Gugny Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, T&C said: Who would some of the other best be? Just curious as to peoples tastes. Scott Weiland Layne Staley Freddie Mercury (the best) Robert Plant Mick Jagger Roger Daltry Anthony Keidis (just off the top of my head) Edited February 27, 2020 by Gugny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) Ozzy Jim Morrison Bruce Dickinson John Fogerty Henry Rollins Lemmy Elvis Presley Johnny Rotten Janis Joplin Edited February 27, 2020 by row_33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: Just making a point how most rock singers wouldn’t be considered technically great by people in vocally centered genres like broadway and opera. I probably shouldn’t have mentioned such an unhip genre ? nobody in pop/rock is matching Melchior or Fischer-Dieskau Edited February 28, 2020 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, row_33 said: nobody in pop/rock is matching Melchior or Fischer-Dieskau Absolutely, that’s why in rock/pop music I always choose showmanship and songwriting ability over vocal ability. I rarely care how “good” a rock/pop vocalist is, because that’s low on the list of reasons I love the genre. I appreciate great singers (Ann Wilson is great) , but lesser vocals don’t take away from the listening experience imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: Absolutely, that’s why in rock/pop music I always choose showmanship and songwriting ability over vocal ability. I rarely care how “good” a rock/pop vocalist is, because that’s low on the list of reasons I love the genre. I appreciate great singers (Ann Wilson is great) , but lesser vocals don’t take away from the listening experience imo. sometimes i like comic books and sometimes i like reading Shakespeare James King, to me, was the best I saw live, Smith's last entry was added since the last time I saw this youtube video, sounds enhanced or overdubbed for his last stretch there... Edited February 28, 2020 by row_33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 41 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: Absolutely, that’s why in rock/pop music I always choose showmanship and songwriting ability over vocal ability. I rarely care how “good” a rock/pop vocalist is, because that’s low on the list of reasons I love the genre. I appreciate great singers (Ann Wilson is great) , but lesser vocals don’t take away from the listening experience imo. For me, lesser voices can also add to the listening experience, although I do have my limits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Just now, SinceThe70s said: For me, lesser voices can also add to the listening experience, although I do have my limits. we know what we like part of growing up in the 60s and 70s was being inflicted with a ton of horrible top 40 songs, that obviously were only played due to bribery, helped us build tolerance and appreciation for what we really like 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: For me, lesser voices can also add to the listening experience, although I do have my limits. I never thought of it that way, but’s it’s true. Rock music was built on the blues, it’s all about soul and human emotion. The imperfections are what made classic rock music connect so deeply. Other genres often sound too mechanical and perfect to my ears. Much of today’s pop/rock music has also become emotionless with the ability of technology to make everything flawless. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: I never thought of it that way, but’s it’s true. Rock music was built on the blues, it’s all about soul and human emotion. The imperfections are what made classic rock music connect so deeply. Other genres often sound too mechanical and perfect to my ears. Much of today’s pop/rock music has also become emotionless with the ability of technology to make everything flawless. my top pop voices are Lennon, Garcia and Dylan. their content helps as well, and usual world outlook 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 21 minutes ago, row_33 said: my top pop voices are Lennon, Garcia and Dylan. their content helps as well, and usual world outlook Dylan? DYLAN?! I'd replace him with Morrison. And just about anyone else, for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Dylan? DYLAN?! I'd replace him with Morrison. And just about anyone else, for that matter. it's an acquired taste, a strange and long and varying career for which one is forgiven for hating Dylan for many albums nobody has been around this long and this widely stretched who else gave us a two-record set basically telling all fans to FOAD? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 7 hours ago, row_33 said: okay Hagar fans, what compares to this in full context? as in they seem to have a great time goofing around as well as high-level performance this is just the first of 2 dozen, by the way.... there is no possible way to play these tunes too loud Too true. 'One break - coming up!!!' The whole exchange is cheesy as hell but somehow David Lee made it work in a big way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 23 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: Too true. 