LABILLBACKER Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said: Allen wasn’t the problem yesterday. He should’ve never thrown the ball more than 30 times, not with the way Singletary was running. Yeldon shouldve been active as well, those two would’ve combined would provided a much needed boost in the short passing game, knowing the Texans were going to try and pressure Allen into mistakes. This team could’ve won the east with better in game decision making throughout the year, not just yesterday, as well as actually dressing the best players come game day (Duke and Yeldon almost all season). I love McDermott’s methods of preparing these guys, keeping them healthy, and getting them to buy into the “team” concept, hard to do with young millionaires. I have no problems with the way the defense is called 99.9% of the time (3rd and 18!!!!), but his in game management (of the clock, playing not to lose, refusal to get away from slow plodding veteran backs - Tolbert, Ivory, Gore), and just the complete lack of consistent production on the offensive side of the ball in his entire tenure with Buffalo is concerning. I like to think he still has room to grow as a coach, but I was definitely taken by surprise in his post game comments where he seemingly deflected much of the blame. I am starting to wonder if we aren’t hitting the McDermott ceiling. He’ll have atleast until the end of Josh’s rookie deal to prove he can make this team a legit contender. Its concerning because he has no clue what to do with an offense. He has no clue who to run his offense. He knows this pathetic 19 pt/game offense needs the D to carry the team all year. Sean better wake up and commit 75% of his draft and Free agency on Offense. Other than that 1 year with Chan, I can't even remember the last time our offense was any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Seriously, it helps a lot when you're watching other games to occasionally stop and ask yourself "What would people say if Josh Allen did that?" You really start to notice that other QBs occasionally throw into double coverage, get interceptions dropped, take sacks, fumble the ball while scrambling / getting sacked, etc. Allen just gets a disproportionate amount of criticism on all of those plays because that's the media narrative. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Cocaine is a helluva drug..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Its concerning because he has no clue what to do with an offense. He has no clue who to run his offense. He knows this pathetic 19 pt/game offense needs the D to carry the team all year. Sean better wake up and commit 75% of his draft and Free agency on Offense. Other than that 1 year with Chan, I can't even remember the last time our offense was any good? Beane knows perfectly well that we need more help on offensive. He tried to sign Antonio Brown, remember. Last year was pretty slim pickings for WRs, and we did about as good as we could have by getting Brown and Beasley. This year we should have better options both in FA and definitely in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) I'm tougher on JA the most part but I thought he played very well. Fans of other teams seeing him for the first time thought so as well generally. Edited January 5, 2020 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Every non Bills fan recognizes that this is a really good roster with good coaching and a liability at QB. 90% of this board sees the exact opposite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: After watching other playoff teams it's really astounding the playmakers they have. We're just not good enough yet to beat good playoff teams regularly. Those playmakers make a difference at that level. Because Josh is kinda forced to play with one hand tied behind his back. Love Smoke but he's not a WR1. Love Devin but he's not a RB1. None of our TE's are anywhere close to TE1. Like Ford but he's not a RT. That's alot to deal with for a young learning qb. And on top of all this, Josh has area's to clean up too (ball security, deep throws, etc). Wishful thinking to expect Dabust to come off our hands. Sean and Beane have to have a stellar offseason..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Maybe so. But Cousins won today. With a PERFECT 43 yard pass in OT on the road to win it. That was a thing of beauty I hope to see some of next year.....in Bills uniforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: I'm tougher on JA the most part but I thought he played very well. Fans of other teams seeing him for the first time thought so as well generally. https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=327756&page=70 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Billl said: https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=327756&page=70 Haha what are they referring to? While funny you can comb through any forum at the exact time and place a quarterback does something stupid for hot takes.. Edited January 5, 2020 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Hey man, this place is all about foolish denial with regard to Allen. He's by far the most important person in this organization right now, and he's not very good. Pretending he isn't the problem isn't going to improve the situation. Asking your young QB to pass 46 times, run 9 times and go out for a pass 1 time(Was our only TD) while calling for only 21 hand offs in his first playoff game on the road no less while leading or tied for almost the entire game is a recipe for success, yes? 56 plays he was directly involved vs 21 hand offs, is down right criminal given how the first 2 2/3 quarters went. Where were the play-action passes that help young QBs out or max protection when they started to get pressure on him every play or screens where were they? Daboll's first 15 scripted plays and the player's execution were very good after that Daboll called an garbage game. 372 total yards out of our 425. 