 

[Justin C]

8 minutes ago, chongli said:

 

I respect your opinion, but there will not be a season this fall. COVID-19 has now been demonstrated to cause damage to the liver, kidneys, heart, neurological system, eyes, and blood:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/coronavirus-destroys-lungs-but-doctors-are-finding-its-damage-in-kidneys-hearts-and-elsewhere/2020/04/14/7ff71ee0-7db1-11ea-a3ee-13e1ae0a3571_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-banner-main_virusorgans-8am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans&itid=hp_hp-banner-main_virusorgans-8am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

 

No one is leaving their house for the near future.

 

I wanted opinions, not valid answers.

 

Yet multiple governors just got together to come up with a reopening plan in the months ahead. A slow gradual reopening, but its a start. And the Korean and Japanese baseball leagues have started some exhibition games.

 

But no yeah we aren't going anywhere until 2021 I guess.

[dakrider]

9 minutes ago, Justin C said:

 

Yet multiple governors just got together to come up with a reopening plan in the months ahead. A slow gradual reopening, but its a start. And the Korean and Japanese baseball leagues have started some exhibition games.

 

But no yeah we aren't going anywhere until 2021 I guess.

Speak for yourself.  I'm taking precautions but am not living an entire year sequestered in my home and that will include going to some events later this year.  
 

[Figster]

https://sports.yahoo.com/dr-anthony-fauci-says-theres-a-way-to-bring-back-sports-no-fans-quarantine-teams-144547443.html

 

Not sure If this has been posted yet.

 

I'm leaning more towards having the regular NFL football season starting on schedule IMO.

 

I think the players will be game, and ownership will be game.

 

Odds are about 60/40 for me. 

Edited April 15, 2020 by Figster

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, Justin C said:

 

Yet multiple governors just got together to come up with a reopening plan in the months ahead. A slow gradual reopening, but its a start. And the Korean and Japanese baseball leagues have started some exhibition games.

 

But no yeah we aren't going anywhere until 2021 I guess.

 

There's a lot of "what ifs" to manage, but we can't shut down until 2021. 

 

However, of all the businesses vital to restart, spectator sports are probably down the list. 

 

 

[Figster]

13 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

There's a lot of "what ifs" to manage, but we can't shut down until 2021. 

 

However, of all the businesses vital to restart, spectator sports are probably down the list. 

 

 

Key word "spectator"

[atlbillsfan1975]

51 minutes ago, chongli said:

 

I respect your opinion, but there will not be a season this fall. COVID-19 has now been demonstrated to cause damage to the liver, kidneys, heart, neurological system, eyes, and blood:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/coronavirus-destroys-lungs-but-doctors-are-finding-its-damage-in-kidneys-hearts-and-elsewhere/2020/04/14/7ff71ee0-7db1-11ea-a3ee-13e1ae0a3571_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-banner-main_virusorgans-8am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans&itid=hp_hp-banner-main_virusorgans-8am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

 

No one is leaving their house for the near future.

 

I wanted opinions, not valid answers.

Opinion verse opinion. Glad you think your opinion is fact.

 

please do all of us a favor, stay home and don’t go out. You deserve that. And we deserve the right to have a fun person in your seat at the game.