'One break - coming up!!!' The whole exchange is cheesy as hell but somehow David Lee made it work in a big way. They were America’s Favourite Party Band at the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Just now, row_33 said: They were America’s Favourite Party Band at the time And well deserved. I had the good fortune of seeing them on the Fair Warning tour. Didn't know it at the time, but they were at the crest IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Their first album through 1984 took me from senior public school to high school graduation, a good soundtrack band for a lot of fun times 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Good reading on the royalties bickering after David left the band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, row_33 said: Their first album through 1984 took me from senior public school to high school graduation, a good soundtrack band for a lot of fun times By 1984 they were losing relevance for me. But Hot For Teacher and Drop Dead Legs kept me interested. "I don't feel tardy" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 I think this is the same argument as with AC/DC. Saying Sammy is better than DLR is like saying Brian Johnson is than Bon Scott. While Sammy and Brian are great in their own right, DLR is and always will be known as the front man for VH, while Bon Scott is simply one of the greatest front men who ever lived for any type of music in the history of music. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) Facts and revisionisms... AC/DC with Bon only got going in North America with the Highway to Hell album, DDDDC debuted here, 5 years after release in Oz, only after his death and Back in Black was a proven top seller, a bizarre and macabre move for which we are grateful now And they chopped up DD for the US album compared to the 5-year-old imports a few friends had gone out of their way to purchase just reading that Jailbreak and it’s video only got play over here starting in 1984 A postmortem cracking of the US market Edited February 28, 2020 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 8 hours ago, row_33 said: it's an acquired taste, a strange and long and varying career for which one is forgiven for hating Dylan for many albums nobody has been around this long and this widely stretched who else gave us a two-record set basically telling all fans to FOAD? I feel the same way about Neil Young's voice. I love it and could listen to it all day (acoustic stuff). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Gugny said: I feel the same way about Neil Young's voice. I love it and could listen to it all day (acoustic stuff). Neil didn’t jump from finger-pointing songs to Electric to a decade of cowboy songs, some of it deliberately a cruel joke on fans to born again stuff to whatever he wants the last 30 years... Edited February 28, 2020 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 21 minutes ago, row_33 said: Neil didn’t jump from finger-pointing songs to Electric to a decade of cowboy songs, some of it deliberately a cruel joke on fans to born again stuff to whatever he wants the last 30 years... I was strictly referring to Neil Young's voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Gugny said: I was strictly referring to Neil Young's voice. I was steeped in it as Harvest and After the Gold Rush were played constantly in the home Content and message has to play some part, a few of us are more into music than because it has a good beat and you can dance to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 minute ago, row_33 said: I was steeped in it as Harvest and After the Gold Rush were played constantly in the home Content and message has to play some part, a few of us are more into music than because it has a good beat and you can dance to it Those are my two favorite albums. After the Gold Rush is one of my summertime staples. I'll listen to the whole album back-to-back on many evenings on the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gugny said: Those are my two favorite albums. After the Gold Rush is one of my summertime staples. I'll listen to the whole album back-to-back on many evenings on the deck. The Decade compilation has been my choice the last 20 years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 On 2/20/2020 at 6:33 PM, Royale with Cheese said: Who else is with me? I'm with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 On 2/27/2020 at 9:51 PM, row_33 said: it's an acquired taste, a strange and long and varying career for which one is forgiven for hating Dylan for many albums nobody has been around this long and this widely stretched who else gave us a two-record set basically telling all fans to FOAD? Absolutely no one could touch Dylan's timing + phrasing in his singing at his best. On 2/28/2020 at 10:32 AM, row_33 said: I was steeped in it as Harvest and After the Gold Rush were played constantly in the home Content and message has to play some part, a few of us are more into music than because it has a good beat and you can dance to it So many favs, but after all these years later, my #1 Neil album is On The Beach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 On 2/20/2020 at 6:33 PM, Royale with Cheese said: Who else is with me? Whoa.......those are fightin words!