John Adams Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, GG said: Attacking a military base and killing a US citizen and then ordering a mob to attack, burn and occupy a US embassy isn't enough? I don't think it was morally unjustified but the administration has pointed to one thing that is not true (9-11 linkage) and another that would require proof to be justified (to prevent imminent attack). They are making a mash of justifying an assassination and it's important they do this well and properly, especially since we've got the potential to be dragged more deeply into a big mess. Edited January 8, 2020 by John Adams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 Ballistic missiles! I hope they shot down many of them, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Well....DT is pathological.....and it would be good if he weren’t.....but here we are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 minute ago, TH3 said: Well....DT is pathological.....and it would be good if he weren’t.....but here we are You've gotten every major story wrong the past three years. Go back to your cage and let the adults handle this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: You've gotten every major story wrong the past three years. Go back to your cage and let the adults handle this. Yes; the adults who take Trump’s lies at face value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: You've gotten every major story wrong the past three years. Go back to your cage and let the adults handle this. Julie Kelly? I mean she does have bleach blond hair....a communication degree from East Illinois....and is a food writer....guess that makes her qualified in your eyes....LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, Tiberius said: No, look at Asad in Syria and Venezuela, these governments don’t get toppled easily There's extremely minimal crude oil in Syria and nothing else. So little incentive for a major power to go into there. The US has plenty of oil and natural gas at the moment and is the only logical end user for Venezuelan crude oil given the distance to other major users versus the Middle East and Asia. Brazil or Argentina might have interest in going into Venezuela but their militaries are almost non existent in terms of achieving foreign objectives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Ballistic missiles! I hope they shot down many of them, at least. They are not ballistic by definition, settle down kids.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 Sen ***** just said that we don’t have missile defenses at the bases that were attacked. 2 minutes ago, Cinga said: They are not ballistic by definition, settle down kids.... Lol, ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, TH3 said: Julie Kelly? I mean she does have bleach blond hair....a communication degree from East Illinois....and is a food writer....guess that makes her qualified in your eyes....LOL Quick. Name a source you use that didn't lie to your face for three years about Trump Russia. Just one. Go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, TH3 said: Julie Kelly? I mean she does have bleach blond hair....a communication degree from East Illinois....and is a food writer....guess that makes her qualified in your eyes....LOL a (typically) inept and dishonest reply from TH3. She has more credentials than you mentioned certainly much more than you and now back to the “WAR”. ? . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, dubs said: Yet according the the NYT Trump might institute the draft because we killed this revered Iranian “official”. That's crazy. 47 minutes ago, Cinga said: They are not ballistic by definition, settle down kids.... You...don't actually know what "ballistic" means, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Just now, DC Tom said: That's crazy. He said “according to the NYT” ? . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, John Adams said: I don't think it was morally unjustified but the administration has pointed to one thing that is not true (9-11 linkage) and another that would require proof to be justified (to prevent imminent attack). They are making a mash of justifying an assassination and it's important they do this well and properly, especially since we've got the potential to be dragged more deeply into a big mess. There is linkage to 9/11 in that Iran allowed Al Queda to cross their border when the US was hunting them down. There were reports that Zawahiri was detained in Tehran, but I think that was proven false. In any event, Iran let Queda and the 9/11 planners go to Pakistan, even though they are "sworn" enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 minute ago, B-Man said: He said “according to the NYT” ? . Yes, I know. Redundancy can be pretty redundant sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Ballistic missiles! I hope they shot down many of them, at least. Has there been any confirmation that they took any out at all before they hit? I certainly hope so too. Oh, and keep warm in your bum hut Tibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, DC Tom said: That's crazy. You...don't actually know what "ballistic" means, do you? WTF are you talking about? Are you calling a simple rocket or cruise missile ballistic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Just now, GG said: There is linkage to 9/11 in that Iran allowed Al Queda to cross their border when the US was hunting them down. There were reports that Zawahiri was detained in Tehran, but I think that was proven false. In any event, Iran let Queda and the 9/11 planners go to Pakistan, even though they are "sworn" enemies. Iran cooperated closely with US intelligence after 9/11, in no small part because Iran was already at war with Afghanistan, as the Taliban had a nasty habit of killing Iranian diplomats, which kind-of torqued them off. Maybe they allowed transit before 9/11 - doubtful - but if they did, they've assuaged their guilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Iran cooperated closely with US intelligence after 9/11, in no small part because Iran was already at war with Afghanistan, as the Taliban had a nasty habit of killing Iranian diplomats, which kind-of torqued them off. Maybe they allowed transit before 9/11 - doubtful - but if they did, they've