The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[Taraka]

54 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

And they will tell him it is completely absurd.   Meanwhile, you have citizens who are not trained in science and medicine listening to this thinking there may be some validity because the president said so.  It is irresponsible, dangerous, and stupid.

PREACH! But don't think she will listen or acquiesce in her devotion to dr don the con and whatever drivel he decides to spew. He could sell her swamp land in the desert and she'd buy it. And she did, And does. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

I am hoping you are not Natasha.
(Although I always loved that name. My father wanted to name me Natasha. Sadly, my mother won that argument.)


 

Aww come on!   You are acknowledging your love for the name of every Russian  spy in every movie ever, and you still maintain you're not in the CIA??? In Hansel and Gretel, this would be a bread crumb!

 

WE'RE NOT STUPID!

[Westside]

3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

What's not reality? That Trump paid a sex provider hush money? 

 

You really thinks that's fantasy, right? 

 

How many people did Hillary murder? 

Let it go. Concentrate on folding the sheets.

[SoCal Deek]

7 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

I hope the answer will be zero.  Can you not agree though that throwing out ideas like this do nothing to help and are irresponsible?

sure....if it helps you

Go Bills!

[oldmanfan]

3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

I would assume that brainstorming sessions are not necessarily uncommon in the scientific world. Also, accidental discoveries do happen. After all we ended up with a blue diamond shaped blood pressure pill that became one of the most popular drugs ever for other reasons. Swallowing bleach certainly doesn't seem like the thing to do but there are other ways like you stated above, and even something as simple as possibly breathing it in. I know I've breathed in bleach just by using it for cleaning. I don't remember any side affects and there may very well be some benefits. 

From the CDC:

 

Immediate signs and symptoms of chlorine exposure

• During or immediately after exposure to dangerous concentrations of chlorine, the following signs and symptoms may develop:
  • Blurred vision
  • Burning pain, redness, and blisters on the skin if exposed to gas. Skin injuries similar to frostbite can occur if it is exposed to liquid chlorine
  • Burning sensation in the nose, throat, and eyes
  • Coughing
  • Chest tightness
  • Difficulty breathing or shortness of breath. Thesemay appear immediately if high concentrations of chlorine gas are inhaled, or they may be delayed if low concentrations of chlorine gas are inhaled.
  • Fluid in the lungs (pulmonary edema) that may be delayed for a few hours
  • Nausea and vomiting
  • Watery eyes
  • Wheezing

I say again, science and medicine matter.  Science and medicine work.

[billsfan1959]

3 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

I hope I'm wrong that some would actually ingest disinfectant and such, but in a crisis like this it is incumbent on the president to measure his words.  And throwing half baked ideas out there with no scientific validity is not what we need right now. 

 

He asked an uninformed question in an inarticulate way that ended up coming off as a stupid question. No argument at all. However, it was the media that turned it into a "suggestion" or "idea" that you could or should literally inject bleach to kill the virus. 

[Tiberius]

4 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I wasn't crazy about the Cohen prosecution.  I personally believe that if you allowed limitless powers of surveillance and investigation into all the creatures in Washington, 75-90% end up in cells.  Manafort should be released as well. 

 

All I know is you're my contact if I end up in the slammer and need the hooch.  You owe me that much. 

Basically you just want Trump and his buddies to be above the law 

[Westside]

2 minutes ago, ~Kostabi~ said:

PREACH! But don't think she will listen or acquiesce in her devotion to dr don the con and whatever drivel he decides to spew. He could sell her swamp land in the desert and she'd buy it. And she did, And does. 

Congratulations, you just made the meathead list.

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, westside2 said:

Let it go. Concentrate on folding the sheets.

Is it real, though? 

[Taraka]

On 4/24/2020 at 8:16 AM, SoCal Deek said:

I'm sure you're right.  We never want to give 'false hope' to the people.  That is unless we base our entire political campaign on "Hope and Change" like the last circus clown did.  Right, Old Man?

