There should be a national dialogue in getting back to work

[Chef Jim]

20 minutes ago, keepthefaith said:

let me know if you'd like help crafting a list. 

Well I think it’s safe to say if it’s people from PPP your and my list will likely be very similar. 

[dhg]

2 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

So LA has mandated (I think) people wearing masks when they leave their homes.  Ok awesome!   So we're good right?  We're totally protecting ourselves and others right?  So we're all going back to work right?  Right.? Is this thing on......Bueller...Bueller...Bueller? 

 

But seriously.  If everyone is in protective masks why can't we open up and go back to work?  I don't get it. 

Insanity

[plenzmd1]

 

 

2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Say what you will about Trump -- he's a narcissist, he's a blowhard, he's truculent, et al -- but he's proven to have almost preternatural political instincts. And right now, he's lining up with that movement you're referencing for the 2020 election. The election was going to be about the economy, (capitalism vs socialism) but the black swan changed that. Now it'll be freedom vs lock down -- and the dems are eager to argue against freedom. 

 

It's amazing really when you step back and look at the whole board. 

 

These next 6 months are going to be nuts.

I dont know how to say this without sounding callous, but taken from a strictly political standpoint,It has become readily apparent to most of a large portion of conservative, never Trumpers,(me, and my ilk)  that the other  side cares not about our health and well being, but only about defeating Trump.

 

I am a gambler, and i can't see a way Trump does not win ..when you have pretty much lost me, you have lost all independants.

 

 

 

 

[snafu]

2 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

I am a gambler, and  i can't see a way Trump does not win

 

In May, 2016 Hillary was wrapping up her delegates. People were saying the same thing about her.

Lots can happen in 6 months. No, I’m not willing to bet you ?. 

[Magox]

I know I already posted this video but I can’t get enough of it 

 

Its almost surreal.   The anger is real.   I can sense it bubbling up

 

 

 

 

 

 

[plenzmd1]

11 minutes ago, snafu said:

 

In May, 2016 Hillary was wrapping up her delegates. People were saying the same thing about her.

Lots can happen in 6 months. No, I’m not willing to bet you ?. 

To be clear..the vote will not be pro Trump...but just so anti Left and anti Media...

[snafu]

5 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

To be clear..the vote will not be pro Trump...but just so anti Left and anti Media...

 

Right now, there’s no alternative.

 

[Hedge]

2 hours ago, Magox said:

Tucker Carlsons opening segment tonight was straight up ??

 

That was about as a compelling of a segment as I have seen in a while.   Talking exactly what we were just discussing @Deranged Rhino

 

Thanks for the tip. Video is queued up at the beginning of the opening monologue.

 

 

[Magox]

52 minutes ago, Hedge said:

 

Thanks for the tip. Video is queued up at the beginning of the opening monologue.

 

 

 

That bit on Whitmer was fantastic. 

[B-Man]

MASSACHUSETTS: 

 

“Of the 5,141 virus deaths in Massachusetts, 3,095 have occurred in the state’s nursing homes — more than 60%, double the percentage even in New York.”

Yet Gov. Charlie Baker, the scold and scourge of all golf carts, gun shops, nail salons and churches, none of which have recorded any fatalities, seems strangely oblivious to the ever-escalating toll in the state’s “long-term care facilities,” which are both heavily regulated and subsidized by the commonwealth.

 

Ditto, the Legislature, where no one seems to be demanding hearings into the nursing-home death tolls, which dwarf those of neighboring states.

 

Of the 5,108 deaths, only 246 were of people under the age of 60. Yet they remain locked up, more than a million have lost their jobs, and yet they are daily lectured and threatened by politicians who say next to nothing about the nursing homes where residents are actually at risk.

 

The nursing homes seem to have a lot of very powerful friends at the State House, perhaps because of the hundreds of thousands of dollars their executives funnel into the pockets of those keeping the rest of the state, where few are dying, in lockdown.

 

 

[3rdnlng]

3 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

Well I think it’s safe to say if it’s people from PPP your and my list will likely be very similar. 

Caution to all PPPers. If Chef Jim "invites you over for dinner" use caution. Extreme caution. 

[shoshin]

3 hours ago, B-Man said:

MASSACHUSETTS: 

 

“Of the 5,141 virus deaths in Massachusetts, 3,095 have occurred in the state’s nursing homes — more than 60%, double the percentage even in New York.”