11 for 21 on 3rd downs with several coming on passes to very tight windows on the run. More drives(FGs included) ended because of bad play calling & offensive line penalties that put us behind the chains. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 50 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He didn't throw any picks pretty much sums up how most people grade QB. Allen made more than a few amazing plays not many QBs in NFL history could make. The pass to Singletary on 3rd down was unreal. That said he threw some really late passes that were in the hands of the defense. Doesn't hurt the QB rating much but those should count when grading his play. I mean, all QBs throw passes that are dropped INTs. It happens just about every game. Watson threw at least one to Neil the same way. Neil dropped it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 51 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: I hope some people will watch these games and realize every QB makes bad plays. Even the best of the best like Brees, Mahomes and Rodgers. When you watch an entire game like you watch a Bills game you see that it’s a regular occurrence for QB’s to make a bad pass or get sacked. The other important thing to note is about offenses in the playoffs consistently scoring lower than their season averages. This is what playoff football ( usually ) is like. It doesn’t mean “ fire daboll” ... sheesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 53 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Allen was most certainly part of them problem yesterday. Saying he wasn’t is foolish denial. Yeah, but Coach McDermott shouldn't have aired that criticism out about QB. Should've, if he didn't, went to QB during game and expressed himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 45 minutes ago, peterpan said: Allen outplayed Watson for sure. I won't watch any other NFL game. For the same reason I don't watch WWF I might watch the SB but I’ve been making so much money working doubles on the SB that it’s going to be a hard sell. I think this league is rigged, if it’s true that it’s a game of inches then the officials can definitely control the outcome of games. I’ve never returned Bills gear for Christmas but yesterday I returned over 600$ worth of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Sometimes, as a coach, you have to pull a Bill Cowher and grab the player by the collar and express your displeasure. Then after the game tell media it was handled internally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, Billl said: Every non Bills fan recognizes that this is a really good roster with good coaching and a liability at QB. 90% of this board sees the exact opposite. Obvious formerly banned troll is obvious. I wanted to put the laughing face on your post but that would have given you a +1 so I will put it here instead... ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 hour ago, row_33 said: Maybe he can outplay everyone else next weekend Well his stats won't be any worse than Brees and Brady next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, 34-78-83 said: The other important thing to note is about offenses in the playoffs consistently scoring lower than their season averages. This is what playoff football ( usually ) is like. It doesn’t mean “ fire daboll” ... sheesh What we score doesn't mean firing Duhball, but asking your young QB on the road in his first playoff game to pass 46 times, run 9 times and go out and catch a TD pass while only handing the ball off 21 times in a game we were up or tied for almost the entire game is. No play-action passes, only one or two screens and no max protection when they started getting to Josh are all valid reasons to fire him. He just doesn't learn from games like this and is his and our own worst enemy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, Augie said: With a PERFECT 43 yard pass in OT on the road to win it. That was a thing of beauty I hope to see some of next year.....in Bills uniforms. Yeah see the thing is that Cousins probably made a bunch of mistakes too. In fact he did. The difference is that when he threw "a PERFECT 43 yard pass".... his receiver came down with the catch and came down with it in bounds. When Josh made "a PERFECT X yard pass" Duke dropped it and Brown with two yards to the sideline couldn't get his feet in bounds when he didn't have to leave his feet at all. People blame QB QB QB. Half the time the QB did enough but the players around him didn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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