FALSE being the operative word. More like impossible but lets throw it out there anyway 

Edited June 27, 2020 by ~Kostabi~

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

3 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

 

We have a serious bleach addition problem in my family, too.  Developed last night.  Empty bleach bottles strewn about this morning.  I found my cousin curled up in a corner wrapped in a Keep America Great flag with two empty bleach bottles next to him.  This, everyone, is the status quo that should be preserved. 

If your cousin lives in the northeast, it sounds like he got into a particularly nasty mix called Procol Harum.  It's comes out of Thailand, through Mexico and is distributed out of North Philly by the Corn Pop Kids.   

[Deranged Rhino]

52 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

If any regular poster here made such stupid comments as Trumps disinfecting ideas from yesterday’s press conference, you folks would never let that person live it down.

 

If it were me, there would be at least a dozen posts about cannabis rotting my brain.  Go ahead though and keep making excuses for him. If anyone here doubted the Trump cult accusations, these defenses should erase those doubts

 

Of course -- Bob is, again, wrong.

 

 

1) Trump was asking the doctor, not telling people to inject anything. 

2) He never said drink bleach, or inject bleach. 

 

But when you're Bob, and you're a slave to the media's word (despite them lying to you for years and years) -- you get it all wrong. I mean, it not as if there aren't entire treatment remedies based around injecting poison into the body to treat it (chemo/radiation), and UV treatment is an actual thing in medicine for certain conditions as well. Note Cooper's contortion as the doctor he called on to dunk on Trump admits it was a good question: 

 

 

But dishonest people -- or those like Gene who haven't learned their lesson about the media yet -- move right from being embarrassed over the "sun" story, to now this. Why? Because TDS prevents one from thinking logically. 

[Taraka]

On 4/24/2020 at 9:05 AM, westside2 said:

Congratulations, you just made the meathead list.

I love how you have adopted sections list idea not an original thought in your brain 

Edited June 27, 2020 by ~Kostabi~

[Westside]

1 minute ago, ~Kostabi~ said:

FALSE being the operative word. More like impossible but lets throw it out there anyway TCK #drdon

So much RAGE!!!!!!

[TakeYouToTasker]

19 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Yes you do.  But there are some who hang on his every word.  Which is why what was said yesterday was completely irresponsible and dangerous.  He specifically said we should look into injecting disinfectants.  

 

I gather you're a fan of the president.  Then maybe you should tell him words matter, and that he needs to choose them more carefully.

I am not a “fan” of Presidents, Parties, or any politician at all for that matter.

 

I abhor “the great man” theory of history.

 

I support actions or policies that align with maximizing human freedom, and generally believe that the state is immoral and illegitimate.

 

I am simply able to separate my personal philosophies from the realities of the political landscape, and am able to be objective.

[oldmanfan]

Just now, billsfan1959 said:

 

He asked an uninformed question in an inarticulate way that ended up coming off as a stupid question. No argument at all. However, it was the media that turned it into a "suggestion" or "idea" that you could or should literally inject bleach to kill the virus. 

It was both inarticulate and dumb.  And then the media followed up.  Because that is the media's job.  Somebody had to make sure it was clarified that people should not construe those comments to mean that folks should go out and use disinfectants (bleach being an example).  

[Westside]

Just now, ~Kostabi~ said:

I love how you have adopted sections list idea not an original thought in your brain CHECK

Checkmate B word. Stay angry, it humors me.

[billsfan1959]

5 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

What's not reality? That Trump paid a sex provider hush money? 

 

You really thinks that's fantasy, right? 

 

How many people did Hillary murder? 

 

I think you live in a world where you interpret external reality to fit your own psychological needs. We all do it to some degreee; however, people like you do it to such an extreme that external and internal reality eventually become blurred...

[Deranged Rhino]

So much TDS in the past five pages. People never learn. 

 

And it's hilarious.  

[oldmanfan]

Just now, TakeYouToTasker said:

I am not a “fan” of Presidents, Parties, or any politician at all for that matter.

 

I abhor “the great man” theory of history.

 

I support actions or policies that align with maximizing human freedom, and generally believe that the state is immoral and illegitimate.

 

I am simply able to separate my personal philosophies from the realities of the political landscape, and am able to be objective.

I feel the same.  Which is why I say the comments yesterday were irresponsible.