Yet Gov. Charlie Baker, the scold and scourge of all golf carts, gun shops, nail salons and churches, none of which have recorded any fatalities, seems strangely oblivious to the ever-escalating toll in the state’s “long-term care facilities,” which are both heavily regulated and subsidized by the commonwealth.

 

Ditto, the Legislature, where no one seems to be demanding hearings into the nursing-home death tolls, which dwarf those of neighboring states.

 

Of the 5,108 deaths, only 246 were of people under the age of 60. Yet they remain locked up, more than a million have lost their jobs, and yet they are daily lectured and threatened by politicians who say next to nothing about the nursing homes where residents are actually at risk.

 

The nursing homes seem to have a lot of very powerful friends at the State House, perhaps because of the hundreds of thousands of dollars their executives funnel into the pockets of those keeping the rest of the state, where few are dying, in lockdown.

 

 

Less than PA. We are at 69% of all our  deaths are in nursing homes. 

[ALF]

McConnell admits he was wrong to say Obama administration failed to leave a pandemic playbook

 

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell conceded Thursday night that he was wrong to claim that the Obama administration had not left behind a plan to deal with a pandemic in the US.

 

"I was wrong. They did leave behind a plan, so I clearly made a mistake in that regard," McConnell said during an interview with Fox News' Bret Baier.

The concession comes days after he falsely accused the Obama administration of failing to leave the Trump administration "any kind of game plan" for something like the coronavirus pandemic during a Trump campaign online chat with Lara Trump, the President's daughter-in-law.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/14/politics/mitch-mcconnell-obama-coronavirus-pandemic/index.html

[ALF]

GENERAL MOTORS
GM had planned to begin its restart at assembly plants on May 18, and the order allowing manufacturing to resume in Michigan paved the way for that date to be solidified. GM had production resume at three of its factories on May 11 and will have others restart through May 26

 

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a32437841/us-automakers-returning-to-production/

 

Key GM plants in Erie and Niagara county

[fansince88]

6 hours ago, B-Man said:

MASSACHUSETTS: 

 

“Of the 5,141 virus deaths in Massachusetts, 3,095 have occurred in the state’s nursing homes — more than 60%, double the percentage even in New York.”

Yet Gov. Charlie Baker, the scold and scourge of all golf carts, gun shops, nail salons and churches, none of which have recorded any fatalities, seems strangely oblivious to the ever-escalating toll in the state’s “long-term care facilities,” which are both heavily regulated and subsidized by the commonwealth.

 

Ditto, the Legislature, where no one seems to be demanding hearings into the nursing-home death tolls, which dwarf those of neighboring states.

 

Of the 5,108 deaths, only 246 were of people under the age of 60. Yet they remain locked up, more than a million have lost their jobs, and yet they are daily lectured and threatened by politicians who say next to nothing about the nursing homes where residents are actually at risk.

 

The nursing homes seem to have a lot of very powerful friends at the State House, perhaps because of the hundreds of thousands of dollars their executives funnel into the pockets of those keeping the rest of the state, where few are dying, in lockdown.

 

 

You cant blame Coumo for that. He tried.

[ALF]

I would think healthcare workers at nursing homes are bringing the virus in due to inadequate PPE  . 

[dubs]

June 13th!?  Honestly, !@#$ Cuomo and these hacks. 
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/coronavirus-new-york-lockdown-stay-at-home-extended/

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

3 hours ago, ALF said:

McConnell admits he was wrong to say Obama administration failed to leave a pandemic playbook

 

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell conceded Thursday night that he was wrong to claim that the Obama administration had not left behind a plan to deal with a pandemic in the US.

 

"I was wrong. They did leave behind a plan, so I clearly made a mistake in that regard," McConnell said during an interview with Fox News' Bret Baier.

The concession comes days after he falsely accused the Obama administration of failing to leave the Trump administration "any kind of game plan" for something like the coronavirus pandemic during a Trump campaign online chat with Lara Trump, the President's daughter-in-law.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/14/politics/mitch-mcconnell-obama-coronavirus-pandemic/index.html

Wow, he’s basically saying Trump fumbled the ball, lol 

3 minutes ago, dubs said:

June 13th!?  Honestly, !@#$ Cuomo and these hacks. 
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/coronavirus-new-york-lockdown-stay-at-home-extended/

Shouldn’t Trump be holding his rallies now? Lead by example 

[billsfan1959]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Shouldn’t Trump be holding his rallies now?

 

Yes

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

 

 So Trump rallies are starting again ? Nope 

 

do as he says, not as he does 

2 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

Yes

He isn’t though, lol. He’s not stupid, he just hopes you are