assuaged their guilt. According to this guy, there were some Queda in Iran post 9/11. There was probably some passage through Iran pre-9/11, especially after the Africa embassy bombings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Cinga said: WTF are you talking about? Are you calling a simple rocket or cruise missile ballistic? A "simple rocket" is the definition of "ballistic." A ballistic missile is a rocket that follows a ballistic path determined by its initial impulse. Technically, that's anything from an Estes rocket to a Saturn V...but realistically, that's any substantial rocket with minimal guidance, from a FROG-3 with a six mile range to an LGM-118 Minuteman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, DC Tom said: A "simple rocket" is the definition of "ballistic." A ballistic missile is a rocket that follows a ballistic path determined by its initial impulse. Technically, that's anything from an Estes rocket to a Saturn V...but realistically, that's any substantial rocket with minimal guidance, from a FROG-3 with a six mile range to an LGM-118 Minuteman. And of course you realize your definition also applies to an RPG or mortar right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Cinga said: And of course you realize your definition also applies to an RPG or mortar right? Yep, those are technically ballistic projectiles. So's a rock thrown from a trebuchet. That's why I made the distinction between "technically" and "practically." The bases were hit with either cruise missiles (powered flight), or ballistic missiles (free ballistic trajectory). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 37 minutes ago, GG said: There is linkage to 9/11 in that Iran allowed Al Queda to cross their border when the US was hunting them down. There were reports that Zawahiri was detained in Tehran, but I think that was proven false. In any event, Iran let Queda and the 9/11 planners go to Pakistan, even though they are "sworn" enemies. You think that "link" justifies the asassination? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, John Adams said: You think that "link" justifies the asassination? Broken. Brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Broken. Brain. Comrade. Fudge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 You forgot to switch back to the other account. ? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Your move limp dick Donnie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, John Adams said: You think that "link" justifies the asassination? Personally, I think the embassy attack, the tanker attacks, and the constant low-level conflict he was fostering in Sunni Iraq justified his assassination. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: Personally, I think the embassy attack, the tanker attacks, and the constant low-level conflict he was fostering in Sunni Iraq justified his assassination. Me too. So why add 9-11? I will give a pass on the imminent threat for now because we don't have info on that. 6 minutes ago, Q-baby! said: Your move limp dick Donnie! There's a time and a place, kind of, for your douchey behavior. This is the place. but Now is not the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, John Adams said: Me too. So why add 9-11? I will give a pass on the imminent threat for now because we don't have info on that. There's a time and a place, kind of, for your douchey behavior. This is the place. but Now is not the time. Sure it is. Don’t like it? Move along! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 34 minutes ago, John Adams said: You think that "link" justifies the asassination? I’ve listed the items that justified the assassination, along with countless other reasons over the decades. I was just pointing out that there was a connection between Iran & the plotters, and Pence wasn’t totally off base. Misguided, but not a complete fabrication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 31 minutes ago, Q-baby! said: Sure it is. Don’t like it? Move along! Sorry that you lost your job but nobody bought your story about making baby pacifiers with the 3D printer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Sorry that you lost your job but nobody bought your story about making baby pacifiers with the 3D printer. Put down the crack pipe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Q-baby! said: Put down the crack pipe! Sorry that the truth hurts. Your former boss remarked "Baby what? Baby Big Foot?" before he realized your real intent. Next time just go to the adult novelty store instead of risking your job. Park bench with the alcoholic hobo tonight again (for you)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 29 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Sorry that the truth hurts. Your former boss remarked "Baby what? Baby Big Foot?" before he realized your real intent. Next time just go to the adult novelty store instead of risking your job. Park bench with the alcoholic hobo tonight again (for you)? No, gonna bang your ###### mom again! No, you can’t smell my fingers again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Q-baby! said: No, gonna bang your ###### mom again! No, you can’t smell my fingers again! So the hobo has you call him "mom" now? Once you sober up you will realize that you were never with a woman. As to smelling that is strictly your imagination at work again. I would not come within a country mile of you. Anyways, you are a sorry piece of humanity. Edited January 8, 2020 by RochesterRob 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 minute ago, RochesterRob said: So the hobo has you call him "mom" now? As to smelling that is strictly your imagination at work again. I would not come within a country mile of you. Anyways, you are a sorry piece of humanity. Thanks tard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 Thousands of more troops headed to Middle East Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 WW3 didn’t happen (again) - but we saw breathless propaganda on MSNBC pushing Iranian disinfo, and on Fox pushing neocon disinfo. Proving (again) how much of a joke the media is and anyone who still gives them oxygen. The media is not your friend. Or a reputable source. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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