There should be a national dialogue in getting back to work

[Hedge]

Georgia:

 

 

[Q-baby!]

I thought all of the nutbars were here. Apparently they are protesting as well and they have no idea what 6 feet is! ??? Good luck losers! 

[Magox]

Atlanta opening up theatres and restaurants in a few days.

 

 

I would like to see how they do that.  If it is at full capacity then I think they are asking for troubles.

 

Hopefully it’s a modified approach.

[SoCal Deek]

2 minutes ago, Magox said:

Atlanta opening up theatres and restaurants in a few days.

 

 

I would like to see how they do that.  If it is at full capacity then I think they are asking for troubles.

 

Hopefully it’s a modified approach.

We have people afraid to pass each other on the sidewalk and yet there’s no rule against it. You actually believe most of this won’t be self regulating? Before the pandemic people would walk out of restaurants if they didn’t look clean....now they’ll do the same if they look to busy. Freedom is a wonderful thing.

[Nanker]

1 hour ago, Justice said:

 

Can you explain to me why you use that method of spelling? Raysis. Why is that?  

Sure:

 

[Magox]

13 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

We have people afraid to pass each other on the sidewalk and yet there’s no rule against it. You actually believe most of this won’t be self regulating? Before the pandemic people would walk out of restaurants if they didn’t look clean....now they’ll do the same if they look to busy. Freedom is a wonderful thing.

 

I am interested in seeing if the state will give any specific guidelines Or mandates for theatres and restaurants or they will allow them to self-regulate.    I’m hoping for guidelines.

[SoCal Deek]

5 minutes ago, Magox said:

 

I am interested in seeing if the state will give any specific guidelines Or mandates for theatres and restaurants or they will allow them to self-regulate.    I’m hoping for guidelines.

So in essence, since they would in fact just be guidelines, that means you’ll be self regulating. Everyone’s comfort level, pre-existing health issues, and risk tolerance are different. 

[Magox]

19 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

So in essence, since they would in fact just be guidelines, that means you’ll be self regulating. Everyone’s comfort level, pre-existing health issues, and risk tolerance are different. 

Pretty much

[SoCal Deek]

4 minutes ago, Magox said:

Pretty much

My nutcase 50 year old sister in law is going to be staying in her house until hell freezes over. 

[Magox]

Atlanta is going to be a fascinating test case.   Like our very own Sweden.   Atlanta is being more aggressive than Florida in their start up plans.   
 

You would think that the cases will go up, it’s only logical and I’m sure the media will be all over them and Trump for that matter if it does.   But the standard should not be if cases go up, but if the curve is flattened enough so that their hospital systems can sustain the demand in patients. 
 

[B-Man]

 

When Will Democrats Cry Uncle?

by Christopher Chantrill

Original Article

 

A couple of weeks ago I predicted correctly that President Trump would reopen the economy midway between the point where the Democrats would blame him for doing it too early and the point where the Democrats would blame him for opening the economy too late.

 

I now realized that the president has gone one better than that, he has actually threaded the needle on opening the economy. He has decreed a road-map and left it up to the governors how to drive the road back to town.

 

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[Hardhatharry]

This should have been left up to the hospitals, as soon as they are not overwhelmed you can start opening things up slowly starting with Parks and beaches.

 

Never let a politician tell you what to do though.

[Deranged Rhino]

2 minutes ago, Hardhatharry said:

This should have been left up to the hospitals, as soon as they are not overwhelmed you can start opening things up slowly starting with Parks and beaches.

 

Never let a politician tell you what to do though.

 

Gee. You mean kind of like the administration has been suggesting from day one? That it's a local to state to federal chain rather than the inverse? 

 

It's amazing! 

[B-Man]

 

What a Prolonged Shutdown Will Cost in Human Life

by Jacki Deason

 

Original Article

 

 

 

 

 

 

Governor Says Colorado Planning to Gradually Reopen Economy

Associated Press, by Staff

 

Original Article

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Economy Doesn’t Need Government ‘Help’ To Reopen

Issues & Insights, by The Editorial Board

 

Original Article

 

 

 

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[dpberr]

9 minutes ago, Hardhatharry said:

This should have been left up to the hospitals, as soon as they are not overwhelmed you can start opening things up slowly starting with Parks and beaches.

 

Never let a politician tell you what to do though.

The majority of hospitals are chomping at the bit to reopen because in most states, governors have prohibited their revenue generating elective and outpatient surgeries.  They aren't all-pro quarantine as you might first believe. 

[Buffalo_Gal]

Long thread:
 

This long thread from earlier today about what is being worked on:
 

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

Barr Says DOJ May Act Against Governors With Strict Virus Limits

The Justice Department will consider taking legal action against governors who continue to impose stringent rules for dealing with the coronavirus that infringe on constitutional rights once the crisis subsides in their states, Attorney General William Barr said.

</snip>

 

“We have to give businesses more freedom to operate in a way that’s reasonably safe,” Barr said. “To the extent that governors don’t and impinge on either civil rights or on the national commerce -- our common market that we have here -- then we’ll have to address that.”

 

</snip>

 

 

[Artful Dodger]

19 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Barr Says DOJ May Act Against Governors With Strict Virus Limits

The Justice Department will consider taking legal action against governors who continue to impose stringent rules for dealing with the coronavirus that infringe on constitutional rights once the crisis subsides in their states, Attorney General William Barr said.

</snip>

 

“We have to give businesses more freedom to operate in a way that’s reasonably safe,” Barr said. “To the extent that governors don’t and impinge on either civil rights or on the national commerce -- our common market that we have here -- then we’ll have to address that.”

 

</snip>

 

 

I'm one who believes we should open back up as soon as is possible once the risks have been mitigated, but when President Trump issued his guidelines for reopening last Friday, he suggested that reopening was "implementable on a statewide basis at governors' discretion."  And yet four days later, the attorney general is threatening governors with legal action if they impose stringent rules for dealing with the coronavirus.

 

So what's changed between last Friday and today?  No wonder governors get so frustrated with Trump. 

[shoshin]

1 hour ago, Hardhatharry said:

This should have been left up to the hospitals, as soon as they are not overwhelmed you can start opening things up slowly starting with Parks and beaches.

 

 

If your definition of "overwhelmed" is that they are caring for patients like they were before and also have capacity for Covid patients, that is a very long ways off. 

[Buffalo_Gal]

Just now, Artful Dodger said:

 

I'm one who believes we should open back up as soon as is possible once the risks have been mitigated, but when President Trump issued his guidelines for reopening last Friday, he suggested that reopening was "implementable on a statewide basis at governors' discretion."  And yet four days later, the attorney general is threatening governors with legal action if they impose stringent rules for dealing with the coronavirus.

 

So what's changed between last Friday and today?  No wonder governors get so frustrated with Trump. 

If the AG saw laws being broken, he has a duty to get involved, no? For instance, the drive-in churches in Mississippi. He saw it as a Constitutional right to worship being unfairly impinged by a Mayor.   IOW, if you are allowed to go to a grocery store and stay 6' away from other patrons, why can't you go to an open church and stay 6' away from other worshipers? If you can sit in a vehicle in a long line for a food pantry pick-up, why can't you sit in a vehicle in a church parking lot? For all I know, that is what he will be looking at going forward. But, I really have no idea what Barr plans, what they see as gubernatorial overreach, or what laws the DOJ felt were broken.