Buffalo_Gal Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 The WHO investigation will be 60-90 days. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...with ALL lottery proceeds going for EDUCATION, how dare you???.............. Lottery proceeds are not allowed to be used for ongoing operational costs of a school district. In other words, they cannot be used for salaries, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: Some states places can't survive without keeping the sale of lottery tickets going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 53 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Trump up Mnuchin reached an agreement with the major airlines for a payroll support program. Instructing his administration to halt funding to WHO! Sounds like they are gonna look into WHO for full accountability. He's hammering WHO on how they responded to the coronavirus and listened to China. WHO was not timely, accurate, or transparent. 47 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: WHO failed in the basic duty to tell the truth. They failed to investigate Wuhan sources that conflicted with China. WHO parroted and endorsed that there was not human-to-human transfer. WHO did not get scientific samples from China. The world received all sorts of false info from WHO. The doctors that disappeared in China is very concerning. Had the WHO done its job to get (something) into China, it could have saved thousands of lives, and prevented economic damage. They took China at face value. (Note: all this is paraphrased, he's reading off notes and so going fast) Like any nefarious corporation that get caught cheating, WHO will resort to a name and acronym change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Trump: will not pressure any state to reopen. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Trump: will not pressure any state to reopen. What a tyrant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Since I chimed in on Trump's poor "performance" yesterday, it's only fair to point out that he was very good in this regard today. Always slays the one dude who kept talking. Not a fan. Didn't vote for. Won't vote for him. But that was Trump being Trump. Figured he'd bounce back from yesterday's dud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Trump: will not pressure any state to reopen. The man has incredible patience! The press are all a bunch of useless gossip hounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 hour ago, ALF said: Of course they are not the same , just a statement of fact A statement of fact without context? You obviously were comparing the two. For what purpose? Again, which virus would you choose to have if you had to have one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Need another reason to be suspicious of China? For yesterday, Singapore reported 4x as many Wuhan virus infections in the second wave than all of China. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 5 hours ago, GG said: Speaking of the Singaporean myth, especially in applying it to the US .... Had a chat with a colleague there this morning, and she gave a quick recap. The city-state had stellar precautions with a hard & fast response early on. Those efforts worked initially, and the city wasn't totally clamped down. However, a second wave just hit, largely from foreigners and the city is on full lock down now, when it wasn't for the first wave. New case growth is double digits after they thought it was contained. Now the border is shut completely, everyone is required to wear a mask, no group gatherings are allowed and the extreme contact tracking is in force. She said that life was fairly normal there until a week ago. Sounds more like a lesson than a myth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Quote "China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus," Trump tweeted on January 24, "The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!" Speaking on Fox News on January 30, Trump said China was "working very hard" to stop the coronavirus outbreak. "And we are in great shape," he said. "China is not in great shape right now, unfortunately. But they're working very hard. We'll see what happens. But we're working very closely with China and other countries." https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/25/politics/trump-coronavirus-china/index.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, TPS said: Sounds more like a lesson than a myth. Of course it's a lesson. The myth is that Singapore conquered the virus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 25 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: The man has incredible patience! The press are all a bunch of useless gossip hounds. Of course they are, and with Trump it's a lethal mixture because neither can effectively knock each other out. Trump had the perfect opportunity to put the final nail into China and WHO, he missed wildly and hit his thumb. So now they have an opening that he is blaming WHO for his failures. When they were badgering him on why he was praising China in January and February for their openness, the perfect response would have been to throw it back at China and WHO, by saying that "We believed they were being honest with us and that's what set much of our early policy response. Instead, we found out they lied and now we have 10s of thousands people who died unnecessarily, because they didn't tell us the truth until it was too late." Now imagine how powerful that response would have been from a POTUS. The press would have no choice but to cover what China and WHO did in January & February. Instead he pivoted to the great trade deal he made with China. WTF? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 6 hours ago, Troll Toll said: Wall Street was getting hit hard in the middle of February. You can read the Trump Economy thread beginning the first week of March to see the timeline... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, TPS said: You can read the Trump Economy thread beginning the first week of March to see the timeline... I’m in the market, I was there, it started falling fast around February 20th. Furthermore, the reason it started to fall then was because it wasn’t until the middle of February that China looked to be approaching large numbers of infections. The market was concerned with the interruption to supply chains in China. Edited April 15, 2020 by Troll Toll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Michigan: Gov. Gretchen Whitmer facing lawsuit over stay at home order "We need the courts to step in and say this is not okay.” A lawsuit was filed against Gov. Gretchen Whitmer on Tuesday over her stay at home order, which has kept Michiganders at home except for completing tasks necessary to sustain life. The orders have been put into place to help curb the spread of COVID-19. The lawsuit was filed in the U.S. District Court in Detroit by David C. Helm of Helm Law; it names five plaintiffs who are seeking damages, but primarily want to get the order lifted or revised. The main argument is that the fundamental rights of each of those involved were violated by the executive order. </snip> This legal action against Whitmer makes it clear that it is not contending the decision to issue the executive orders or if they were within her authority to issue. "This suit accepts as fact that Governor Whitmer took action for a public purpose," the lawsuit says. But it argues that the plaintiffs' constitutional rights were violated by mandating them to stay home. The primary argument being made by Helm is that the executive order are illegally taking people's property without compensation, which violates the fifth amendment takings clause. The lawsuit says that because Martinko was not allowed to access his company property under the order and because Contender's Tree and Lawn Specialists was not allowed to operate, his rights were infringed upon. </snip> While only a couple weeks remain on the existing order, Helm said it's unlikely they'll be able to get it overturned before it expires. But he said the main goal in filing the lawsuit was to ensure that moving forward, this doesn't lay the groundwork for any governor to take sweeping actions. He argues the state should create a targeted approach to rein in the virus, saying "they can't use a sledge hammer to kill an ant." A jury trial was requested for this case. </snip> 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 There are a lot of reopenXX state Facebook groups that have popped up this past week. People lasted longer than I thought they would in lock down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) 2400+ dead today. Really big jump. the highest before today was just over 2000. I hope this is the peak for this wave. I doubt it’s the peak for us as a country because I don’t see that we have the will to do what needs to be done to keep the economy rolling and manage this at the same time. Trying to remain optimistic but the will for people to do what’s needed seems lacking. People want their cell phones free of apps. People want to walk the beach. People want to go to church in groups. If nothing gives on this, we all give. Edited April 15, 2020 by shoshin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 52 minutes ago, Troll Toll said: I’m in the market, I was there, it started falling fast around February 20th. Furthermore, the reason it started to fall then was because it wasn’t until the middle of February that China looked to be approaching large numbers of infections. The market was concerned with the interruption to supply chains in China. Yep. Dropped 4000 points that last week of February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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