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 20 hours ago, Rico said: So many favs, but after all these years later, my #1 Neil album is On The Beach. I haven't taken this whole album in. I will be, soon. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 who else could carry a half-joking version of this, a sequel to badass times of D.O.A. (already posted on this thread)???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gugny said: I haven't taken this whole album in. I will be, soon. Thanks! i won't enforce the release where he showed up at Maple Leaf Gardens for a set with just Neil and some funk-box electronic gizmo..... On 2/27/2020 at 9:46 PM, Doc said: Dylan? DYLAN?! I'd replace him with Morrison. And just about anyone else, for that matter. Yeah Dylan, someone half my age asked where to begin listening to him, I didn't have an answer offhand, it might be held against me. Morrison was a great voice, unfortunately didn't have a creative writing partner and self-destructed. and Burton Cummings had a better voice than Jim, especially for his filler acid trip songs imitating The Doors, such as.... And his soul left his body and went down down down To a place we laughingly refer to as hell But none of us will ever go there because we're all far too groovy Edited March 1, 2020 by row_33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 or even this top 40 hit, it was the first time for something recording dual lead guitar or whatever, his best vocal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rico Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 2 hours ago, row_33 said: i won't enforce the release where he showed up at Maple Leaf Gardens for a set with just Neil and some funk-box electronic gizmo..... Yeah Dylan, someone half my age asked where to begin listening to him, I didn't have an answer offhand, it might be held against me. Morrison was a great voice, unfortunately didn't have a creative writing partner and self-destructed. and Burton Cummings had a better voice than Jim, especially for his filler acid trip songs imitating The Doors, such as.... And his soul left his body and went down down down To a place we laughingly refer to as hell But none of us will ever go there because we're all far too groovy I would've liked to see what would've happened if Iggy didn't turn down the gig with the Doors as Morrison's replacement, at least live. Light years better as a front man. 4 hours ago, Gugny said: I haven't taken this whole album in. I will be, soon. Thanks! Side 2 (starting with OTB) is my fav from anyone for very late, late night chill tunes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 2 hours ago, row_33 said: i won't enforce the release where he showed up at Maple Leaf Gardens for a set with just Neil and some funk-box electronic gizmo..... Yeah Dylan, someone half my age asked where to begin listening to him, I didn't have an answer offhand, it might be held against me. Morrison was a great voice, unfortunately didn't have a creative writing partner and self-destructed. and Burton Cummings had a better voice than Jim, especially for his filler acid trip songs imitating The Doors, such as.... And his soul left his body and went down down down To a place we laughingly refer to as hell But none of us will ever go there because we're all far too groovy Like the Doors... The Guess Who... The Grassroots... all different animals though. Jim apparently had a shelf life, Burton lived on. Steppenwolf hardly gets a mention these days. Monster for instance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 My last binging was during limewire days, enjoyed all of Steppenwolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 On 2/29/2020 at 5:59 PM, Rico said: Absolutely no one could touch Dylan's timing + phrasing in his singing at his best. So many favs, but after all these years later, my #1 Neil album is On The Beach. Took it for a ride tonight. Loved it. Thanks for the tip, man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Asked a friend about the best frontman, immediate reply was the man in front for 5 #1 hits, practically in a row, all of them with “live” appearance video which you will recall immediately if you were around at the time,.. Harry Wayne Casey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) red rocker was better solo imo diamond dave was the only lead singer for me when it came to van halen. I really did not listen to them when sammy came aboard and definitely didn't when they had cherone fronting the band. Edited March 19, 2020 by DaBillsFanSince1973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: red rocker was better solo imo diamond dave was the only lead singer for me when it came to van halen. I really did not listen to them when sammy came aboard and definitely didn't when they had cherone fronting the band. I agree. I don’t think I’ve ever heard a Van Cherone song. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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